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March 9, 2014 12:10:00 PM

Hello, I was wondering if this build: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/36NEh (my 1st PC Build) would be a good computer for the next Five to Seven (5-7) years.
I am a complete noob at this, so any suggestions would be great.
Few Main Questions:
(1) Do I need to purchase case fans? (GTX 770 4GB?)
(2) Is this even a good build, or shall I scrap it, and startover?
(3)Any idea how to dual boot OS? - I'm going to download Windows 8.1 and Steam OS. I plan on running either a hdmi cable to my HDTV, or do it wireless, for Steam OS. Steam OS would be great to have when I want to sit back with a controller and play random games.
(4) Do I need 1 Hard drive for each OS? (2 in total) Windows 8.1 is clearly not Linux, when Steam OS is based off linux, which I would think they have different download/upload, etc. formats?
(5) Would I be able to record and stream with no problems?
(6) Should I consider upgrading myself to an i7 later on?
(7) The graphic card supports 4 monitors, would 2 be a no brainer?
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As well, I know SSD is insanely better, but its something I don't need at the moment, and I rather add addition of a 120 gb SSD later on.
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What shall I be using this machine for?
Mainly, obiviously, gaming, web browsing, school projects.
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Would this PC be able to run the following games maxed out? with no lag? :
Arma .3
Civil V
Minecraft (NOOB Much? =P)
Skyrim
Far Cry 3
BF4
Cyrsis 3
Thief
Rust
Etc.?
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Thanks for reading through all that. I know its really nooby questions, but I need all the help I can get. :)  If you have any answer please say! Thanks again.

~David
March 9, 2014 12:16:15 PM

I would recommend going for an atx moo rather than the micro atx, and maybe get a PSU from Seasonic, Corsair or XFX. Other than that the build looks great. Will you be just gaming or rendering/video editing aswell? If yo play games like BF4 or heavily modded games you could maybe look at a 280x rather than 770 for 3gb vram and matle.
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March 9, 2014 12:16:30 PM

yes easily, the only thing an ssd will change is shortening the loading times
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March 9, 2014 12:24:57 PM

UncreativeName said:
I would recommend going for an atx moo rather than the micro atx, and maybe get a PSU from Seasonic, Corsair or XFX. Other than that the build looks great. Will you be just gaming or rendering/video editing aswell? If yo play games like BF4 or heavily modded games you could maybe look at a 280x rather than 770 for 3gb vram and matle.


Thanks for the quick reply, but I shall be doing minor video editing/rendering, so I choose to stick with the i5. Otherwise, I was thinking to get a PSU from Corsair, as I know they are great. Sorry, but what is atx moo? I am noobish. xD I shall be doing heavy modding, and heavy games, so I shall take a look into the 280x but I have a feeling I will stick with the 770 4gb.
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March 9, 2014 12:25:24 PM

fields224 said:
yes easily, the only thing an ssd will change is shortening the loading times


Okay, thats what I thought!

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March 9, 2014 12:28:10 PM

Davidh789 said:
fields224 said:
yes easily, the only thing an ssd will change is shortening the loading times


Okay, thats what I thought!



also just to point out, the case you have is a micro-atx case, so you will need the micro-atx motherboard.

its basically just the size of the mobo, full atx, micro atx, mini itx.

the main difference is just less PCI-E slots, but micro atx has enough for 2 way sli anyway if u ever wanted it
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March 9, 2014 12:29:12 PM

4GB of VRAM on the 770 is useless unless you're using more than one monitor.
I don't recommend gaming on 2 monitors either, you should go with 1 or 3.
If you plan on gaming with 3 monitors then you would need more than a 770.

So stick to one monitor.

Also I don't recommend Razer gaming peripherals.
I have a few friends with the DeathAdder and Blackwidow, both have been defective and broken in less then 2 years.

I do recommend however, Corsair products.
I personally have the Corsair K95, (highest end mechanical keyboard of their lineup atm) and it is the best keyboard I've ever used.
Also Corsair mice are also very nice. Search up the Corsair M45, the budget gaming mouse in their lineup.

