Dead Silent gaming-PC

noTGF1

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Hy,
I am new to overclocking, and decided do give it a try, just get a little bit more out of my budget pc(of course a have to spend more for cooling, but i need something good anyway).
So ofter spending so many hours i have no hope to achieve what i want, and i decided to give the community here a try, maybe someone is able to give me some help finding the best cooling solution.

So heres the build that should be able to provide the performance I am looking for:

CPU: FX6300 (used for demo before 76.50€)
Motherboard: ASUS M5A97 Evo R2.0, 970 (dual PC3-14900U DDR3) 86.10€
GPU: ASUS GTX660-DC2O-2GD5 or MSI GTX660 TwindFrozr around 160€
most likely ASUS for silence
RAM: Corsair Vengeance DIMM Kit 8GB PC3-12800U CL9-9-9-24 75.25€
Supply: XFX Core Edition 550W ATX 2.3 56.60€
Case: very old ATX case lying around at home, porbably tewak it a little for cooling. 0 to 20€ for case fan(s).
Display: No clue now, but not over 60Hz/Fps needed, 19' or 21', still have to check what resolution i can go for with my specs...

My goal is mid range gaming performance.
I am happy with 4x AA and some AI-Filter, i just dont want to turn them off completely.
Games will be something like:
AC3,AC4, Borderlands2, DayZ standalone

I really need it to be dead silent or almost inaudible.
and don't necessarily need to overclock, just thought it should be possible.
If theres no silent cooling for overclock, i can get a cheaper mobo ;).

I can't find a good and silent cooling solution, all are pretty loud. First i thought i will spend 50€ max for cooling but now i would go up to 100€ if it seems to be worth it.
I am also open to ideas for custom stuff.

Thanks in andvance.

 
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I've spent a considerable amount of time researching this subject, not necessarily for your price range but I might be able to provide you with some pointers:

You have 3 realistic cooling options:

1. Silent air (won't be THAT silent, reduced rotational speed = less noise = less performance)
2. Watercooling solutions (expensive)
3. Submerged systems (mineral oil, etc)

1. Finding a decent set of silent air fans is only part of the story. Your specific case layout and chassis will direct air towards points in the case where vibrations could be amplified, or other spots where they could introduce sympathetic vibrations as a side effect. Using fans will involve a lot of secondary vibration damping such as silicone membranes, and resistors...

gaymer1984

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I've spent a considerable amount of time researching this subject, not necessarily for your price range but I might be able to provide you with some pointers:

You have 3 realistic cooling options:

1. Silent air (won't be THAT silent, reduced rotational speed = less noise = less performance)
2. Watercooling solutions (expensive)
3. Submerged systems (mineral oil, etc)

1. Finding a decent set of silent air fans is only part of the story. Your specific case layout and chassis will direct air towards points in the case where vibrations could be amplified, or other spots where they could introduce sympathetic vibrations as a side effect. Using fans will involve a lot of secondary vibration damping such as silicone membranes, and resistors to reduce the fan voltage and therefore rotation speed.

Given how dedicated you are to the silence, I doubt this will be silent enough for you. This is without even considering the silence of the PSU...

2. Watercooling is the most realistic and prevalent option out there for hitting that sweet spot of performance and silence. Your two biggest sources of noise with this scenario are the reservoir (which you can eliminate if you instead use a T-junction, recommended for silent loops but very, very messy) and the pump used to circulate your coolant.

Luckily, its quite easy to dampen the pump and isolate a good deal of its vibration from being heard. Simple solutions include mounting the pump inside the case on a block of medium density foam. More complex solutions involve suspending the pump from a hard drive tray using elastic.

3. The most radical option is to buy a case designed to accommodate all your equipment submerged under a non-electrically conductive liquid. Mineral oil is a great example, and you will still have spinning fans but the rotation speed will be negligible. The danger here is dissipating enough heat: most systems involve the upper surface completely exposed (prone to dust) and emitting heat into the atmosphere. More advanced systems include secondary conductive radiators that drain heat away from the submerging vessel (think like heat pipes) to improve the thermal performance of the solution.

