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March 9, 2014 7:13:15 PM

I've been going back and forth trying to decide what parts to get, and I think I may have finally got the build to where I'm content (for the most part), and comfortable with the total cost. I will be using the computer obviously for the basic stuff (browsing, email, music, videos, etc.) but I also want a system that can handle most games I may want to play. Working with a $600 budget (including OS), here's what I got:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i3-4130 3.4GHz Dual-Core Processor ($112.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus H81M-A Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($54.99 @ NCIX US)
Memory: GeIL EVO POTENZA 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.94 @ Amazon)
Video Card: PNY GeForce GTX 660 2GB Video Card ($149.99 @ Microcenter)
Case: Zalman ZM-T1 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($27.99 @ Mwave)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 430W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($16.98 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $612.84
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-03-09 22:13 EDT-0400)

Thoughts? Suggestions?

A few things to note, which are really the only factors holding me back from making a final decision & purchasing the parts already!: (any thoughts on the following?)

* Someone recommended I go with the ASUS motherboard (listed above) rather than the slightly cheaper one (MSI) that I was going to get.

* Someone suggested to save $10, I could go with a "Western Digital RE3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM", instead of the one I have listed above (but said it was a little louder, which doesn't appeal to me).

* It was also suggested that I go with a " NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case" instead of the Mini case I have listed above (maybe they thought the mini would be too difficult for me to build in, I don't know).

* I was told that the 430w psu listed above will be fine for the GTX 660 (even though when I looked at the specs for the GTX 660, it states a minimum psu of 450w). That's a little concerning. I could spend an extra $10 and get a 500w (but it's non-modular).

I feel like I'm so close (Finally!) to deciding on a build, I just wanna' clear these few things up real quick first! It would be greatly appreciated! Thank you!



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a b 4 Gaming
March 9, 2014 7:17:44 PM

I would strongly suggest getting an MD FX-6300 instead of the i3. Dual core CPUs are really not viable options for modern gaming any more, most titles take advantage of 4 cores and even some, such as Battlefield 4, can use up to 8 cores, which will be more common in the future. You can get the 4130 and 6300 for around the same price, plus find a motherboard for the same price too, and get better performance for most games.

That being said, if you mainly play old games or MMO's, the i3 would in fact be better. But otherwise, I would look into getting a 6300.
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March 9, 2014 7:17:59 PM

one thing i would think about is if you really need a dvd reader because i bought one and never use it
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March 9, 2014 7:27:12 PM

I actually really like this build. For the price the choices are perfect. If you did go for a fx-6300 build then you'd need a $90 mobo (to safely overclock) and a $30 cooler. So, what you have is good already. The i3 will not limit you given your applications.

The Asus mobo is already as cheap as I'd go. Asus is the top mobo maker.
Stick with the Western Digital Blue HDD.
If you don't think you will upgrade components then the 430W PSU is enough.
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March 9, 2014 7:28:54 PM

ToneG said:
one thing i would think about is if you really need a dvd reader because i bought one and never use it


Yeah, I would prefer the cd/dvd drive for a few reasons: a few of the older games I have are on disc (and some of them require the disc to be in while playing), I can see myself still going out and purchasing some slightly older pc games real cheap (or other software) and installing them via cd. Also, I will still occasionally want to toss in a music cd to add to itunes and transfer onto the kiddos ipod. I realize I can purchase games online, and go the itunes store and get music that way and do everything else digitally nowadays, but call me old school, I don't see why someone wouldn't want to get one, considering how cheap they are, in case they ever have use for one.
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March 9, 2014 7:36:32 PM

apcs13 said:
I would strongly suggest getting an MD FX-6300 instead of the i3. Dual core CPUs are really not viable options for modern gaming any more, most titles take advantage of 4 cores and even some, such as Battlefield 4, can use up to 8 cores, which will be more common in the future. You can get the 4130 and 6300 for around the same price, plus find a motherboard for the same price too, and get better performance for most games.

That being said, if you mainly play old games or MMO's, the i3 would in fact be better. But otherwise, I would look into getting a 6300.


