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March 13, 2014 1:39:17 PM

2 days ago I installed a second gpu in my case to test crossfire. After powering on the system it went off again within a second.
After putting everything back the way it was before and powering on again I only got into the bios with no working usb. I googled and found out that my mobo was probably damaged and decided to order a new one.
When I installed the new mobo and powered on my system wouldn't boot, nor would the harddisk spin. My ssd and hdd also wouldn't show up in the bios under storage. I tried to connect it to another psu to see what would happen... nothing.
So is my hdd dead now, and if so is there a (cheap) way of extracting the data of especially the hdd?

Relevant specs:
GPU: Sapphire Radeon HD 7870
second GPU:Club 3D Radeon HD 7870 (The gpu i added to test crossfire)

PSU: Nexus 630 watt

Storage:
1 TB hdd
128 GB ssd

Old MoBo: Asrock Extreme3 970
New MoBo: Asrock Extreme3 970 R2.0

Hope you guys can help me.

-Jason

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March 13, 2014 1:46:05 PM

If a part goes out, especially a main part like a PSU or motherboard, it can take the HDD with it. I have seen it before.

Problem is that if the HDD doesn't even spin up, you wont be able to get data off of it yourself. You will have to utilize a recovery professional who uses a clean room to take the platters out and read the data off of them. They are not cheap though. Easily a couple hundred dollars.
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March 13, 2014 2:00:32 PM

Hey Jimmy,

Thanks for the fast reply. I was afraid to get such an answer... I guess thats it then, I will look into the pricing but there is nothing on the disk that I need back right away. Just allot of personal data. I will look for new storage first. What a unlucky week hehe



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March 14, 2014 12:16:58 AM

If the HDD doesn't spin up, then it most probably has a PCB fault. If so, then that's usually an easy fix.

What is the model number of the HDD?
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March 14, 2014 1:48:57 AM

fzabkar said:
If the HDD doesn't spin up, then it most probably has a PCB fault. If so, then that's usually an easy fix.

What is the model number of the HDD?


Hey,

I have a Seagate Barracuda ST1000DM003. Note that also my ssd is not showing up.
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March 14, 2014 1:47:53 PM

If an overvoltage killed both devices, then it would have had to have come via the +5V rail. That's because consumer grade SSDs don't usually require +12V.

In the case of the Seagate, there would be a shorted 5V TVS diode plus two open circuited zero-ohm resistors. The fix is to remove the diode and flow a blob of solder over each resistor. That should cost you nothing.

In the case of the SSD, we would need to see a detailed photo of both sides. Hopefully it, too, will have some kind of protection.

See http://www.users.on.net/~fzabkar/HDD/TVS_diode_FAQ.html

Here are the relevant protection components in a 2TB Seagate drive:

http://www.users.on.net/~fzabkar/HDD/ST2000DM001_TVS.jp...
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March 14, 2014 1:57:09 PM

fzabkar said:
If an overvoltage killed both devices, then it would have had to have come via the +5V rail. That's because consumer grade SSDs don't usually require +12V.

In the case of the Seagate, there would be a shorted 5V TVS diode plus two open circuited zero-ohm resistors. The fix is to remove the diode and flow a blob of solder over each resistor. That should cost you nothing.

In the case of the SSD, we would need to see a detailed photo of both sides. Hopefully it, too, will have some kind of protection.

See http://www.users.on.net/~fzabkar/HDD/TVS_diode_FAQ.html

Here are the relevant protection components in a 2TB Seagate drive:

http://www.users.on.net/~fzabkar/HDD/ST2000DM001_TVS.jp...


That's expecting people to have soldering skills, which these days is not as common.

If not the other solution is if you can find the same model number HDD, same firmware as well, you can swap the PCB to the bad one and it should work.

Just to give you a price range this is a company I have had other customers use that is pretty decent:

http://www.datarecoverymasters.com/hard_drive_recovery....

I think most are around that cost ($200-$500) because the equipment they have plus the clean room (if dust gets on the platter it can damage it) are not cheap.

If you feel confident doing the solder method though, go for it but it still may not work as the over voltage on the HDD could have also damaged the motor or it could have also fried a actual chip (I have seen where a chip on the PCB got fried and started smoking).

As for the SSD, the biggest problem is that the PCB is also where the NAND flash is so unlike the HDD where the PCB is separate from the data storage portion, if it is damaged fixing it might not be as easy and I am not even sure about data recovery on a SSD. Of course I assume the SSD was OS and applications like most people do.
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March 14, 2014 2:05:12 PM

A straight PCB swap in recent Seagate models (since 7200.11) will never work, even if the firmware versions are identical, and even if both drives were manufactured side by side in the same factory on the same day. That's because each drive has unique, drive specific "adaptive" data stored in flash memory. These "adaptives" need to be transferred from patient to donor.

If the OP needs a PCB, then my recommendation is to purchase a PCB plus "firmware transfer" service from either of the following companies. The cost will be US$50.

http://www.onepcbsolution.com/
http://www.hdd-parts.com/
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March 15, 2014 11:32:22 AM

I don't really feel comfortable at trying to solder the circuit of the hdd. But I might try to get a new PCB.
As for the ssd, I am not going to put allot of effort in it, it only contained the os and apps. I might get a new one trough waranty if I can find out where I ordered it...


Thanks for all the information!
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