Also I would recommend getting a different brand PSU, probably from XFX, Antec, Seasonic, Corsair (not CX).
This would be a very premium choice. Also, 750W is not what you need, 650W should be more than enough.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

Power Supply: SeaSonic 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($100.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $100.98
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-03-09 15:28 EDT-0400)
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March 9, 2014 12:34:10 PM

If you are going to be video editing then can I maybe recommend an 8320/50 with an am3 motherboard of course? The extra cores really boost performance in that area and plus its cheaper than the i5 and so is the motherboard. If you are set on intel then thats fine but its just a suggestion. :) 
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March 9, 2014 12:38:51 PM

AgentTran said:
4GB of VRAM on the 770 is useless unless you're using more than one monitor.
I don't recommend gaming on 2 monitors either, you should go with 1 or 3.
If you plan on gaming with 3 monitors then you would need more than a 770.

So stick to one monitor.

Also I don't recommend Razer gaming peripherals.
I have a few friends with the DeathAdder and Blackwidow, both have been defective and broken in less then 2 years.

I do recommend however, Corsair products.
I personally have the Corsair K95, (highest end mechanical keyboard of their lineup atm) and it is the best keyboard I've ever used.
Also Corsair mice are also very nice. Search up the Corsair M45, the budget gaming mouse in their lineup.

Also I would recommend getting a different brand PSU, probably from XFX, Antec, Seasonic, Corsair (not CX).
This would be a very premium choice. Also, 750W is not what you need, 650W should be more than enough.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

Power Supply: SeaSonic 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($100.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $100.98
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-03-09 15:28 EDT-0400)


I heard that razer isn't the best company, I'll look more into corsair, however, I have heard the death-adder is very nice, but I shall look into the mouse you suggested. I will be changing my PSU, Would 650 watts be enough even @ overclocked? I really plan to only game on one monitor, and use the extra monitor for a second-screen to have such as a map, or skype, or extra information, would that be fine? Would you recommend the 280x over the 770 4gb? Other than those things, is this build solid?

EDIT: Changed To m45, and k95. :) 
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March 9, 2014 12:40:16 PM

UncreativeName said:
If you are going to be video editing then can I maybe recommend an 8320/50 with an am3 motherboard of course? The extra cores really boost performance in that area and plus its cheaper than the i5 and so is the motherboard. If you are set on intel then thats fine but its just a suggestion. :) 


I'm not going to go hardcore video editing, and I am kinda set on intel, thanks for the suggestion. I may open up my options to amd in another build, if I choose to build another computer.
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March 9, 2014 12:49:02 PM

Your build is great and good look with it. I prefer the 280x so would go with that, the 2gb though. As for the PSU personally I would go with something like the Seasonic M12II 650w or Corsair TX650M.
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March 9, 2014 12:51:37 PM

UncreativeName said:
Your build is great and good look with it. I prefer the 280x so would go with that, the 2gb though. As for the PSU personally I would go with something like the Seasonic M12II 650w or Corsair TX650M.


Great to hear! Can you justify why you rather have a 280x 2gb? I don't know which card to get. =P I am going to be doing hardcore modding/gaming on this pc as well. (ARMA :D , etc.)
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March 9, 2014 2:04:20 PM

My post got eaten and was lengthy. If you want step by step answer I can later but I am busy atm.
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March 9, 2014 2:49:07 PM

Davidh789 said:
AgentTran said:
4GB of VRAM on the 770 is useless unless you're using more than one monitor.
I don't recommend gaming on 2 monitors either, you should go with 1 or 3.
If you plan on gaming with 3 monitors then you would need more than a 770.

So stick to one monitor.

Also I don't recommend Razer gaming peripherals.
I have a few friends with the DeathAdder and Blackwidow, both have been defective and broken in less then 2 years.

I do recommend however, Corsair products.
I personally have the Corsair K95, (highest end mechanical keyboard of their lineup atm) and it is the best keyboard I've ever used.
Also Corsair mice are also very nice. Search up the Corsair M45, the budget gaming mouse in their lineup.

Also I would recommend getting a different brand PSU, probably from XFX, Antec, Seasonic, Corsair (not CX).
This would be a very premium choice. Also, 750W is not what you need, 650W should be more than enough.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

Power Supply: SeaSonic 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($100.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $100.98
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-03-09 15:28 EDT-0400)


I heard that razer isn't the best company, I'll look more into corsair, however, I have heard the death-adder is very nice, but I shall look into the mouse you suggested. I will be changing my PSU, Would 650 watts be enough even @ overclocked? I really plan to only game on one monitor, and use the extra monitor for a second-screen to have such as a map, or skype, or extra information, would that be fine? Would you recommend the 280x over the 770 4gb? Other than those things, is this build solid?

