Will cryptocurrency mining kill my GPU even if i have it running cool?
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tomosh22
March 7, 2014 1:51:56 PM
I am thinking about getting into the crypo-currency scene but theres one thing I'm concerned about. Given that I'm 13, if my GPU dies then replacing it isnt going to be an easy matter given that it cost's £250. If i ran my mining software 24/7, and ran all my case fans at 100%, and bought a water cooling loop with a GPU heatsink, would my GPU's life be shorter than if i wasnt mining?
EDIT: I forgot to mention that my GPU is an ASUS DCU2 770 overclocked to 1250mhz core clock and 7500mhz VRAM clock
EDIT: I forgot to mention that my GPU is an ASUS DCU2 770 overclocked to 1250mhz core clock and 7500mhz VRAM clock
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vrumor
March 7, 2014 1:59:03 PM
tomosh22
March 7, 2014 2:00:56 PM
ahnilated
March 7, 2014 2:01:58 PM
tomosh22
March 7, 2014 2:05:33 PM
USAFRet said:
Have you discussed this with 'The Parent Who Pays The Electric Bill'?Yes I have but it's hardly going to make a difference, my PC is on 7am-10pm and on sleep mode the rest of the time my brother has his laptop charging 24/7 because his battery has almost died, my dad has his iMac that he never puts to sleep (no matter how much I try to convince him) and theres a million phones and handheld devices and consoles and other things charging. Also our wifi is BS so i have to leave my PC on overnight a lot.
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tomosh22 said:
USAFRet said:
Have you discussed this with 'The Parent Who Pays The Electric Bill'?Yes I have but it's hardly going to make a difference, my PC is on 7am-10pm and on sleep mode the rest of the time my brother has his laptop charging 24/7 because his battery has almost died, my dad has his iMac that he never puts to sleep (no matter how much I try to convince him) and theres a million phones and handheld devices and consoles and other things charging. Also our wifi is BS so i have to leave my PC on overnight a lot.
Running a medium grade PC 24/7 at 100% is easily an extra £30/month.
Charging, or a PC at idle uses little. 100% uses a lot.
Putting on the 'dad hat'...
As 'the person who pays the bill'...I'd need to see a cost/benefit analysis of how much 'coin' you expect to generate every month, and how it will cover the increased electric bill.
And you will pay me for that increased cost. Starting at month one. I might even consider going 60/40.
But you have to do the analysis first. Show me this is actually profitable.
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tomosh22
March 7, 2014 2:18:18 PM
USAFRet said:
tomosh22 said:
USAFRet said:
Have you discussed this with 'The Parent Who Pays The Electric Bill'?Yes I have but it's hardly going to make a difference, my PC is on 7am-10pm and on sleep mode the rest of the time my brother has his laptop charging 24/7 because his battery has almost died, my dad has his iMac that he never puts to sleep (no matter how much I try to convince him) and theres a million phones and handheld devices and consoles and other things charging. Also our wifi is BS so i have to leave my PC on overnight a lot.
Running a medium grade PC 24/7 at 100% is easily an extra £30/month.
Charging, or a PC at idle uses little. 100% uses a lot.
Putting on the 'dad hat'...
As 'the person who pays the bill'...I'd need to see a cost/benefit analysis of how much 'coin' you expect to generate every month, and how it will cover the increased electric bill.
And you will pay me for that increased cost. Starting at month one. I might even consider going 60/40.
But you have to do the analysis first. Show me this is actually profitable.
£30/month, wow, i didnt think it would be that much extra. Anyway, when i asked them about it i just explained that i would have my PC running at 100% load overnight, and they said it was fine.
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smeezekitty
March 7, 2014 2:24:48 PM
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tomosh22
March 7, 2014 2:27:39 PM
smeezekitty said:
You said it was overclocked. Is it overvolted?If it is overvolted then it can shorten the lifespan regardless of temps.
Generally it won't affect it that much otherwise if the temps are good. Although running the fans at high speed will wear the bearings
faster and cause dust to buildup quicker.
the max voltage is stock but the min voltage is 862mv (stock is 900)
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tomosh22 said:
£30/month, wow, i didnt think it would be that much extra. Anyway, when i asked them about it i just explained that i would have my PC running at 100% load overnight, and they said it was fine.
Yes, easily that much. That's why the analysis first.
Assuming a £30/month elec bill increase:
If you generate £20/month in coin...you have to pay me £30/month to cover the elec bill. that is a losing proposition.
If you generate £35/month....you have to pay me £33 every month. I (dad) get £3 'profit', you get £2.
Simple comparison:
How much power does your PC used while mining 24/7? Measured wattage, not pulled out of your butt.
How much does electricity cost per Kw/hour?
How much coin can you generate with your existing equipment? Independent test results, please.
What is the current and expected coin/£ exchange rate?
oops...not quite so simple, is it?
Show me the money. Otherwise, I might as well just throw £30 in the trash every month.
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smeezekitty
March 7, 2014 2:44:02 PM
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If you generate £35/month....you have to pay me £33 every month. I (dad) get £3 'profit', you get £2.
Based on??
If he generated 35 gbp / month, then he should pay back 30 and keep the 5
Your arrangement is unfair
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How much does electricity cost per Kw/hour?
