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March 13, 2014 5:04:49 PM

Hey all, I have used this forum to get helpful insight for many years and finally decided to join and start a topic, I tend to babble a lot but I will try to be (somewhat) short and to the point. This is technically my 2nd time building a pc but it was about 7 years ago so I'm a little rusty haha. I have been debating this build for many months and cant figure out exactly what I want/need. I have a budget of up to $3000 but if the goals I listed below could be met without reaching that price point, I would gladly save the money for some future upgrades instead.

Approximate Purchase Date: Within next two weeks

Budget Range: Up to $3000

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Live streaming games, Moderate amount of video editing/rendering

Are you buying a monitor: No

Parts to Upgrade: Need all, building from scratch.

Do you need to buy OS: Yes

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Newegg and Amazon (currently have free trial of prime) but will consider any site.

Location: Eastern Coast of the US

Parts Preferences: Intel and Nvidia

Overclocking: Maybe

SLI or Crossfire: Maybe

Your Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080

Additional Comments:
-Looking to get a computer that is capable of streaming on twitch in 720p @ 60fps. I will be using the program OBS and want to play in 1080p @ 60fps while downscaling the stream to 720. My current Upload is 5.5 Mbps

-I will be using a 3 monitor setup but only using the main screen to actually game on. The other two will just be used for productive tasks.

-Games to be streamed: mostly Moba, Mmo, and Rts games, Not likely to play shooter games. I will also be using a capture card to stream some Xbox and Wii games.

-I will be editing and rendering a couple hours worth of footage a week.

-Would prefer the pc to be fairly silent, but it isn't a necessity.

Last note: I'm horrible at reaching a reasonable price to performance ratio. I always end up choosing to get higher end hardware that I don't need due to the fear of getting too low or soon to be outdated hardware that will cost me a poor stream quality or uncomfortably long rendering times. I came here in hopes of reaching a nice balance where my machine can easily handle all of the above tasks without being overkill.

I recently threw this build together but feel that some of it is overkill (motherboard as an example) and some might not be productive enough (single hard drive)

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-4930K 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor ($579.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($97.16 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus Rampage IV Black Edition EATX LGA2011 Motherboard ($510.19 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($179.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($139.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($84.81 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($328.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Corsair 900D ATX Full Tower Case ($279.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: Corsair Professional Gold 1200W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($309.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($84.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $2616.04
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-03-13 19:56 EDT-0400)

Thanks for taking the time to read this, I really do appreciate it.

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March 13, 2014 9:29:49 PM

Key33,

Your list contains components that are among the highest performing and though my fate is chained to Xeon workstations, I would also choose a LGA2011 CPU whenever possible- greater bandwidth, more PCIe lanes, more memory controllers. since the 4930K can be overclocked, there's no reason to spend more on the 4960X - so the 4930K is a great choice from the cost / benefit viewpoint.

In Passmark Performance Test baselines, the ASUS Rampage is prominent among the "Top 100" > the best systems measured. Looking at the others in that category it seems clear that the X79 is on the top rung of the ladder for LGA2011.

That said, it appears to me from the layout of the PCIe 3.0 X16 slots that the Black version of the Rampage is geared towards a triple of even quad SLI, which begs the question of how likely it would be that your future SLI would include a quad configuration. I'm not an expert on SLI, but my memory of tests is that the cost / benefit of SLI drops off fairly quickly after two cards.

In this view, it may be worth considering another very good X79 motherboard >

ASUS P9X79 LGA 2011 Intel X79 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

http://www.amazon.com/ASUS-P9X79-2011-Intel-Motherboard...

> which at $243 is specified to still accommodate a quad SLI, and also is present in the Passmark Top 100. There are of course other X79 versions including the Pro and Sabertooth. If I were building a workstation with a single Xeon, I'd strongly consider the P9X79 WS.

The pleasant aspect of this is that there is a $260 difference from the Rampage may be applied to a second GTX 770. It seems likely that the only slightly lesser performance of the P9X79 - and the deletion of the remote control overclocking device is not serious in performance terms, while a second GPU would more than compensate, and in particular I'm thinking of your triple monitor configuration. Also, I believe that having a total of 4GB video memory will be a far greater benefit to you editing use than the higher rated motherboard.