Doesn't the i3 dual core act almost as a 4-core though with the threads? I'm not very knowledgeable about a lot of this, I just read that somewhere. And yes, to be honest, most of the games I will be playing will most likely be slightly older, maybe some of them will only be a couple years old, but still. I wouldn't mind trying some newer games at some point. I am definitely interested in trying out WOW, as I have heard so much about it, but just never got around to getting it (not that it would have worked too well on my current pc anyway..lol).
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March 9, 2014 7:45:56 PM

envy14tpe said:
I actually really like this build. For the price the choices are perfect. If you did go for a fx-6300 build then you'd need a $90 mobo (to safely overclock) and a $30 cooler. So, what you have is good already. The i3 will not limit you given your applications.

The Asus mobo is already as cheap as I'd go. Asus is the top mobo maker.
Stick with the Western Digital Blue HDD.
If you don't think you will upgrade components then the 430W PSU is enough.


Thanks for the response. If I upgrade, it probably wouldn't be for at least a couple years I'm sure. As long as it goes smoothly and everything is working, then I'll be good for a long while! I won't feel the need to upgrade to the newest video card that may be coming out in the near future or anything.
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a b 4 Gaming
March 9, 2014 8:06:57 PM

Based on what you said I like your i3 build. I said my 2cents and I hope others will have more opinions.
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March 9, 2014 8:17:15 PM

envy14tpe said:
Based on what you said I like your i3 build. I said my 2cents and I hope others will have more opinions.


Thanks, I appreciate your help. I don't think I'm gonna' wait around too much longer for other opinions, because knowing my luck, the prices of every single part in my build will go up...haha. Thanks again!!
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March 9, 2014 9:00:36 PM

Kev79 said:
apcs13 said:
I would strongly suggest getting an MD FX-6300 instead of the i3. Dual core CPUs are really not viable options for modern gaming any more, most titles take advantage of 4 cores and even some, such as Battlefield 4, can use up to 8 cores, which will be more common in the future. You can get the 4130 and 6300 for around the same price, plus find a motherboard for the same price too, and get better performance for most games.

That being said, if you mainly play old games or MMO's, the i3 would in fact be better. But otherwise, I would look into getting a 6300.


Doesn't the i3 dual core act almost as a 4-core though with the threads? I'm not very knowledgeable about a lot of this, I just read that somewhere. And yes, to be honest, most of the games I will be playing will most likely be slightly older, maybe some of them will only be a couple years old, but still. I wouldn't mind trying some newer games at some point. I am definitely interested in trying out WOW, as I have heard so much about it, but just never got around to getting it (not that it would have worked too well on my current pc anyway..lol).


No, no, not at all actually. The i3 has Intel's hyperthreading, which means that the processor has 4 threads, but only 2 cores. It's usually better than having just 2 cores, but it is always better to have 4 actual cores unless the quad core CPU is horrible. For example, a hyperthreaded i3 will lose to a non-hyperthreaded i5. See this video for a more in-depth explanation: http://youtu.be/wnS50lJicXc

However, if you know for a fact that you will only play older titles, non-demanding titles, or MMO's, and know for a fact you won't play new titles like Battlefield, Thief, Watch Dogs, etc., than the i3 will be a better choice due to it being better in single-threaded tasks than the 6300 is. If you are remotely interested in modern games at all, I would strongly suggest a 6300 over the i3. While it is worse in single-threaded tasks, it is not by as huge of an amount as a lot of people are led to believe, it is certainly noticeable, but no games run off of a single core anymore, and very very few off of just two (besides some MMO's). Also, there are a lot better low-price motherboards on AMD's lineup, and it's not hard to find an AMD motherboard for the same price as the one you have that is a lot better for things such as overclocking.
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March 9, 2014 9:11:57 PM

envy14tpe said:
Given the prices of PSUs today I'd probably stick with a CX one. How about a 500W semi-modular one:
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-power-supply-cx500...


Yeah, I saw that one; actually had it configured into one of my possible builds, but then took it back out and put back in the 430w..lol
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March 9, 2014 9:18:01 PM

envy14tpe said:
Given the prices of PSUs today I'd probably stick with a CX one. How about a 500W semi-modular one:
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-power-supply-cx500...