My personal recommendation would be watercooling, but depending on how much money you wish to put into such a venture and exactly how silent you want it to be, you could be spending over $1500 on an entirely silent setup. My advice to you is to use what I've said, and what other people will say, as a starting point for your own research. In the end, I can advise you all day as to what I'd do - but you'll have to be happy sinking your money into a solution to get what you want.

Good luck!
 
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skywere

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hey,

i would say to look into big air coolers, a friend of mine has a be quiet! Dark Rock Pro with 14 heat pipes and he says it is really quiet (the name says it all) even with an overclock.
you write your budget in euro so i assume you are from Europe, you can find these on amazon.de

-skywere
 

noTGF1

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Thanks very much for your answers gaymer and skywere.
Ok, I expected that that it would cost much money to find a good cooling solution, but i had to ask if I was maybe overlooking something.
Watercooling:
I would maybe go as far as spend 100€ on an CorsAir H100 Watercooler, but i heard that they are loud, and maybe crap overall?^^
And i stunbled upon some people saying, that i could benefit from a towercooler by cooling the vrm additionally.. ist that true?

I think i might go into strange direction, dampen the noise as far as i can and go for a good Headset, or something like that.

Maybe a solution where i put sounddampening materials just all around the space where my rig is standing? Just like that stuff they use in Music studios maybe.
A friend of mine who studies Trumpet, said he used egg carton and some other cheap stuff in one of the rooms of his flats, and his neighbours, can't hear him anymore and it was surprising how well it worked with very cheap materials..
I can imagine that mabye the ambient temperature would go up a little in there..

Minear oil:
Can you give me an example maybe what stuff exactly i can use for that. Do i need much of it? Is it expensive?
I saw those things, and they look pretty messy. Can it be toxic or dangerous in any way?

And yes I am form Austria, my best scources are Amazon.de and www.e-tec.at

Thanks again.
 

gaymer1984

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Self-contained watercooling products like the H100 never achieve the same performance as custom built rigs, but they add the comfort of a closed loop - which means no spills or refills (unless you damage it) the H100 is not quiet.

The VRM is increasingly becoming a component worth cooling, yes. There are custom motherboard-specific watercooling blocks made specifically for VRMs. Again, unless your budget can expand I doubt you'll be able to afford to include them in your solution straight away.

Sound damping materials inside the case contribute towards heat buildup, so in a watercooling situation that is a trade off many people can't tolerate. Soundproofing materials outside the main rig tower may cut off air circulation in fan-assisted solutions and contribute towards heat buildup. Egg cartons can be effective yes, if you are just looking to keep the sound inside your own room and not let it travel to another room. It won't stop you from being able to hear it in the same room.

The solutions so far don't include what to do about the PSU - nearly all of them are "semi-silent" or quite loud. A truly fanless PSU can be had - but they usually aren't cheap. The only way to eliminate the PSU noise would be to submerge it in mineral oil along with everything else - but this can be very, very dangerous.

I really think you should invest some time into researching the costs involved in trying to go silent. I am convinced you either need to set your sights lower or increase your budget. There are decent "semi-silent" PSUs that are relatively cheap, there are half-decent fans which will be "quiet" but getting towards real silence? I don't think its possible with your price range.
 

noTGF1

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I decided to keep things low, and maybe not even try to overclock. For what i want to do, the fx6300 should be just fine anyway.
Custom watercooling equipment is actually not that easy to find in my area^^.

I will at least have the Grafics card making Noise anyway, because i couldn't find any waterblocks for it. (
I read that both ASUS and MSI GTX 660 are both under 30dB under load. (http://www.behardware.com/articles/876-5/review-nvidia-geforce-gtx-660-asus-directcu-ii-top-and-sli.html)
If this sounds something like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaXVrCFvL94 at 0:55
I should be happy.

CPU Cooler, maybe i just go with the Noctuna NH-D14, which seems to have as good reputation as the CM EVO 212 , but quieter.. In Most reviews, it looks like the NH-D14 will stay under 20 dBA.

Could you mabye just give me another advice for a PSU that does not cost too much and maybe will stay under20dBA(25dBa or something like that) as well?

In the end, it should still be far better than my ASUS G60vx.

Thx very much for answering.
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