That is a big factor. For example here where electricity is $0.09 USD/KW/HR an extra 400w 24/7 should
"only" be about $26 or 15 gbp
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tomosh22
March 7, 2014 2:49:33 PM
USAFRet said:
tomosh22 said:
£30/month, wow, i didnt think it would be that much extra. Anyway, when i asked them about it i just explained that i would have my PC running at 100% load overnight, and they said it was fine.
Yes, easily that much. That's why the analysis first.
Assuming a £30/month elec bill increase:
If you generate £20/month in coin...you have to pay me £30/month to cover the elec bill. that is a losing proposition.
If you generate £35/month....you have to pay me £33 every month. I (dad) get £3 'profit', you get £2.
Simple comparison:
How much power does your PC used while mining 24/7? Measured wattage, not pulled out of your butt.
How much does electricity cost per Kw/hour?
How much coin can you generate with your existing equipment? Independent test results, please.
What is the current and expected coin/£ exchange rate?
oops...not quite so simple, is it?
Show me the money. Otherwise, I might as well just throw £30 in the trash every month.
OK then, I'll forget it, last time I checked the exchange rate was ~£350/1 BTC. I haven't tested it but with nvidia I don't expect to be making 0.5 BTC a month. Again I haven't tested, but according to online calcs, on 100% load, my PC uses about 500w. As you know, I don't pay the bill so I don't know the price/kWh.
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smeezekitty
March 7, 2014 2:52:42 PM
tomosh22 said:
USAFRet said:
tomosh22 said:
£30/month, wow, i didnt think it would be that much extra. Anyway, when i asked them about it i just explained that i would have my PC running at 100% load overnight, and they said it was fine.
Yes, easily that much. That's why the analysis first.
Assuming a £30/month elec bill increase:
If you generate £20/month in coin...you have to pay me £30/month to cover the elec bill. that is a losing proposition.
If you generate £35/month....you have to pay me £33 every month. I (dad) get £3 'profit', you get £2.
Simple comparison:
How much power does your PC used while mining 24/7? Measured wattage, not pulled out of your butt.
How much does electricity cost per Kw/hour?
How much coin can you generate with your existing equipment? Independent test results, please.
What is the current and expected coin/£ exchange rate?
oops...not quite so simple, is it?
Show me the money. Otherwise, I might as well just throw £30 in the trash every month.
OK then, I'll forget it, last time I checked the exchange rate was ~£350/1 BTC. I haven't tested it but with nvidia I don't expect to be making 0.5 BTC a month. Again I haven't tested, but according to online calcs, on 100% load, my PC uses about 500w. As you know, I don't pay the bill so I don't know the price/kWh.
You should still find out the price/kWh just for information atleast.
Might be able to research it online.
You might have better luck mining litecoin. Mining BTC with a GPU is a waste of time and money
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Based on??If he generated 35 gbp / month, then he should pay back 30 and keep the 5
Your arrangement is unfair
Based on the 60/40 agreement I mentioned above. Dad is taking all the risk.
So for using dads resources, he should pay nothing? That is the 'interest rate'. By allowing him to use my resources, I'm going to take a cut. We can quibble over the percentage, but life ain't free.
Will the coin exchange rate stay stable?
Will the 13 year old not screw things up and accidentally delete the coin wallet?
Will whatever coin he is generating fail massively next month? See Mt.gox.
Show me (dad) actual money.
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tomosh22 said:
OK then, I'll forget it, last time I checked the exchange rate was ~£350/1 BTC. I haven't tested it but with nvidia I don't expect to be making 0.5 BTC a month. Again I haven't tested, but according to online calcs, on 100% load, my PC uses about 500w. As you know, I don't pay the bill so I don't know the price/kWh.
I'm not saying 'forget it'. I am saying....'analyze first'.
Is this actually profitable? If yes...go for it. If no...then don't.
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smeezekitty
March 7, 2014 3:09:15 PM
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Based on the 60/40 agreement I mentioned above. Dad is taking all the risk.
So for using dads resources, he should pay nothing? That is the 'interest rate'. By allowing him to use my resources, I'm going to take a cut. We can quibble over the percentage, but life ain't free.
60/40 is extremely unreasonable.
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I'm not saying 'forget it'. I am saying....'analyze first'.
Is this actually profitable? If yes...go for it. If no...then don't.
That is true.
I strongly disagree with your philosophy. But I will not comment on it any further.
Every time I get involved with a crypto related thread it turns heated (I wonder why)
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azzazel_99
March 7, 2014 3:14:28 PM
This seems to have gotten off topic. The op question was about mining killing his gpu not if anyone thought he should be paying electric bills right? The answer to original question would be generally when you overclock and especially when you crank voltages up it will shorten the life of the card. By how much? Noone really knows. Some people get the typical life out of a gpu with it overclocked and others have their gpu die quickly from overclocking. The lower you can keep your voltage the better but also the cooler you keep your gpu the better also. Good luck with that mining stuff. I dont plan to get into it myself lol. Besides any arrangement his parents and him come too with it using extra electricity is between them. My electricity is 6.5 cents a k/w for 1 year then after that it goes back too 8 or 9 cents for the life of the service so I could get great rates with mining lol.
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azzazel_99
March 8, 2014 3:11:51 AM
What ever the cost rose IF i was going to charge my son i would just charge him the difference and nothing more. I see no added risk or anything else to charge him for. Again will the gpu be destroyed by mining? Answer is no it shouldn't be but with the added hefty overclock that will shorten the lifespan, maybe by a few days maybe by a few months or years who knows.
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