Oh and another thing, as much as I hate to admit this, I'm second guessing about the whole GTX 660 thing, only because I have to pay $180 up front for it now and then wait 6-8 weeks after the end of March for the $30, which there's no absolute 100% guarantee that I'll even receive, whereas I could just pay the $150 for the PNY 750 Ti now and be done with it. Considering I'm not a hardcore gamer, I'm thinking I probably wouldn't even notice the difference between the two cards. Ahhhhhh, I am so good at making decisions, right?!
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a b 4 Gaming
March 9, 2014 9:33:38 PM

What's your budget for the build?
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March 9, 2014 9:35:54 PM

apcs13 said:
Kev79 said:
apcs13 said:
I would strongly suggest getting an MD FX-6300 instead of the i3. Dual core CPUs are really not viable options for modern gaming any more, most titles take advantage of 4 cores and even some, such as Battlefield 4, can use up to 8 cores, which will be more common in the future. You can get the 4130 and 6300 for around the same price, plus find a motherboard for the same price too, and get better performance for most games.

That being said, if you mainly play old games or MMO's, the i3 would in fact be better. But otherwise, I would look into getting a 6300.


Doesn't the i3 dual core act almost as a 4-core though with the threads? I'm not very knowledgeable about a lot of this, I just read that somewhere. And yes, to be honest, most of the games I will be playing will most likely be slightly older, maybe some of them will only be a couple years old, but still. I wouldn't mind trying some newer games at some point. I am definitely interested in trying out WOW, as I have heard so much about it, but just never got around to getting it (not that it would have worked too well on my current pc anyway..lol).


No, no, not at all actually. The i3 has Intel's hyperthreading, which means that the processor has 4 threads, but only 2 cores. It's usually better than having just 2 cores, but it is always better to have 4 actual cores unless the quad core CPU is horrible. For example, a hyperthreaded i3 will lose to a non-hyperthreaded i5. See this video for a more in-depth explanation: http://youtu.be/wnS50lJicXc

However, if you know for a fact that you will only play older titles, non-demanding titles, or MMO's, and know for a fact you won't play new titles like Battlefield, Thief, Watch Dogs, etc., than the i3 will be a better choice due to it being better in single-threaded tasks than the 6300 is. If you are remotely interested in modern games at all, I would strongly suggest a 6300 over the i3. While it is worse in single-threaded tasks, it is not by as huge of an amount as a lot of people are led to believe, it is certainly noticeable, but no games run off of a single core anymore, and very very few off of just two (besides some MMO's). Also, there are a lot better low-price motherboards on AMD's lineup, and it's not hard to find an AMD motherboard for the same price as the one you have that is a lot better for things such as overclocking.


ughhh, you're killin' me! lol. I thought I had my build pretty much all figured out after going back and forth for what seemed like an eternity the past week, down to just choosing between the two GPU's, and now this?! hahaha... I'm so lost!
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March 9, 2014 9:40:08 PM

envy14tpe said:
What's your budget for the build?


Well, originally I wanted to stay under $600 (including the OS). I'm fine with like $15 or $20 over.
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March 9, 2014 10:04:52 PM

apcs13 said:
Kev79 said:
apcs13 said:
I would strongly suggest getting an MD FX-6300 instead of the i3. Dual core CPUs are really not viable options for modern gaming any more, most titles take advantage of 4 cores and even some, such as Battlefield 4, can use up to 8 cores, which will be more common in the future. You can get the 4130 and 6300 for around the same price, plus find a motherboard for the same price too, and get better performance for most games.

That being said, if you mainly play old games or MMO's, the i3 would in fact be better. But otherwise, I would look into getting a 6300.


Doesn't the i3 dual core act almost as a 4-core though with the threads? I'm not very knowledgeable about a lot of this, I just read that somewhere. And yes, to be honest, most of the games I will be playing will most likely be slightly older, maybe some of them will only be a couple years old, but still. I wouldn't mind trying some newer games at some point. I am definitely interested in trying out WOW, as I have heard so much about it, but just never got around to getting it (not that it would have worked too well on my current pc anyway..lol).


