CPU Temperatures extremely high, Will a watrcooler be good?

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When gaming, I've seen my CPU rising up to 105 C and that's extreme! I was using Intel's default CPU cooler but it didn't have any effect over it so I removed it and now I'm using an AVC 4950 RPM fan from my HP Pavilion Desktop (Old as year 2000). That thing has some juice in it but then the temps are still 80-96 C. What do I do? My friends advised that it's better to get an extremely powerful CPU Watercooler but with my experience, I don't think it'll be able to do anything where a fan of 4890 RPM couldn't.

Any suggestions gettting a water cooler or getting a nnormal CPU cooler?

~Thanks.

SYSTEM SPECS:-
CPU - Intel Core i5 2310 @ 2.9 GHz LGA1155
GPU - ASUS Nvidia GeForce GTX 650 Ti Boost 2GB GDDR5 DCU-OC2

RAM's - (2 Slots Used) G.Skill Sniper 4GB 1600 MHz RAM (Running @ 1600 MHz) | EVM Value Memory 4GB 1333 MHz RAM (Oc' at 1600 MHz)

Motherboard - ASUS P8Z77-V PCI-E 3.0 LGA1155
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I would reccomend getting a better Air cooler for starters...unless you have a really high ambient temperature in your house or the CPU is defective, you shouldn't be seeing those temps, even with the stock cooler. I realize you have that HP cooler however a more modern cooler with a higher thermal mass may very well help. I personally suggest this one:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103099
 
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Most likely, your stock cooler was not mounted well.

The ivy bridge cpu chips are not particularly hot at stock.


The stock Intel cooler can be tricky to install.
A poor installation will result in higher cpu temperatures.

To mount the Intel stock cooler properly, place the motherboard on top of the foam or cardboard backing that was packed with the motherboard.
The stock cooler will come with paste pre applied, it looks like three grey strips.
The 4 push pins should come in the proper position for installation, that is with the pins rotated in the direction of the arrow,(counter clockwise) as far as they can go.
If you want, play with the pushpin mechanism until you know how they work.
Place the cooler so that all 4 pins are oriented over the holes in the motherboard.

Push down on the entire cooler so that all 4 pins are through the motherboard.
When you push down on the top black pins, it expands the white plastic pins to fix the cooler in place.

The trick to getting it on is to push down on a DIAGONAL pair of pins at the same time. Then the other pair.
If you do them one at a time, you will not get the cooler on straight.
Lastly, look at the back of the motherboard to verify that all 4 pins are equally through the motherboard, and that the cooler is on firmly.
This last step must be done, which is why the motherboard must be out of the case to do the job.
It is possible to mount the cooler with the motherboard mounted in the case, but you can then never be certain that the push pins are inserted properly.

If you should need to remove the cooler, turn the pins clockwise to unlock them.
You will need to clean off the old paste and reapply new if you ever take the cooler off.

 
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Thanks for a suggestion here but I have my PC in the open for extra cooling. It's 24 C here in my room and nor my CPU is defective. The reason for this high temps is mainly overclocking which's done by the motherboard and it's not in my control and second - my Thermal Compound has dried up. So, I am just asking that how heavy watercoolers effect heat. I ask because the best cooler for $245 will freak my mind for days if it didn't have any major effect on temps.
 
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I'm not new to this PC assembling, I've been doing this for 3 Years and I know how to install a stock Intel CPU Cooler. The temps are still above 90 C when it's under load. Then, my thermal pste has been vaporized so I'll have to get a new paste. And pls answer for my question, Will a watercooler have a huge effect on temps?
 
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Short answer... no.
Very much no for a cpu chip that does not support overclocking.

You could invest $5 or so for some new thermal paste and remount the stock cooler.
There is no reason it will not do the job.

At most, I would invest $30 in a tower type cooler with a 120mm fan.
cm hyper212 or Xigmatek would be good.

Overclocking IS under your control.
The motherboard automated overclocking is normally more aggressive than manual overclocking using bios settings. In this case, I wonder how you managed to overclock a i5 cpu that does not permit cpu overclocking.

 
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Geofelt, Core i5 2310 does allow overclocking it upto 3.2 GHz. And I never want to change any default or automatic setting because I've already blown an old motherboard with sparks and fire so I'm not taking a chance! And BTW The mobo is OC'ing my CPU to 3.2 GHz only. The default OC Limit for a stock i5 2310 so I won't call it "aggressive".

Another thing, the summers are heading towards me and I also don't want to take a chance for overheat. I also want temps lower than 60 C. I'll get a CPU Cooler from an old competition award money so I don't take any loss. I never knew what to do with them and now I know! :D
 
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So far as I know, the 2310 has only limited overclocking by raising the BCLK level by up to 5%.
The BCLK interrelates with many other components and is not usually recommended as a way to aggressively oc.
Since your system is working OK, don't change it.

I certainly would not spend $245 on water cooling. For that, you could buy a 2500K and oc to levels near 4.5 with a fair air cooler.

Really, a simple $30 cooler with a 120mm fan will do the job for you.
In the mean time, if the heat bothers you, take the case side cover off and direct a fan at the innards. If this helps a bunch, you may have a case cooling issue and a case replacement will solve your problem.



 
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geofelt, I have the computer out of case and beautifully assembled and it looks awesome in the ark and temps in my room are cool as 24 C at night and 30 C at morning so the ourside temps don't have much of an effect on the cpu temps!
 
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I've not started different threads for same problem, this thread is for knowing the effect of watercooling on the CPU and the other one which we just discussed was about framdropping in games. Try seeing a bit more carefully bro. :)
 
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Okay, All I know is that liquid cooling makes the CPU chilled so I need it at most. I've experienced the high temps of ma PC. And if liquid cooling just has a different heat exchange place, why is it so expensive? Take anothr view on them, geofelt.
 
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yoyomah20, I got those temps and huge slowdown because I was using 2 RAM's of different model, latency, timing and frequency. So before doing any calcuations, my CPU had to adjust bot the DRAM timings and hence it got slow. It still gets slow but not that slow.... Like a drop to 30 FPS from 0 FPS which is general in high-end gaming. :D
 
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Liquid cooling uses a water block to get heat from the cpu die. Water is a good exchange medium, and that pert is very effective.
Then, the hot water is sent to a radiator where the heat is exchanged to air. That is the same process as an air cooler would do.
The added cost comes in with the addition of the water block, plumbing, and the pump needed to circulate the water.
That adds cost and the added opportunity for failure.
 
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