Replaced Graphics Card, Computer won't boot from new card.

Kimpten · Mar 11, 2014

I am looking for some suggestions. I have replaced my Nvidia GT 520 Graphics Card with a Nvidia GTX 650. I forgot to uninstall the drivers first. I have since then Uninstalled the drivers for both cards just incase, and reinstalled the GTX 650. I also had to replace the PSU with sadly a Dynex 520W. It looks like the highest 12V though is 18A. When Powering on the Computer if the new card is in the slot and has the power supply running to it. It does two different things. One it beeps slowly at me for about 4-5 beeps then powers down. Or sometimes it just makes long and continuous beeps. I can power up the computer with the PSU not connected to the board using the onboard integrated graphics. The Fan on the graphics card will run. If I plug in the power to the graphics board as the computer is running I can detect it in Device Manager. But I get a Code 12 Error. I do not know how to find the IRQs that pertaining to the card or anything so not sure how to proceed on that. But even if I get the Code 12 fixed so that it reads it properly, would that fix my bootup issues. If not I technically have two seperate problems. Also I have been told possibly Memory bad, I have not checked it or not. But if I put in the Original 520 card I have absolutely no issues. This was a Store bought computer from Best Buy a couple of years ago. I know that was a mistake but I did not believe the issues were going to be this much of a headache. Its an HP Pavilion H8-1114. Also I tried looking in the Bios but the bios on the machine is a slimed down version or something because there is only a handful of things you can even do with it. I have seen way more inclusive bios. If you need anything else let me know I am sure I am missing something important to the diagnosing of this.

hang-the-9 · Mar 11, 2014

Check the PCIe version on your motherboard, some PCIe 1.0 motherboards have known issues with newer PCIe cards. I'd also try a different power supply and upgrade the BIOS on the system if there is a newer one.

The issue you may end up with is if the power supply is not good enough to run the system and the card, you can kill the video card. I killed my beloved Radeon 9800 Pro one day because I forgot to plug in the secondary power one time after I installed some new components.

tcb1005 · Mar 11, 2014

I actually doubt it is your PSU. I have several computers, one of them is an older Dell XPS7100. It has a 460 watt PSU, 6 core AMD Phenom II, etc, and I decided to upgrade it from a Radeon 5450 to a GTX660 last year. If I could get that card to run on a 460 watt Dell PSU, I think you could have the GTX650 run offf of a 520 watt PSU, even though it is not a good brand. As the 650 only requires a 400 watt PSU, and your other card works fine, I think your card may be DOA.

tcb1005 · Mar 11, 2014

As for error code 12, I found this discussion. https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/546039/can-anyone-fix-this-problem-/?offset=2

hang-the-9 · Mar 11, 2014

tcb1005 :

Dell actually uses a higher quality PSU than the Dynex he has, especially in the XPS series. That 520W rating is more like 400. The 520 has a lot lower power requirements than the 650.

If you can try the 650 in another system that is OK to run it, it will help figure out where the issue is.

Kimpten · Mar 11, 2014

I am testing the graphics card in a friends computer over my lunch break in a few hours. Will update as to how that goes. The motherboard has PCIe 2.0 slots and the card uses 3.0. Though that sounds like it will still work. He said that his PSU is 1000W so should be plenty big with the hopes of deciding if that is the issue or not. You also mentioned updating the BIOS that has been done. Luckily if the Card is DOA Its still covered under bestbuy as I jsut bought it, and it apparently has a Lifetime Guarantee.

hang-the-9 :

Kimpten · Mar 11, 2014

tcb1005 :

I attempted to do this before, the issue I ran into is under the properties from the Device Manager I never saw anything about Troubleshooting. So I went into the Action Center and was able to do the troubleshooting from there. After going through it, It just told me that there was a conflict and that one needed to be disabled. However, It never said which two devices were conflicting with each other. Obviously the Graphics card I just installed but what else.

tcb1005 · Mar 11, 2014

Kimpten :

tcb1005 :

I attempted to do this before, the issue I ran into is under the properties from the Device Manager I never saw anything about Troubleshooting. So I went into the Action Center and was able to do the troubleshooting from there. After going through it, It just told me that there was a conflict and that one needed to be disabled. However, It never said which two devices were conflicting with each other. Obviously the Graphics card I just installed but what else.

