I want to build a $900 Gaming PC

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As the title says, I'd like to build a gaming pc with a $900 budget. I've never built a computer before, so I'm hoping someone here can help me out in choosing the right components for my needs.

I want to be able to play all the most current games on high settings, I'll be playing games like BF4, COD Ghosts, Elder Scrolls, fallout games, Watch Dogs, GTA...Also I draw a lot in Photoshop with a wacom tablet, and like playing around with Blender (a 3d modeling program), so I need a computer that's going to be able to handle those types of applications well.

I'm thinking that I'll just wait until my next paycheck to get the monitor, OS, keyboard and mouse, so lets not include those in the budget.

One last thing, I need this pc to have wifi, or else I'd have to run an ethernet cable under the house which I really don't want to do. If I left out any information you might need, let me know and I will get back to you asap. I'd like to purchase all the components in the next few days.
 
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I'd recommend something like this: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/36aGU

I'd definitely go Intel over AMD for gaming. I'd invest more in the CPU for an initial build because you can always swap out the video card easily for a better one later down the road, but changing CPU is more of a pain and so you don't wanna be bottlenecked by it for a least a few years.

I'm still using my i7 2600K from 2011 in my current gaming rig and it's still an insanely awesome CPU by today's standards, especially since I have it running cool on air at 4.6GHz with a Hyper 212 Evo, something that's not always possible with a 4770K.

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A couple of questions:

What will your monitor resolution be? 1080p? higher?

What form factor are you looking at for your case and motherboard? You want a standard motherboard with a mid tower? or itx with a smaller case?
 

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I'll be using 1080p most likely. As for form factor, I'd like to go with the standard ATX with a mid tower. I've got a pretty decent sized desk so size isn't an issue.

In response to Paul...Would an AMD processor be a good choice? Ive been doing research the past couple weeks and most people suggest Intel.
 

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4440 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($174.29 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H81M-HD3 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($47.49 @ Newegg)
Memory: GeIL EVO POTENZA 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($57.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($329.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($44.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($39.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($16.98 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($84.99 @ NCIX US)
Monitor: Asus VX228H 60Hz 21.5" Monitor ($139.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1001.69
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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what about this build(it is a mini tower but strong)
 

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I'd recommend something like this: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/36aGU

I'd definitely go Intel over AMD for gaming. I'd invest more in the CPU for an initial build because you can always swap out the video card easily for a better one later down the road, but changing CPU is more of a pain and so you don't wanna be bottlenecked by it for a least a few years.

I'm still using my i7 2600K from 2011 in my current gaming rig and it's still an insanely awesome CPU by today's standards, especially since I have it running cool on air at 4.6GHz with a Hyper 212 Evo, something that's not always possible with a 4770K.
 
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I'm liking that build, if I go to micro center, I can get the 4770k for only $30 more. Do you think it would be worth getting or is the 4670k just as good? And if I were to get the 4770k, would I need to change any of the other components in that build you posted?

Also one quick question, if I were to try and overclock it to like 4.4GHz, would it be ok with normal air fans? I've been hearing a lot about water cooling stuff and it just seems soooo sketchy to me, putting water inside a computer. Lol

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I just did a built through that website, it went over my budget pretty fast, but if I wait a week or two I may have enough. I didn't choose the power supply or cooling stuff yet because I'm not sure which to choose, I don't want to cheap out and have my system overheat. Here's the parts I selected.

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/36zAv
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/36zAv/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/36zAv/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($269.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Extreme6/ac ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($199.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Gaming Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($154.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: PNY GeForce GTX 770 4GB Video Card ($361.20 @ Amazon)
Case: Cooler Master Storm Scout 2 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($102.69 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1178.84
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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Would the Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler, and Corsair RM 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply be sufficient for this build? And I'm not sure if the GTX 770 is much greater than the 760, maybe I should stick with 760?
 