Also, one other item that may be on the mildly overkill list is that I think a 1200W PSU may not be necessary with a 130W CPU, and 2X GTX 770 which are about 230W each. Perhaps >

CORSAIR HX Series HX1050 1050W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply > $250.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

> This PSU would be sufficient if you ever added a third GPU, and the additional $60 savings (+the $260 for the motherboard change) means that you could start with a dual GPU system for almost exactly the same cost as the single GPU with the Rampage motherboard. And, I believe the dual GPU combination that would perform at a higher level than the single CPU configuration even with the motherboard change. The Rampage does include some enhanced features- the slots and the remote control overclocking device, but in the end is using the same chipset and sill support the same RAM and CPU overclocking .

Anyway, that's my cost / benefit take on your system idea. You're very modest about your knowledge and skills in choosing, but you've obviously studied- well done!

Cheers,

BambiBoom

HP z420 (2014) > Xeon E5-1620 quad core @ 3.6 / 3.8GHz > 24GB ECC 1600 RAM > Quadro 4000 (2GB)> Samsung 840 SSD 250GB /Western Digital WD1003FZEX 1TB> M-Audio 192 sound card > AE3000 USB WiFi > HP 2711X, 27" 1920 X 1080 > Windows 7 Ultimate 64 >[Passmark system rating = 3815, 2D= 767 / 3D=2044]

Dell Precision T5400 (2008) > 2X Xeon X5460 quad core @3.16GHz > 16GB ECC 667> Quadro FX 4800 (1.5GB) > WD RE4 500GB / Seagate Barracuda 500GB > M-Audio 2496 Sound Card / Linksys 600N WiFi > Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit >[Passmark system rating = 1859, 2D= 512 / 3D=1097]

2D, 3D CAD, Image Processing, Rendering, Text > Architecture, industrial design, graphic design, written projects [AutoCad, 3ds Max, Vray, Solidworks, Sketchup Adobe CS, WordPerfect, MS Office]


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March 14, 2014 3:06:32 PM

For a 3000 budget get a 780ti.
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March 14, 2014 3:14:26 PM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-4930K 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor ($579.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Eisberg 240L Prestige 60.2 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($169.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus X79 DELUXE ATX LGA2011 Motherboard ($329.00 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Gaming Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($166.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($139.99 @ Best Buy)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($84.81 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB Video Card ($729.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 900D ATX Full Tower Case ($299.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 1000 P2 1000W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($199.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($94.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $2815.70
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-03-14 18:14 EDT-0400)
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March 14, 2014 8:41:57 PM

@Bambiboom Thank you so much for all the time you put into helping my build. You are very correct, I would in no way come close to utilizing all that the black edition offers. You are also correct about the psu, I was trying to ensure that if I ever decided to add a few more cards I would have plenty of wattage but the 1000W will be more than enough to handle what I am building.

@rymu2000 & FractalDesignCore: I didn't think I would need such a powerful graphics card for the type of games I planned to play. I was considering a 780ti (or 780 at least) just because I was unsure how running a game on the primary monitor while having browsers up on my 2nd and 3rd monitor would work. I guess it could help for future games too, it just seems that the mmo, moba, and rts games haven't been too demanding.

Also thanks for the part list Fractal, I have been comparing a lot of your parts to mine and think I will be making some changes thanks to your input.

I think I will have a final build figured out by tomorrow and I'll let you guys know what all I ended up ordering, but I had one last question: I have been in love with the looks and design of the corsair 900d for quite some time but the closer I get to purchasing it the more I think about how underused it will get from me. I will most likely only end up upgrading to a dual graphic card setup with very few hdd and sdd. I think I might be better off getting a smaller case to be more efficient. I have become very fond of the nzxt h440. I fear that it would get a little toasty for my build though consider I don't plan on bringing in a water loop for quite some time. I know the case just came out but do guys have any thoughts on how my build would work in a case with that little ventilation? I'm also open to any suggestions for other cases. I would prefer that the case you recommend has ample cable management, a simple clean look, and a promoter of good air flow. Thanks again guys!
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