No, no, not at all actually. The i3 has Intel's hyperthreading, which means that the processor has 4 threads, but only 2 cores. It's usually better than having just 2 cores, but it is always better to have 4 actual cores unless the quad core CPU is horrible. For example, a hyperthreaded i3 will lose to a non-hyperthreaded i5. See this video for a more in-depth explanation: http://youtu.be/wnS50lJicXc

However, if you know for a fact that you will only play older titles, non-demanding titles, or MMO's, and know for a fact you won't play new titles like Battlefield, Thief, Watch Dogs, etc., than the i3 will be a better choice due to it being better in single-threaded tasks than the 6300 is. If you are remotely interested in modern games at all, I would strongly suggest a 6300 over the i3. While it is worse in single-threaded tasks, it is not by as huge of an amount as a lot of people are led to believe, it is certainly noticeable, but no games run off of a single core anymore, and very very few off of just two (besides some MMO's). Also, there are a lot better low-price motherboards on AMD's lineup, and it's not hard to find an AMD motherboard for the same price as the one you have that is a lot better for things such as overclocking.


Nevermind, I had already done some research that I saved and forgot about it, and just quickly googled a little i3-4130 vs. fx-6300 info to refresh my memory. I'm not too worried. Thanks for the suggestions though
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a b 4 Gaming
March 9, 2014 10:36:37 PM

If you are willing to push budget to $700 then I'd suggest the fx-6300. But only if you will overclock it. My only concern is how much power. 500W feels kinda tight. I'd rather have a 600W PSU, so cost will be like $80 more than a i3 build. But here is a fx-6300 build.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/37g2k
CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($109.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($30.98 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus M5A97 R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($89.99 @ Microcenter)
Memory: GeIL EVO POTENZA 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.94 @ Amazon)
Video Card: PNY GeForce GTX 660 2GB Video Card ($149.99 @ Microcenter)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 500W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($16.98 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $687.82
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March 9, 2014 10:56:12 PM

envy14tpe said:
If you are willing to push budget to $700 then I'd suggest the fx-6300. But only if you will overclock it. My only concern is how much power. 500W feels kinda tight. I'd rather have a 600W PSU, so cost will be like $80 more than a i3 build. But here is a fx-6300 build.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/37g2k
CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($109.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($30.98 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus M5A97 R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($89.99 @ Microcenter)
Memory: GeIL EVO POTENZA 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.94 @ Amazon)
Video Card: PNY GeForce GTX 660 2GB Video Card ($149.99 @ Microcenter)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 500W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($16.98 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $687.82


I wish I had the money to spend more, but in all honesty, I don't even know if I would want to spend any more. And considering I really don't know anything about overclocking (aside from what I learned from doing recent research), my guess is that I don't need to..haha. I appreciate you putting the build together and the suggestions though.

I think my final decision is gonna' be the build I originally posted. Now I just have to go through the tedious task of figuring out if I should go to each individual web site (that pcpartpicker shows as being the lowest price) to purchase the part and possibly pay shipping for each part for each vendor, or see if I will save any money by trying to get all, or most of the parts through one vendor. Blahhhhh..... is there any easier way of going about this?
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a b 4 Gaming
March 10, 2014 2:11:44 AM

Do you live near a Microcenter store?
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March 10, 2014 3:27:55 AM

envy14tpe said:
Do you live near a Microcenter store?


No, not really. I looked it up and the nearest one would be a 2 hour drive!
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March 10, 2014 1:43:39 PM

Okay, feeling very annoyed right now! Went to start purchasing some of the parts last night, after checking to see if I might save a little on shipping if I got most of them from the same place, and of course the prices were not accurate. The one I noticed first was that pcpartpicker had the psu advertised as being $29.99 after a $20 mail-in-rebate. Wrong! I went to newegg and they had it listed as being regular price $69.99, $20.00 off instantly, and a $10 mail-in-rebate, making the final price $39.99! I contacted someone at Newegg to inquire about it, and they told me I should check with pcpartpicker, which I did. I see that they corrected the price, but never replied to my email, with an apology, or at the least a thank you for catching their mistake! So, okay..$10 was not a huge deal; BUT WAIT, there's more!!

So, the next thing I notice is the Intel i3-4130 is listed on pcpartpicker as being $124.99, and $112.99 after rebate, also at newegg, and low and behold, the rebate was only good til 3/9, which it's still showing the same thing as I am typing right now (3/10). And of course, the fun couldn't stop there! I just noticed that the PNY GTX 660 that I was going to get for $149.99 (after $30 mail-in-rebate) is no longer available (must have sold out, because it said on the microcenter site the offer was good til the end of March). Oh, and then the WD HDD must have been sold out from Amazon, so it changed vendors automatically on me and it's $20 more now.

