Help with a first time build

komrade · Mar 10, 2014

Untill now I only bought pre built systems so it's my first time and I'm kinda not completely sure so I would need some advice on my first build

CPU FX-8350

Motherboard GIGABYTE GA-970A-DS3P

RAM G.SKILL F3-17000CL11D-8GBXL 8GB (2X4GB) DDR3 PC3-17000 2133MHZ RIPJAWSX DUAL CHANNEL KIT

GPU ASUS HD7770-1GD5 1GB GDDR5

Power Supply CORSAIR CX500 - 80 PLUS BRONZE CERTIFIED

I will keep my old case and the HDDs

It's around 500€ but I think to add a SSD disk as I heard that they are great for the OS.

While 500€ isn't the top and of course I could make some alternations.

I'm not a hardcore gamer so an over the top GPU isn't exactly my priority, but I would like this build to last.

ewok93 · Mar 10, 2014

If you're overclocking, get the 8320. You should get the 8320 anyway and 8gb of RAM. Also, get some cheaper RAM, no point in 2133mhz really, and try to upgrade to a 7870 or 270x if possible.

ewok93 · Mar 10, 2014

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/37si6 You save a lot by getting the 8320, which is a factory underclocked 8350. I'd get a cooler like a CM Hyper 212 Evo and overclocking it at least to 8350 speeds.

zared619 · Mar 10, 2014

I think you will like this a little more.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor (£77.99 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£25.44 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-DS3P ATX AM3+ Motherboard (£49.96 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Patriot Signature 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£57.55 @ Ebuyer)
Storage: Sandisk Ultra Plus 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (£59.00 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card (£184.00 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£44.98 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £498.92
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-03-10 17:39 GMT+0000)

ewok93 · Mar 10, 2014

Well, the 8320 is better than the 6300, the 760 and 270x are about the same, so really all that offers is an SSD and CPU cooler, though I doubt he'll overclock. The SSD is nice, but can be added to mine.

zared619 · Mar 10, 2014

In gaming, the 8320 provides basically no advantage over the 6300 in actual game performance. Additionally, I would not recommend getting 1333 RAM. 1600 is basically the minimum for builds today. The 760 and the 270x are basically the same in gaming performance with one beating out the other by small margins varying from game-to-game. So you could go with the 270x and save yourself some money.

komrade · Mar 10, 2014

Thanks for your responses.
I was already thinking about 8320 instead of 8350 because of the 40€ difference and I have no problem with overclocking it. I was just thinking that instead of buying a cpu cooler to go for the 8350. I guess that I will go with the 8320 because it's 8-core and I guess with time more games and apps will use them so it will be better in the long run.
About the RAM where I am buying they have the 2133 the same price with the 1333 right now so that's why I chose it. And I think that I will include a SSD

Both the 760 and the 260x are almost twice the price of the 7770, do you think that it's worth it to buy a better GPU ?

ewok93 · Mar 10, 2014

Definitely, it will be a large improvement.

zared619 · Mar 10, 2014

To help convince you that it's worth it, examine these comparisons. The 760 isn't much better.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1079?vs=1043

ewok93 · Mar 10, 2014

The 8320 has a noticeable difference in a lot of games, especially new ones like BF4 and Crysis 3. 1333mhz RAM will perform just as well as 2133mhz, so don't sacrifice anything for faster RAM.

zared619 · Mar 10, 2014

The OP can get 2133 for the same price as 1333, so I would just go with the 2133.
I could be alone on this opinion, but I don't think that the very marginal performance game (~5%) is worth the extra £30. Additionally, the 8320 takes more power. I think that you are better off getting a decent cpu cooler like the CM 212 EVO. You can then easily overclock it to 4.2 GHz for better sequential processing. Games are still far more reliant on the gpu than cpu. If anything, take the money you save on the processor and put it towards the gpu.
As far as the future goes, most users are still using 2 or 4 cores which is very slowly moving towards 6 and 8. As ewok said earlier, some games such as Crysis 3 can make use of them, but the performance gain is minimal.

ewok93 · Mar 10, 2014

It's a large difference if you're streaming or doing anything else while gaming. It also helps with rendering and other things. It's worth it,

sora · Mar 11, 2014

zared619 :

The OP can get 2133 for the same price as 1333, so I would just go with the 2133.
I could be alone on this opinion, but I don't think that the very marginal performance game (~5%) is worth the extra £30. Additionally, the 8320 takes more power. I think that you are better off getting a decent cpu cooler like the CM 212 EVO. You can then easily overclock it to 4.2 GHz for better sequential processing. Games are still far more reliant on the gpu than cpu. If anything, take the money you save on the processor and put it towards the gpu.
As far as the future goes, most users are still using 2 or 4 cores which is very slowly moving towards 6 and 8. As ewok said earlier, some games such as Crysis 3 can make use of them, but the performance gain is minimal.

True, the 2133 does perform better.

ewok93 · Mar 11, 2014

No, I meant the 8320 vs the 6300. The 2133 will only perform better when used with an APU.

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