I got these FPS-numbers, what should I upgrade?

Guest · Mar 7, 2014

Hi people

I’m wondering… I’ve got this little rig:

Motherboard: GIGABYTE GA-78LMT-S2 AM3+ AMD 760G Micro ATX AMD Motherboard
CPU: AMD FX-8350 2.81 GHz - Eight-Core
RAM: 8GB Kingston ValueRAM. 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM. 1333 MHz.
Grafikkort: XFX Core Edition FX-787A-CNFC Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB 256-bit G DDR5 PCI Express 3.
550 Watt XFX Core Edition PRO550W

I get these numbers:

Far Cry 3: 1080P on Very high = 48 FPS
Metro: Last Light: 1080P on Very high = 46 FPS

But also…

Arma 3 = 30 (single player) and 18 (multiplayer)
DayZ = 25-29 (far more difficult to determine)

What should I upgrade … and which product should I get, if I want ca. 50 FPS with these last two? Thanks in advance

rgd1101 · Mar 7, 2014

new motherboard, and an i5 4670k

RushNReady · Mar 7, 2014

to be honest you doing pretty well , i would upgrade the video card if anything i got the 770 geforce gtx. to be honest the dayz is my worst too i don't think you should worry about getting the fps high on that until its finished as you could be wasting money my fps with all the settings on max on DayZ hovers from any were from 30 to 60 Gysnc enabled that is with a 770. by the sounds of it your bottle neck is your graphics card i never looked into radeon so have no idea how it compares to my gpu. The 770 is around £230 im guessing you will have to change you mobo though and chipset to use the geforce gtx 770 am i right ?

770 vs 7870

http://www.hwcompare.com/14637/geforce-gtx-770-vs-radeon-hd-7870/

Any way if i was you i would upgrade your GPU that will help allot

Guest · Mar 7, 2014

Thanks guys. Yeah, CPU or GPU – go figure

Thinking about it: Logic would perhaps say more CPU – since Arma-games are CPU-dependent, right? On the other hand: Would a 4 core-Intel CPU really be more effective than a 8-core AMD? For real?

And what about my current FPS - doesn't it imply that GPU is good enough? Or is that kind of reasoning just wrong? Giggles.

And btw. My DayZ isn’t even on max, but rather average all the way round. Oh dear

Guest · Mar 7, 2014

But the again - woah - it does seem stronger. You really think my CPU is strong enough? I'm just looking for the best cost-benefit upgrade

RushNReady :

Guest · Mar 7, 2014

Well, it would seem that - either way - I have to start with that CPU. Any advice for the motherboard? Thanks

rgd1101 :

Thanatognomonic · Mar 7, 2014

I have to ask, why is your 8350 running at 2.81 GHz? It should be running 4Ghz at stock.. You should get an after-market cooler so you can get 4.0 if not higher.
I'd also then suggest upgrading your GPU to something like a GTX 770.

Guest · Mar 7, 2014

Really? Where can I change that? BIOS?

Thanatognomonic :

Thanatognomonic · Mar 7, 2014

Sadly, your motherboard has a 760g chipset. This chipset isn't generally recommended with FX series CPUs.
If you want to get the most out of your CPU I would suggest upgrading your motherboard to one with a 990FX chipset. Do you have a specific upgrade budget in mind? I may be able to pick out the best motherboard for you.

Guest · Mar 7, 2014

Well, this is slowly becoming a new machine altogether! Mmm… Because if I want the GF GTX 770, then I have to get a new MB (and CPU) – right? Meaning this might be a plan:

* ASRock Z87 Extreme6 LGA 1150 Intel Z87 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
‎159,99 $
* Intel Core i5-4670K Haswell 3.4GHz LGA 1150 84W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics BX80646I54670K
‎239,99 $

And THEN I can get:

* GIGABYTE GV-N770OC-2GD GeForce GTX 770 2GB 256-Bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 HDCP Ready WindForce 3X 450W Video Card
329,99 $

Begining to become a new entitity

On the other hand, I would be able to do this month after month. How much more effective would this rig be, than my current? And is there nothing I can use still?

Thanatognomonic :

Guest · Mar 7, 2014

And btw. There is only a 40$ gap between my current CPU and the other that I think about. That much of a difference?

Thanatognomonic :

Thanatognomonic · Mar 7, 2014

You won't need to upgrade your CPU, the FX-8350 is perfectly fine for you, all you need is a good 990FX motherboard and a good aftermarket cooler (CM 212+ for example) and your computer will perform perfectly well.

Guest · Mar 7, 2014

Thanks a lot. Final question: Any MB-suggestions? And would I be able to get a 770 GF in the future?

Thanatognomonic :

Thanatognomonic · Mar 7, 2014

I'd recommend this : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128514 and yes, you'll be able to upgrade to a 770 further down the line.

bgi123 · Mar 7, 2014

I'll say try to get an atfer market cooler and see if you can overclock your CPU some first, if at all possible. Other-wise invest in a new graphic card.

Thanatognomonic · Mar 7, 2014

bgi123 :

He'd risk his components over-clocking on his current motherboard. The VRMs on his motherboard have no proper cooling, they'd overheat and break down, causing his system to just not work.
An after-market cooler won't really help with over-clocking if he doesn't have a proper VRM cooler.

RushNReady · Mar 7, 2014

use THIS web site called

http://pcpartpicker.com

if you put in what you already got then go from there as it makes sure the parts are all compatible that Is how i built this rig as it was my first i did not have a clue

Guest · Mar 23, 2014

Jesus, you were right: http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/answers/id-2078428/fps-difference-amd-intel.html

Thanks a bunch! You are the man! :bounce:

Thanatognomonic :

HomeSkillenSlice · Mar 24, 2014

The FPS you are getting in your games is perfectly normal.

The reason why you are getting an abysmal frame rate in DayZ and Arma is because they are one of the most unoptimized games ever. People have made loads of posts talking about how their i7 4770k sucks so hard and how they cant max out the view distance despite the fact that they've spent like 1.5-2k on the entire build. Your build looks fine to me. Its just the games.

The engines are either incredibly complex, or the game was programmed by baboons lmfao.

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