So, what started out as a total price being about $612 (comfortable with, considering my $600 budget), is now around $680 or so! Just my luck! And it's not like I waited around forever, I was simply checking to see if I could bundle anything at the same web site and save on shipping, and then BOOM, prices get jacked up and parts become unavailable! Very frustrating! I know, I should understand that this is probably a common occurrence and not be complaining about it so much, it's just this is the second time it's happened when I was content with my build. I'm ready to either just wait a while to see if prices go back down, or if something similar or better is offered (gpu, hdd, etc.), or pick a different build altogether!! F this S!
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March 10, 2014 2:16:09 PM

I guess I just need to find the build I want (which now I have to look again and try to figure something else out that is close to the $600 budget similar to what I wanted to go with before), and just purchase each part from each web site that it shows (as long as the pricing info is actually correct on pcpartpicker!!) as fast as I possibly can, instead of trying to see if I can save money on shipping by bundling them together through a particular web site. Ahhhhhh, this is turning into a huge, aggravating disappointment!
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a b 4 Gaming
March 11, 2014 8:20:33 PM

If you aren't in a rush you could buy parts over time; or buy used on ebay, craigslist, or wherever.
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March 12, 2014 12:13:52 AM

envy14tpe said:
If you aren't in a rush you could buy parts over time; or buy used on ebay, craigslist, or wherever.


Very eager to get everything asap and start building it, so I wasn't intending on taking my time; just enough time to do a good bit of research, which I've done so much in the past week, my brain is fried..haha. I revised the build a little bit to bring the price back down to about $610, and I went ahead and finally bought all the parts! I'm excited about receiving them and getting the build started!

One concern I have right now though, is about the hard drive I ordered off Amazon, because I noticed someone posted a comment on Amazon saying it doesn't come with screws or cables or anything, just the drive. Is that going to be an issue, and if so, what will I need to do?
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March 12, 2014 12:22:51 AM

I think I may have gotten the answer I was looking for. I posted pretty much the same question on Amazon for that drive and someone told me this: "Drives, including this one, will normally come with mounting hardware only. Any cabling usually comes with the motherboard or you will need to supply them separately. Make sure they are SATA cables designed for connecting hard drives. As mentioned before the motherboard will normally come with at least two cables for power and SATA interface. Depending on the case you purchase, the mounting hardware may be enough to stabilize the drive in the case. Check the towers mounting instructions."

So, hopefully there won't be any major issues that can't be easily taken care of.
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March 12, 2014 12:39:18 AM

Okay, I just checked actually on the specs for the motherboard that I'm getting and it comes with two SATA cables, so it should be all good. False Alarm!! haha
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a b 4 Gaming
March 12, 2014 3:27:15 AM

Usually when you buy a case, HDD, or whatever else..you'll have plenty of screws and what nots. If you are missing something any computer store will carry what you need.

Can you list what you decided to buy?
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March 12, 2014 8:24:27 AM

envy14tpe said:
Usually when you buy a case, HDD, or whatever else..you'll have plenty of screws and what nots. If you are missing something any computer store will carry what you need.

Can you list what you decided to buy?


This is what it came down to for my $600 budget build:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i3-4130 3.4GHz Dual-Core Processor (Purchased For $118.97)
Motherboard: Asus H81M-E Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (Purchased For $58.99)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport XT 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (Purchased For $69.99)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (Purchased For $57.99)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB Video Card (Purchased For $149.99)
Case: Zalman ZM-T1 MicroATX Mini Tower Case (Purchased For $29.99)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (Purchased For $19.99)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer (Purchased For $16.98)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) (Purchased For $89.98)
Total: $612.87
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-03-12 11:05 EDT-0400)

I was going to get the GTX 660, but switched back to the 750 Ti because of price changes. Hopefully everything goes smoothly and works as it should. It's pretty safe to say that I'll be a heck of a lot happier with this build (once it's completed), than I am with my current PC, or a pre-built one that I would have paid more for to have the same or similar specs as this!
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