EDIT: Changed To m45, and k95. :) 

Well, if you plan on using AMD's new "Mantle", then the R9 280X would be better.
But in general FPS comparison, the 770 takes a slight lead.

Also, for the GPU you could stick with 4GB of VRAM, but I would recommend getting the cheaper model with less VRAM. 2GB or 3GB would be enough for you.

Running one screen for gaming and another just for multitasking would be just fine, but you might need more power to run the whole build. But I think 650W is solid though. If you have the money and want room to maybe add another GPU you could invest in 750 - 800W, but if not then I think just getting 650W would do just fine.

Overall, I think this build is solid.

oh, and to add on about the deathadder, I had one until recently, well literally a week ago when some how it all just fell apart and now I'm stuck using some ghetto one until my Corsair M45 arrives.
When the DeathAdder worked, it was great. But only about 1 and a half years into it's life span, it died on me.
Also I like the look of Corsair products in general better. The green on Razer compared to the Red on Corsair can't even be matched imo.
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March 9, 2014 3:06:50 PM

Sorry im on a phone so am doing lots of typos. What i meant to say was i prefer the r9 280x (which you can only get as 3gb) but if you want a gtx 770 get the 2gb. Sorry for any confusion. I just prefer the 280x because of mantle api and my main game is battlefield 4 which uses that. And also I play modded games too and alot of modded games use more than 2gb pf vram.
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March 9, 2014 3:13:45 PM

UncreativeName said:
Sorry im on a phone so am doing lots of typos. What i meant to say was i prefer the r9 280x (which you can only get as 3gb) but if you want a gtx 770 get the 2gb. Sorry for any confusion. I just prefer the 280x because of mantle api and my main game is battlefield 4 which uses that. And also I play modded games too and alot of modded games use more than 2gb pf vram.


Yeah sure, that's fine.
The R9 280X only lacks a few frames behind the 770, but in power consumption, noise and all that other great stuff I think the 770 is ahead. But with Mantle that may change.

Depending on which modded games you do play, you might need more than 2GB of VRAM, but probably never up to 4GB.
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March 9, 2014 6:45:38 PM

UncreativeName said:
Sorry im on a phone so am doing lots of typos. What i meant to say was i prefer the r9 280x (which you can only get as 3gb) but if you want a gtx 770 get the 2gb. Sorry for any confusion. I just prefer the 280x because of mantle api and my main game is battlefield 4 which uses that. And also I play modded games too and alot of modded games use more than 2gb pf vram.


Thanks for everyones post first of all, I shall be sticking to the 770 4gb, as even though 4gb is a bit much, I know I will never be really lacking there. Better safe than sorry, as well, I don't think mantle will be included in many games until the far, or near future. If they do, I mean, I can always add another Graphics card. I will be going with the k95 and m45, as they look fresh, and slick. I think I might bump my PSU to a 750w, or an 800w just to add room for upgrades/minor tweaking, etc. Two more questions Do I need more fans? AND Whats a good wifi solution to my motherboard, or should I go with a wifi adapter? If so, link please?
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March 9, 2014 6:47:59 PM

Tom Tancredi said:
My post got eaten and was lengthy. If you want step by step answer I can later but I am busy atm.


If you have the time, I would be enticed. All the input I can have is great. However, if you cannot find some time, its perfectly fine.
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March 10, 2014 12:54:34 AM

AgentTran said:
UncreativeName said:
Sorry im on a phone so am doing lots of typos. What i meant to say was i prefer the r9 280x (which you can only get as 3gb)
but if you want a gtx 770 get the 2gb. Sorry for any confusion. I just prefer the 280x because of mantle api and my main game is battlefield 4 which uses that. And also I play modded games too and alot of modded games use more than 2gb pf vram.


Yeah sure, that's fine.
The R9 280X only lacks a few frames behind the 770, but in power consumption, noise and all that other great stuff I think the 770 is ahead. But with Mantle that may change.

Depending on which modded games you do play, you might need more than 2GB of VRAM, but probably never up to 4GB.


I'm not the one asking the question lol, I was just correcting my answer I gave before because it had lots of typos. I guess this will help the poster asking anyways haha.

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