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Stefan Abad

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Guys i need help on this build that I'm planning to do its kinda like an
Intel vs AMD, and I'm really having a hard time choosing between the two.

AMD Build:

CPU: AMD FX 6300 3.5ghz (Black Edition)
$124

Motherboard: am3+ Gigabyte 970A DS3P
$87

Ram: ram: G.Skill RipJaws X 8gb ddr3 1866 CL9 (F3 14900CL10S 8GBXL)
$110

Video Card: HIS Radeon R9 270X IceQ X2 iTurbo 2gb/256bit
$213

HDD: Seagate 1tb (ST1000DM003) 64mb sata
$64

PSU: HEC Cougar SL 600watts 80% efficiency
$48

Case: NZXT Source 210 Elite
$45

= $691



Intel Build:

CPU: Intel Core i5 4440 3.1-3.3Ghz (Quad Core) Haswell
$193

Motherboard: Gigabyte B85M D3H
$82

Ram: ram: G.Skill RipJaws X 8gb ddr3 1866 CL9 (F3 14900CL10S 8GBXL)
$110

Video Card: Palit GTX 750 Ti StormX, Dual, 2gb/128bit, OC Ed
$188

HDD: Seagate 1tb (ST1000DM003) 64mb sata
$64

PSU: HEC Cougar SL 600watts 80% efficiency
$48

Case: NZXT Source 210 Elite
$45

= $729



Intel Build:

Pros:

Newer Generation
Lower TDP
Motherboard is Pcie 3.0
Has Low PSU Requirement


Cons:

Quad Core
Lower Clock-speed
Much more Expensive just a bit $38



AMD Build:

Pros:

Six Cores
Higher Clock Speed
Cheaper
Faster Video Card Selected

Cons:

Motherboard is Pcie 2.0
Has Higher TDP
Requires Higher PSU

or i could put the R9 270X on the Intel build but I'm
seeing good advantages if i would go with the Six Core
CPU but then again the mother board only has a pcie 2.0
slot and personally i'd prefer to use the Pcie 3.0 GPU
on a Pcie 3.0 Slot rather running it on a 2.0 one

so what do you think between the two?
which has more bang for your buck, and
which of the two has a better performance.
 
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I would choose the Intel option, why? Because, if you would upgrade your GPU in the future, it will hold a high end GPU better than AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz.
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Exactly so i could just slap on the Intel build the HIS Radeon R9 270X IceQ X2 iTurbo 2gb/256bit and just suck up the price difference for better performance and also for my motherboard to become sorta kinda future proof? hahaha! really am confused because this is my first ever personal build cause I'm seeing the advantages of having more cores but then again i would have a mobo that only has pcie 2.0 slot. lol.
 
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*Let me clear up some confusion:

1) The Intel i5-4440 is on average MUCH better than the FX-6300 so that info is incorrect.

2) The AMD CPU is cheaper however, which allows a better graphics card.

The result of this is that some games will run BETTER on the Intel setup, and some will run better on the AMD setup. It will even vary in the same game, such as in Starcraft 2. Once a battle ramps up the weaker CPU may start throttling things so your game frame rate drops regardless of the graphics card.

The advantage of the Intel setup is that if you add a better graphics card later it won't bottleneck the card as much as the FX-6300.

I'll put together a build and see what I can do...
 
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$700 USD build: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/384Kk

I apologize if you aren't in the USA, so I hope this still applies.

Build comments:

1) i5-4440
After further looking I strongly recommend this CPU for the reasons I and others have discussed. Swap in a different card in a couple years and this PC should last quite a while.

2) Asus motherboard:
Great quality board that's not expensive.

3) DDR3 memory.
Not much to say here.

4) CPU cooler: I included one as the stock gets noisy under load.

5) Graphics card:
I recommend the ASUS version. It overclocks to about 10% (limited by Power Management for the card, not the card itself). It stays fairly quiet at this overclock. In fact, it's noticeably quiet than any other card at this performance level.

6) HDD:
Not much to say here. 1TB HDD with good reviews.

7) Power Supply:
Customer reviews seemed good. It's suitable. I've heard others complain about this series just FYI. You can investigate further if you wish.

OTHER:
Windows wasn't mentioned, nor was a DVD player so I never included one. I strongly recommend Windows 8 64-bit OEM if you need to buy one ($90), and Start8 ($5) to bypass the new interface (can still access it).

Conclusion:
A good PC for gaming is all about BALANCE. I think this is the best balance for the present and future.

I also concentrated on CUSTOMER FEEDBACK for parts, as well as noise (CPU cooler, Asus graphics card).
 
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Thank You so much! response was very helpful. appreciate it bro! :D thing is I'm located in the Philippines so availability of parts here is awful actually for that build i just depended on one store that i trust
http://www.tipidpc.com/useritems.php?username=PCHub
so yeah lets go with the intel build but what about the GPU
HIS Radeon R9 270X IceQ X2 iTurbo 2gb/256bit
or the
Palit GTX 750 Ti StormX, Dual, 2gb/128bit, OC Ed
 
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The R9-270X will give slightly higher performance, however it also costs more. Here's a SUMMARY of several games for a fair comparison: http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GTX_750_Ti_OC/25.html

So the 270X averages 34% faster, in other words it gets 67FPS when the 750Ti would get 50FPS.

Now both cards will have overclocking capability, and you SHOULD within reason. I think the GTX750Ti might overclock slightly more. It was limited to a 10% overclock but NVidia just released a driver update to go past that since people were easily achieving this on all the cards (it was set in the drivers). Driver version 335.23.

The GTX750Ti uses the new Maxwell GPU and is the most power efficient GPU to date so it should overclock better than the AMD GPU, though that will just close the gap slightly so at best there may be a 20% difference when comparing both overclocked. Just an educated guess.

NVidia also has SHADOWPLAY if you care about recording video gameplay.

For the most part it's about VALUE. The R9-270X is faster but you have to pay for that, so you'll have to decide if it's worth it to you.
 
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Therefore I have concluded the Version 1.0 of my Build (Subject to change due to availability)

CPU: Intel Core i5 4440 3.1-3.3Ghz (Quad Core) Haswell

Motherboard: Asus B85M G

Ram: G.Skill RipJaws X 8gb ddr3 1866 CL9 (F3 14900CL10S 8GBXL)

Video Card: HIS Radeon R9 270X IceQ X2 iTurbo 2gb/256bit

HDD: Seagate 1tb (ST1000DM003) 64mb sata

PSU: HEC Cougar SL 600watts 80% efficiency

Case: NZXT Source 210 1,990 (Pc Hub)

= $758 (Pc Hub) Philippines pricing

Pc Store Parts Source:
http://www.tipidpc.com/useritems.php?username=PCHub
 
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Nice build, except TWO problems and a comment:

Problem #1:
You should get TWO sticks of 4GB, not a single 8GB stick or you'll lose a little performance from the CPU.

Problem #2:
That POWER SUPPLY seems to have problems. I suggest you Google any PSU you intend to buy carefully as it's VERY important that it be reliable.
Reference: See customer comments-> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817553019

Other:
Just FYI, but that graphics card can't be reliably overclocked any further whereas the GTX750Ti can. The R9-270X will still be faster by a fair amount. Reference: http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2013/12/16/his-r9-270x-turbo-review/11

I doubt this changes your mind, but as per the above link do NOT overclock that card. It's already overclocked to the max and anything you do will likely just cause problems.
 
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Thanks man! Appreciate your help! :D hahaha! more question to come here in a couple of days. ill research first.
 
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