Is my CPU causing my computer to overheat and crash?

Werks · Mar 9, 2014

Okay my crashing is weird when im in a game the music stops with a weird beep sound and the screen freezes and my razor keyboard and mouse turn off and it stays on the picture it froze on for about 2 minutes until it shuts itself off and restarts. This happens on occasion but more recently about 1-2 hours in almost any game but never when im not playing a game. i recently got a new psu (750w) and gpu (gtx 770) and ive been crashing on high octane games mostly Rome total war 2. now ive checked my temps and during game my gpu doesnt get above 50c but my cpu (Intel core i5-3450 3.50 ghz) gets to about 62-68c on fulll load during rome. im almost fed up with this and about to take it to a shop cause i really dont know what is wrong with it.
I thought it might be the temps so i already ordered a water cooling kit for my cpu. i also could not find anything worth noting from my crash log it just says unexpected shutdown and nothing else
System specs
Operating System: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit (6.1, Build 7601)
System Manufacturer: Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd.
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3450 CPU @ 3.10GHz (4 CPUs), ~3.5GHz
Memory: 4096MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 4044MB RAM
Page File: 3573MB used, 4511MB available
DirectX Version: DirectX 11
Card name: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 770

JimF_35 · Mar 9, 2014

Run Furmark and tell us what your GPU temps get to.

http://www.ozone3d.net/benchmarks/fur/

Werks · Mar 9, 2014

my gpu temps got 68 c

Werks · Mar 9, 2014

i also ran the cpu test and it got up to 72c after about 4minutes

JackNaylorPE · Mar 9, 2014

Your temps are not an issue.

None of the listed "specs" are particularly useful as no brand names or models are included (Other than CPU), which is especially significant for PSU.

IS system OC'd ?

But must importantly there is no desvcription of what happened. Open Event Viewer (system log) and look for warnings and error messages at the time of failure.

JimF_35 · Mar 9, 2014

Well your temps look good. It most likely something else such as faulty memory or CPU. Try running Prime95 using the Blend Test and see if any of your Threads stop due to errors.

http://www.mersenne.org/freesoft/

Also note your temps because Prime95 is a true load tester.

Werks · Mar 9, 2014

So i did the prime95 test and none of the threads stopped and my system is not overclocked. i looked into my logs in found 4 things that happen everytime i start up to crash
This one happens when i start the computer":
1.:The driver \Driver\WUDFRd failed to load for the device WpdBusEnumRoot\UMB\2&37c186b&0&STORAGE#VOLUME#_??_USBSTOR#DISK&VEN_GENERIC&PROD_STORAGE_DEVICE&REV_9602#000000009602&0#.
event:219

2:the last 3 are when the system is rebooting
The system has rebooted without cleanly shutting down first. This error could be caused if the system stopped responding, crashed, or lost power unexpectedly
from system: Kernal power
event:41

3:Audit events have been dropped by the transport. 0
event 11

4:Custom dynamic link libraries are being loaded for every application. The system administrator should review the list of libraries to ensure they are related to trusted applications.
event 219

ill try to find better info on my specs

JimF_35 · Mar 9, 2014

"2:the last 3 are when the system is rebooting
The system has rebooted without cleanly shutting down first. This error could be caused if the system stopped responding, crashed, or lost power unexpectedly
from system: Kernal power
event:41"

This could be a PSU problem. Would you happen to have another power supply you can swap out with your current one?

Werks · Mar 9, 2014

yes but the power of its is 550 watts and probably will not support my gpu. would it matter if my psu a little too big for my case? i could only screw in 2 of the 4 spots to hold down the psu but it stays firm where it should be and the fan is not blocked

JimF_35 · Mar 9, 2014

It should be ok as long as you are not running any games at full details. It is only to test if your PSU is not the problem. It could be not performing like it should. The only problem I have is your computer should have crashed while running Furmark because it would have used a lot of power for your GPU.

JackNaylorPE · Mar 9, 2014

PSU is adequately sized if its a 750 as you said in 1st post but bordeline if it's a 550 as you say later on so it depends on which one it actually is

http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-770/specifications

Thermal and Power Specs:
Maximum GPU Temperature (in C) - 98 C
Graphics Card Power (W) - 230 W
Minimum Recommended System Power (W) - 600 W
Supplementary Power Connectors - One 8-pin and one 6-pin

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/geforce_gtx_770_review,5.html

Here is Guru3D's power supply recommendation:

GeForce GTX 770 - On your average system the card requires you to have a 550 Watt power supply unit.
GeForce GTX 770 2-way SLI - On your average system the cards require you to have a 750 Watt power supply unit as minimum.
GeForce GTX 770 3-way SLI - On your average system the cards require you to have a 1000 Watt power supply unit as minimum.

If you are going to overclock your GPU or processor, then we do recommend you purchase something with some more stamina.

The messages you get upon starting are not really relevant ... ya wanna look at the last entries right before that.

Werks · Mar 9, 2014

okay ill have to find it but my computer only crashes when im well into games about a hour and i dont know if ill have enough power to run it that long

Werks · Mar 9, 2014

"Custom dynamic link libraries are being loaded for every application. The system administrator should review the list of libraries to ensure they are related to trusted applications." this is the only other error i get. My new psu i got 3 days ago is a rosewill capstone 750 watt 80plus gold

JimF_35 · Mar 9, 2014

Another trick you could try is to use Mulix adapters to power your GPU but this trick only works with PSUs that have separate rails and if one of the rails is failing. Can you give us the make and model of your power supply?

Edit : Oops missed your other post.

Never mind yours only has one rail...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182073

JackNaylorPE · Mar 9, 2014

Werks :

Well the capstone is a perty good PSU

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story5&reid=266

Ok in that case, I'd download OCCT....run the CPU test and monitor temps and voltages. Then run the GPU test and do the same. Don't run them both together (PSU test) as that can fry a less than stellar PSU.

http://www.ocbase.com/index.php/download

Werks · Mar 9, 2014

the cpu ran fine 63-69c and 3v and gpu didnt get above 70c

Werks · Mar 9, 2014

could this be my ram acting up? i only got 4g of ram

Major_Trouble · Mar 9, 2014

Your system only has 4gb of ram and yet your OS is 64 bit. You could add another 4gb to give 8gb which is the sweet spot for performance/cost.

Anyway you should check your available ram after an hours worth of gaming to see if how much you have free. Memory leaks can also give freezing issues.

I have to say though the PSU is the most likely culprit and should be checked. Have you plugged it in correctly i.e. using the PCI-E power lead for the GPU.
Ram is the second which you appear to have checked out following the previous good advice.

You should check you are using the latest BIOS for your mobo. Later revisions can help with instability.

Werks · Mar 9, 2014

okay when i start my computer when i go into the motherboard start up screen it doesnt let me go into bios or anything and stays there for a long time and finally loads in. ive also checked if i put my gpu in right and i did i think

Major_Trouble · Mar 9, 2014

Your slow loading boot screen has me curious. You need to be able to get into the BIOS. Try holding the F2, F10 or delete key during boot up. I believe those are the most common for Gigabyte mobos. You might try running CPU-Z to get your mobo details. It will also give your the BIOS version which you should be able to check against the latest on the Gigabyte site.

A slow booting machine like you describe hints at some hardware conflict. If you check Windows Device Manager does it show any problem devices?

JackNaylorPE · Mar 9, 2014

Werks :

Memtest 86+ will answer that question.... and in case this isn't clear, when ya see it stated run this or run that we are talking at least 2 hours and preferably overnight

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