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The Core i7 CPU is great but if the only thing you're doing is gaming and stuff like web-browsing, light video-editing and small projects for school or something then an i5 will be perfectly fine and you'd be able to put the money saved to better use. If you wish to overclock then you could go with the i5-3570K, which is practically the best CPU for gaming on the market today for the money. While the Core i7 would be better, almost every game does not and likely will not utilise multithreading for the next few years, which is what the Core i7's are good at. The Core i7s also cost a significant amount more.

There is also not much reason to have 16GB of RAM as games don't even use 8GB yet - if gaming and stuff I mentioned above is what you're going to do then a pair of dual-channel 4x2GB (8GB) RAM would be great. After you do this and change the motherboard (ASRock Z77 Extreme4 is a great MOBO though you can save more with the ASRock Z77 Extreme4-m, which removes one PCI-E expansion slot and the amount of USB ports) then you should be close to the $900 mark, or closer anyway.
 

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Definitely go for the 4770K at that price, it's worth the extra $30 to get the hyperthreading. Since the PS4 and XB1 have eight core CPUs, games that come out in the next 5 years will most likely be optimized to run on 8 cores so there's a good chance that having the hyperthreading (which shows up as having 8 cores in Windows) might be an advantage for gaming down the road. Having the hyperthreading can also help you if you run some apps or downloads in the background while playing, that way you won't lose much framerate if any.

For the motherboard I'd really go for the Extreme4 over the Extreme6 for you since the main thing the Extreme6 has is an extra ethernet port which is useless to you since you want to use Wi-Fi. They both have a 12 power phase design and all solid gold caps and very similar features and layout, so why not just save yourself a little money? Also if you want good sound for your PC for very cheap I recommend getting a Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS used off of eBay. You can get one for like $15-20 and it will give you some awesome sound. That thing is 24-bit, 192kHz/108dB, THX/Dolby/DTS Certified. Most of the entry level sounds cards of today are complete garbage and you'd have to shell out like 150 bucks to get something as good. The onboard sound on motherboards is mostly just a codec chip so not only does it sound like crap but it also needs to use some CPU power to produce the sound, which can cost you a few frames per second in games. If you want to do that keep in mind that you'll need to have a motherboard that still has regular PCI slots (the extreme4 and 6 both do, but some boards don't).

For your RAM, 8GB is more than enough especially if your not using an SSD. With an SSD I'd recommend 16GB just so you can turn off virtual memory in Windows as the constant writing it requires can damage SSDs over time. If you do go with 16GB, get 2x 8GB kit, not a 4x 4GB one. The less memory slots you use the better it is for system stability. Personally I only use 1.5V RAM because that's the recommended value set by intel for its CPUs and chipsets and according to them higher voltages can damage the CPU. I know a lot of people still use 1.65V RAM despite this but to me any gains aren't really worth the risk.

I think the GTX 760, especially a factory overclocked one like the ASUS, will be enough to start you out. You'll be able to get 60fps on high settings at 1080p with it on most games. Then maybe when the Maxwell cards come out you can sell your 760 on ebay or something and upgrade to like a GTX 870. I usually upgrade my GPU every 12-18 months and ebay the old one and only end up paying like $100-150 for the upgrade.

Whatever you do , don't skimp on the Power Supply. If you equate a PC to a human being, the power supply would be equivalent to the human heart that pumps the lifeblood (in this case electricity) throughout the whole system. You wouldn't want a cheap heart right? Cheap PSUs cause a lot of instability and crashes particularly when gaming. They will often fail and have a much higher chance of damaging components when failing. That Corsair 650W 80+ Gold Certified for $89 is an insane deal,and it's modular too which means less of a mess in your case. 650W will be plenty even if you overclock, And even when Maxwell cards come out they will probably require even less power due to their increased efficiency and rumored fabrication process downsize to 20nm. Whatever you get make sure it's at the very least 80+ Bronze certified and that it has a minimum of 30Amps on the 12V rail. I just looked at the Corsair one again on Newegg to see how many amps it had on the 12V rail (it has 54) and noticed that it was sold out which doesn't surprise me because that is an insane deal.

