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16 Years Old New to Computers, Need Help.

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March 11, 2014 9:52:14 PM

Hi guys I recently have been looking up computers and want to buy a gaming pc. I basically know nothing, or maybe just a buy above average and am not sure what to do. I plan on running mostly steam games and mainly Smite (a MOBA). I was going to buy a Alienware X51 i7 Computer but was told it is much easier to build one and it would be much cheaper. Over the past months i have watched pc videos and even some builds. I looked online and found a build that might be decent. I want to be able to run smite at least on the highest settings, minecraft and maybe even some other high end games. (Not necesarilly on the highst). Here are the parts:

NZXT M59 Classic Series ATX Mid Tower interior chassis M59-001BK (Black)


Kingston HyperX Blu 8GB (1x8 GB Module) 1600MHz 240-pin DDR3 Non-ECC CL10 Desktop Memory KHX1600C10D3B1​/8G


Seagate Barracuda 7200 500 GB 7200RPM SATA 3Gb/s 16MB Cache 3.5 Inch Internal Hard Drive ST3500418AS-Ba​re Drive


Intel Core i5-4430 Quad-Core Desktop Processor 3.0 GHz 6 MB Cache LGA 1150 - BX80646I54430


ASUS GTX760-DC2OC-2​GD5 GeForce GTX760 2GB GDDR5 256-bit, DVI-I/DVI-D/ HDMI/DP PCI-Express 3.0 SLI ready Graphic Card OC-selected 1072 MHz core


Samsung Optical Drive SH-224DB/BEBE


Gigabyte LGA 1150 Intel H81 USB3.0 SATA 6G/S D-Sub HDMI mATX Motherboard GA-H81M-S2PH


XFX ATX 550 Power Supply - P1550SXXB9

According to amazon, this would run me about 800 dollars. Which is about what the alienware costs. I also could decide not to get the optical drive, which would make it around 60 dollars cheaper. Should i build it myself or just get the ore-built one? Help!!

Also, if anyone can help me with a new build that is cheaper, I would be very thankful. I also need a gaming headset and a monitor, although the monitor is questionable.

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March 11, 2014 10:07:18 PM

If you have the money and are happy with the Alienware system -> Buy it.
If you want to build your own and/or you dont have much money -> Build it.

Im far from an expert. Just my 2cents. (:
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March 11, 2014 10:14:54 PM

better to build ur own and spend that xtra money on accessories :D 
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March 11, 2014 10:18:26 PM

whats ur budget we can help u build 1!
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March 11, 2014 10:18:58 PM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4440 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($174.29 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock B85 Pro4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport XT 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital RE3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.94 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($328.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Thermaltake Commander MS-I Epic Edition (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $793.17
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-03-12 01:17 EDT-0400)

My take on the best bang for 800 usd you can get.
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March 11, 2014 10:22:55 PM

a decent build for a beginner. Only thing I would suggest is 1TB HDD, not much more that 500GB, but you'll need it, possibly better GPU.
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March 11, 2014 10:39:50 PM

Looking at your component list, Intel Core i5-4670K is a worthwhile upgrade. For the RAM, I would suggest 1866 CL9 instead. Also, for a little extra money a larger hard drive will come in very handy.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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March 12, 2014 5:01:51 AM

terry4536 said:
Looking at your component list, Intel Core i5-4670K is a worthwhile upgrade. For the RAM, I would suggest 1866 CL9 instead. Also, for a little extra money a larger hard drive will come in very handy.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Why would two 4GB ram be better than one stick of 8GB? I'm pretty new at this so i want to learn to. :) 
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March 12, 2014 5:04:01 AM

combine1237 said:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4440 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($174.29 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock B85 Pro4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport XT 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital RE3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.94 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($328.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Thermaltake Commander MS-I Epic Edition (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $793.17
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-03-12 01:17 EDT-0400)

My take on the best bang for 800 usd you can get.


How would this run max setting on games like Smite, Dota, Spore... Occasionally the COD or something of the like?
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March 12, 2014 2:55:32 PM

Although the motherboard will run on a single stick of RAM, it is designed to run on a pair of RAM sticks. Also it gives you an extra margin of system stability. If one stick fails, then you still have another stick to prevent a system crash.
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March 13, 2014 5:44:55 PM

That build above should be able to almost max out bf4 at 1080p for 60fps, so yes pretty much anything current gen it will max out. The only suggestion is overclockable processor especially if you want to play emulators like dolphin.
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March 13, 2014 10:56:58 PM

combine1237 said:
That build above should be able to almost max out bf4 at 1080p for 60fps, so yes pretty much anything current gen it will max out. The only suggestion is overclockable processor especially if you want to play emulators like dolphin.


Would you be referring to the build I specified? Or the build that "combine" said?
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April 4, 2014 11:09:18 PM

Do you have a job at the age 16 because I am 16 and I think I need one.
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April 6, 2014 4:21:33 AM

terry4536 said:
Although the motherboard will run on a single stick of RAM, it is designed to run on a pair of RAM sticks. Also it gives you an extra margin of system stability. If one stick fails, then you still have another stick to prevent a system crash.


Sorry, but that's not correct. What you are talking about would require mirroring the data on one stick to the other for protection, which is just not done as it's pointless. ie. because on the rare occasion that RAM fails, the worst that can happen is your computer switches off and you lose part of your work or game save. It's more likely you'll have a power failure in your house with the same effect! Mirroring the RAM would give you half the RAM, as it does in RAID HDD mirroring. HDD mirroring is important, because HDD fail more often and you lose everything on the HDD (eg. 1TB), vs a bit of temporary RAM data.

What 2 sticks of RAM does, is enable Dual Channel mode, which increases the speed at which data can be read/written to the RAM and is generally recommended over 1 stick.

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April 6, 2014 3:19:52 PM

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Sorry, but that's not correct. What you are talking about would require mirroring the data on one stick to the other for protection, which is just not done as it's pointless. ie. because on the rare occasion that RAM fails, the worst that can happen is your computer switches off and you lose part of your work or game save. It's more likely you'll have a power failure in your house with the same effect! Mirroring the RAM would give you half the RAM, as it does in RAID HDD mirroring. HDD mirroring is important, because HDD fail more often and you lose everything on the HDD (eg. 1TB), vs a bit of temporary RAM data.

What 2 sticks of RAM does, is enable Dual Channel mode, which increases the speed at which data can be read/written to the RAM and is generally recommended over 1 stick.

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You said that it will " enable Dual Channel mode". I said " it is designed to run on a pair of RAM sticks". A self described sixteen year old that's new to computers isn't going to know what dual channel mode is. And I doubt he cares.

If you have two RAM sticks, and one stick goes bad then you can remove it and run on one stick until you can purchase more. That statement is perfectly true. I didn't say a thing about "mirroring the data on one stick to the other for protection", you did.
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