No budget, High-End gaming system. Need help

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Approximate Purchase Date: ASAP

Budget Range: No budget

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, Internet, Programming and game development, movies, music, etc

Are you buying a monitor: Yes

Parts to Upgrade: Everything

Do you need to buy OS: Yes

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: http://alientech.pt/ / http://www.mbit.pt/ / http://novoatalho.pt/

Location: Porto, Portugal

Parts Preferences: No multi-gpu, crossfire or sli, just a single powerful gpu. Looking for a cool, quiet computer. Been an AMD fan until now and would like to go for Intel + Nvidia this time

Overclocking: Not at first, probably later on

SLI or Crossfire: No

Your Monitor Resolution: Main monitor 1080p or 1440p. Second monitor 1080p

And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: My current PC is old

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My current computer:

CASE • CM 690
MB • Asus ROG Crosshair IV Formula (BIOS v2101)
CPU • AMD Phenom II X6 1090T Black Edition
GPU • XFX Radeon HD 5970 Black Edition 4GB GDDR5
RAM • Kingston HyperX Genesis 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 1600MHz CL9
HDD (OS1) • [RAID 0] 2 x WD Caviar Black 1TB 7200RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6Gb/s
HDD (OS2) • WD Caviar Black 1TB 7200RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6Gb/s
PSU • Cooler Master Real Power M1000
COOLER (CPU) • Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus
OS1 • Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1
OS2 • Ubuntu 12.10 x64

MONITOR • LG Flatron E2350V-PN 23" LED Full HD 1080p


I'm going to keep my current monitor as a second monitor and buy a new one.
I don't need much storage, so I'll only be buying an SSD.

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Here's what I was thinking:

CASE • I want lots of space and good airflow. Also, it needs to be quiet. My current case makes a lot of metal noise because some metal grills vibrate next to each other.
EDIT: I was thinking about the Corsair Obsidian 750D. Does anyone know if it's silent? I considered the Cooler Master HAF X but I think maybe it will have the same metal vibration noise problem? :S (Also considered the Corsair Graphite 600T but it didn't seem big enough)
Will also need help picking additional fans, and help with fan control, etc

MB • Not very sure. I've always been a fan of Asus, but I don't know if it's the best choice. Was also considering Gigabyte

CPU • Intel Core i7-4770K

GPU • Asus GeForce GTX 780 Ti DirectCU II OC 3GB GDDR5 (apparently the same as the evga one, but maybe has better cooling?)

RAM • 16GB (2x8GB). I like Kingston. Do you think it's a good choice performance-wise? Would Corsair be better?

SSD • Samsung 840 Pro 512GB

PSU • Corsair AX860 80 PLUS Platinum Fully-Modular

COOLER (CPU) • I've never been a fan of water cooling. I don't know almost anything about cooling, but I was thinking of a Thermalright Silver Arrow. What do you think?

OS • Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64 Bits EN

MONITOR • Was thinking about the BenQ XL2720Z but the 27"-1080p ratio worries me a bit :S

MONITOR 2 • LG Flatron E2350V-PN 23" LED Full HD 1080p

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Thank you in advance!
 
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It sounds like you have a fairly good build so far. My only input would be on cooling. Noctua certainly has the best fans out there, although they aren't the prettiest. They have a surprisingly long warranty too.

As far as CPU coolers go, the Noctua NH-U14S is one of the better options out there, almost rivaling some water cooled CPU coolers.

As for the case, others may have a better opinion on that than myself.
 
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I forgot to add that regarding the case I was thinking about the Corsair Obsidian 750D. Does anyone know if it's silent? I considered the Cooler Master HAF X but I think maybe it will have the same metal vibration noise problem? :S

Also, John Lukitsh, do you have an opinion on Thermalright Silver Arrow? I've read it's pretty good.
 
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-4930K 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor ($568.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H110 94.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI X79A-GD45 Plus ATX LGA2011 Motherboard ($239.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 64GB (8 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($670.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($139.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($139.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($100.00 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($515.19 @ B&H)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($515.19 @ B&H)
Case: Cooler Master Cosmos II (Black) ATX Full Tower Case ($279.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Cooler Master V1000 1000W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($193.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24F1ST DVD/CD Writer ($21.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $3476.27
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-03-14 06:47 EDT-0400)

RAID 0 the SSD's for more performance.
 
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I wrote I don't want SLI or a HDD.
And why would a i7-4930K be better than the i7-4770K for gaming?
Also, what do you think of those Corsair H coolers? I heard they were pretty crappy.
 
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Why is an i7 4770K better then an i5 4670K for gaming? Not (maybe slightly because of the 0.1ghz clockspeed difference but is that worth the $100 extra).. (except for BF4 and Crysis 3 these games benefit from more threads).
I just saw No Budget and i went like aww yeah finally!

SLI i can understand these are power consuming monsters however you are going to want a HDD since SSD die after a "couple" of times of writing and rewriting stuff on em. So for storage (like music, images, games you don't play a lot and you will most likely deinstall after a month) a HDD is a solid option. HDD's are also incredibly cheap. SSD should only be used for OS, stuff you use a lot or games you play everyday.

The Corsair coolers are quite solid. However the fans delivered with them are bad and rattle even at low RPM's. You can swap them out for better ones like Noctua but personally i want to wait for the 140mm SP fans Corsair is working on.
 
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Except that an i7-4770K only has advantages compared to a i5-4670K. The i7-4930K is actually worse.
Also, no budget does not mean money to be wasted. If it's just about wasting money, why not get a 5000€ Quadro even though it has nothing to do with what I want?

And your HDD explanation, first, makes no sense, second, you are not building a computer for yourself. I don't need much storage.
 
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http://www.storagereview.com/ssd_vs_hdd
Ah yes, my apologies about the SSD one.

I shall do a proper one now :p :
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($209.99 @ Amazon)
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I'd personally take the i5 4670k because of it's price / performance.
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($74.98 @ OutletPC)
Since you pointed out you wanted a silent case, the core of it is having the parts within as silent as possible aswell. Noctua's are known for their quiet operation and good performance. However these are more expensive then other coolers.
Motherboard: MSI Z87-G45 Gaming ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($129.99 @ Newegg)
There is not much performance difference cross brand with mobo's. Asus has ROG technology which consumes more power and Gigabyte and MSI have a really good Price / Performance
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($162.99 @ Amazon)
Same as the mobo applies here. Brands don't really matter for performance. Kingston is just as solid as Corsair, but the Corsair ones look nicer (in my oppinion) then the Kingston. Just watch the frequency and latency when you select your RAM (for Performance).
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 512GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($389.99 @ Amazon)
Again 2 x the 256gb version for RAID 0 performance is something to consider?
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card ($515.19 @ B&H)
A GTX780 is even overkill for what you are going to do with your PC. And in Price / Performance this is the obvious choice. And about the Cooler question compared to the EVGA. The Asus dcu ii oc is more focussed on silence and low temperature. Though the difference won't be a lot between these cards.
I have the Asus GTX780 one and i never hear it at load and it never gets hotter then 68/69 degrees celcius.
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 w/Window (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Case Review
If you still think this is to loud you can always swap out the case fans for Noctua's. Though that will cost more.
Power Supply: Cooler Master V700 700W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($124.99 @ Newegg)
Newegg PSU tier list
This PSU performs on a Platinum Certificate but is only rated and priced for Gold Cert. The 860w from Corsair you selected is solid but completely overkill since this build will only require about 450~500w. You could get it (or the v850 version from Cooler Master) for upgradebility like a 2nd GTX780 in SLI.
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1718.09
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-03-14 09:07 EDT-0400)
 
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