For your case if you wanna spend 100 bucks then let me recommend the CoolerMaster HAF 922. The HAF series (which stands for High Air Flow) is great because it mostly makes use of 200mm fans which can move tons of air at much slower speeds and are therefore much quieter. My gaming rig is in a HAF X 942 and I love that case, it keeps everything super cool and I can barely hear it. If you look at the reviews on newegg, all the HAF cases have a 5/5 egg average rating, that should say something. The HAF 922 has front and top 200mm fans and also has a spot for an additional one on the side panel you can add later if you want. Whatever case you end up getting, try to get one with a top exhaust fan; heat rises and the quickest way to get that hot air out of the case is through a top exhaust fan.

About overclocking to 4.4GHz: with a good air cooler like the Hyper 212 Evo and some Arctic Silver 5 thermal paste and a case with good airflow it should be possible, but it's still somewhat luck of the draw, each individual CPU is different and some overclock more than others even though they're supposed to be the same.

Sorry for writing a novel, I just wanna help you out as much as I can since it's your first build. Hope at least some of it was helpful to you. Best of luck to you on your build, let me know how it turns out.

 

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I definitely appreciate all the help. I just got back from Frys, and I ended up getting the i5 3570k, PNY Geforce GTX 760 2GB OC, and I got the Raidmax Blaze Blue. I was going to get the 4x2GB ram, but they didn't have any in stock, but now that I read your post I'm glad they didn't lol.
I was planning on getting like a 120gb ssd to put my windows 8 on, and than have a 1tb hard drive for all my other stuff. So I should go with 16 gb ram then? Those 3 things came to 600 bucks (50 bucks tax @_@). So now I've got 361 dollars to my name. By this upcoming Friday though I'll definitely have enough for everything else I need.

The ASRock Z77 Extreme4 is only $130 so I think I'm going to go with that. Unfortunately Frys didn't have any ASRock motherboards so I'm going to get it online probably on Tuesday. If you guys think I should go with the Z87 rather than the Z77 let me know, I'm going to look them up right now and compare, but honestly I'm not very knowledgeable in any of this lol.

So is liquid cooling pretty much required when overclocking? I'm just so nervous about using something like that since it's my first build and all. Plus I read some horrifying stories online about people coming home to find that the hoses burst and ruined all their components. Is that something that only happens with cheap cooling setups? I'm scared haha.
 

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You have to go with a Z77 motherboard for the 3570K, the Z87 uses a different socket and is incompatible.

I have always been able to overclock without using water cooling. The Hyper 212 Evo and arctic silver 5 got my 2600K to 4.6GHz and it never goes above 63C under full load. A lot of the new motherboards have an easy overclock function in the BIOS where you just enable it and the motherboard gives you a good automatic overclock.
 

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Update:
Hey guys, after reading reviews, I returned the raidmax case and got the CMStorm Scout 2 Ghost White case. This case supports up to 9 fans, and since my mobo only has 5 fan headers, my friend told me I need a fan splitter and he sent me a link to this one.
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/14666/ele-992/3-Pin_Power_Distribution_PCB_4x_3-pin_4x_2-pin_Block_MMT-PCB-3-4342.html
Do you guys think that's the right thing I need? Just want to make sure before I get it.


And here's my updated list. It's been slow the past couple weeks but I'm getting there. I haven't listed the fans yet because I need to make sure I get the right ones to match whatever fan splitter I end up getting.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (Purchased For $229.99)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Micro Center)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard (Purchased For $128.49)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (Purchased For $86.99)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (Purchased For $64.99)
Video Card: PNY GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card (Purchased For $259.99)
Case: Cooler Master CM Storm Scout 2 Advanced ATX Mid Tower Case (Purchased For $105.00)
Power Supply: Antec TruePower Classic 550W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply (Purchased For $84.99)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: Acer H236HLbid 60Hz 23.0" Monitor (Purchased For $185.00)
Total: $1265.41
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-03-31 22:03 EDT-0400)