Did you uninstall Intel HD graphic's drivers?

Kimpten · Mar 11, 2014

tcb1005 :

I do believe I uninstalled the Graphics Drivers first. I will double check tonight though as I am not positive and will attempt to do this again, with making sure i uninstall the drivers first. I just don't remember so going down the safe road and try it again.

hang-the-9 · Mar 11, 2014

If you were running the nVidia 520 before, you should not have to change the drivers. That is for new cards of a different brand. The 520 is probably running on the same driver as the new one will be.

Kimpten · Mar 11, 2014

So I have an update. I just tested the GTX 650 in a friends computer that had a 500W PSU I did not catch the Brand Name though. It worked perfectly with no issues. So that tells me the issue is either with the Power Supply or could the Code 12 that is coming up in my Device manager cause the card not to boot?

tcb1005 · Mar 11, 2014

I blame the Power supply. I recommend that your replace your PSU with this. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151119

Kimpten · Mar 11, 2014

Ok so it sounds like it might be the power supply so I guess I will look into getting a power supply and seeing if that works.

tcb1005 · Mar 11, 2014

Kimpten :

Make sure that you buy a Power supply from seasonic or corsair. The other brands simply do not do well and are unreliable. XFX PSUs and EVGA are good, but I think they cost the same or a bit more in EVGA's case.

Kimpten · Mar 12, 2014

tcb1005 :

I replaced the power supply with the one you suggested. Same issues as before, power supply is obviously not the issue. Next?

tcb1005 · Mar 12, 2014

Does it still beep?

Kimpten · Mar 12, 2014

tcb1005 :

Yes

tcb1005 · Mar 12, 2014

It may be a GPU problem then. Who manufactured your GPU?

Kimpten · Mar 12, 2014

tcb1005 :

It's a PNY GEFORCE GTX 650 performance edition 2gb gddr5.

First beep starts about 15 seconds after start up and continues with 30 seconds or so in between each beep.

Graphics card worked in a friends computer just fine. Put it in and started right up. So it would be hard to believe the GPU would be bad.

Kimpten · Mar 12, 2014

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e268/s_adams2010/photo_zps687e9f2a.jpg

This is where my computer boots up to and it stays in this screen. I cannot click esc.

tcb1005 · Mar 12, 2014

This is really odd. There must be something conflicting in your software.

Kimpten · Mar 12, 2014

[strike][/strike]

tcb1005 :

Any idea to tell what?

hang-the-9 · Mar 13, 2014

If the card works in another system, it may be the motherboard. Check for a BIOS update and check what revision of the PCIe bus you have on it.

You can test the card with a Linux boot disk also if you have an image on the screen at all when you plug it in. That will tell you if it's something with Windows or at the BIOS level.

rayzz94 · Mar 13, 2014

hang-the-9 :

actualy his PSU is more like 220-250W cuz it have 18A on 12V rail which is total of 216W

for difference http://img.fcenter.ru/imgmat/article/PSU/Seasonic_cheap_gold/195264.jpg this seasonic PSU is rated at 360W and it can handle 360W on 12V rail,thats more enough for almost any newer PC with single GPU

@Kimpten try reseting bios, meybe it will work.

Kimpten · Mar 13, 2014

rayzz94 :

The current version of the Bios is at 7.16, I notice I have another computer with the exact same as system prior to the GPU and PSU upgrades, and it is running the 7.14 bios. This Bios has more options, at this point I am willing to try anything. I want to possibly take the Bios From that machine and stick it on my machine I am upgrading to see if I can get it to work on the old Bios. Just a thought to try. Is that even possible to pull the Bios from one machine and can the HP bios be downgraded?

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