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What should I upgrade first for better PC gaming - CPU, GPU or RAM?

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March 14, 2014 12:30:54 AM

First of all, I posted this topic in other forum section before and I missed this one. I think this is more appropriate section for this question so I am reporting this here. Sorry about double post.

Anyways, I want to upgrade my PC for better gaming. I currently have 1.6GHz Celeron G440 single core CPU. 2GB of RAM and integrated Intel HD family graphics. I only play League of Legends, Minecraft and WoW cos not many other games will run on my PC. I get 30 fps on average in those games on lowest graphics settings possible. Eventually I want to upgrade to 8GB of RAM, Quad Core i5-3470 and something like Radeon R7 250 since those fits my budget the best (if you know any better pieces in same price range feel free to suggest since I'm not that good at this stuff).

My question is - what should I buy first? New GPU, CPU or RAM? What upgrade would increase my gaming by most? Since I can not afford to buy all at once and there could be couple months while I can buy more and would like to spend that time with better gaming.

I noticed that I can max WoW, LoL and Minecraft graphics but the thing is that FPS drops from 30 to like 10 or below. So since I can max them I guess I have the capability on on integrated GPU? So would getting more RAM first would make it run smooth? Or new powerful CPU? Or would new GPU would make the most difference? Heck idk, I don't understand anything from PCs. Help very much appreciated. Thanks!
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March 14, 2014 12:37:39 AM

it depends on your mobo and what country your from and your budget and even then by the time your done upgrading everything you probably could have bought a new pc

can you list your mobo? and psu?
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March 14, 2014 12:38:50 AM

whats ur budget?
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March 14, 2014 12:56:17 AM

Most people would say always upgrade your GPU if your on a budget, but because most of your parts are very outdated, I would have to suggest upgrading your CPU first. Try to get atleast 4 gb of ram, You can probably find some under $50.

The reason I say get cpu first is because your gpu may not be compatible with your current cpu/motherboard. So basicallly, get your cpu first, but also make sure your motherboard supports your i5-3470. If it doesn't, you'll have to buy a new one as well. Other than that, the parts you want will work just fine. Good luck
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March 14, 2014 1:01:40 AM

My budget is around 500$. Not more than 200$ for GPU and same amount for CPU. And around 70$ for RAM. In my country Quad Core i5-3470 costs 200$ exactly and Radeon R7 250 costs around 140$ (so I guess I can get more expansive than that up to 200$ but I don't know what much else is out there, I'm not good at this stuff) just to give you impression. Most stuff are are more expensive than US but some are little cheaper I suppose depending from where they import tnem. But yea, my budget is around 500$.

My motherboard is Asrock H61M-VS and PSU... I'm not sure, it's between 400 and 450W, definitely not more than 450.

Buying new PC, even if with same specs I wanna upgrade to, would definitely be more expensive than upgrading pieces, in my country. I checked that.
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March 14, 2014 1:06:29 AM

kenghtt said:
Most people would say always upgrade your GPU if your on a budget, but because most of your parts are very outdated, I would have to suggest upgrading your CPU first. Try to get atleast 4 gb of ram, You can probably find some under $50.

The reason I say get cpu first is because your gpu may not be compatible with your current cpu/motherboard. So basicallly, get your cpu first, but also make sure your motherboard supports your i5-3470. If it doesn't, you'll have to buy a new one as well. Other than that, the parts you want will work just fine. Good luck


My motherboard has PIC-E 3.0 slot so new GPU will fit just fine. But how do I find out with what graphics cards my Celeron G440 1.6Ghz is compatible with?
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March 14, 2014 1:11:08 AM

what country are you from so we can check for prices near you. also can you get a 750 ti there that would be most bang for your buck in graphics and since a 240 is 140 dollars there i assume that a 750 ti would be around 200.... your board supports ram speeds up to 1333 so i would get 2x4gb cas 9 1333mhz ram, you can usually find value sets for around 70 dollars and you already have a good cpu picked out (3470)
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March 14, 2014 1:17:25 AM

If you plan on gaming, I would have to suggest to move away from the Celeron and possibly get an i3. Celeron are designed to meet the most basic and minimal computer usages such as surfing web and using emails. If you get an i3, your options of video cards will widen and you will have much more choices to choose from. As long as your i3 is 3rd gen, you can basically choose any graphics card up to date.
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March 14, 2014 2:12:09 AM

Bad_Kitty13 said:
what country are you from so we can check for prices near you. also can you get a 750 ti there that would be most bang for your buck in graphics and since a 240 is 140 dollars there i assume that a 750 ti would be around 200.... your board supports ram speeds up to 1333 so i would get 2x4gb cas 9 1333mhz ram, you can usually find value sets for around 70 dollars and you already have a good cpu picked out (3470)

I'm from Latvia. Yes, GTX 750 Ti is 177$ here (130 Euros). And do you think I will be able to run GTX 750 Ti, Quad Core i5-3470 and 8GB RAMs all with 400W PSU? Or do I need to upgrade that PSU too? I would rather not to.

I did a Crucial.com scan and it says my motherboard supports 1600Mhz RAM too. That's faster, right? I was thinking to get Kingston HyperX 1600 MHz? Or is 1333 better than 1600?
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March 14, 2014 2:22:52 AM

the 750 ti only uses 65w its less than the processor itself the 3470 will draw 77w and the chipset/memory tdp will be around 84w max so this is 216w i think i did the math in my head....anyway it is still way less than what your psu pushes so you will be good and the 750ti does really good for its price point. they can even go in most 300w setups
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March 14, 2014 3:14:32 AM

Ok thanks! But which should I buy first? I will still gonna buy everything - CPU, GPU, RAM eventually. But it probably will not be in one month. So I would need to wait more 30 - 60 more days. Would like to see at best performance increase in my games until I upgrade everything and finish it.

So in what order should I upgrade them? GPU first? Or CPU? I could stick in 750ti in my motherboard but would my Celeron G440 would support it? And would it get better performance in games than going with i5 3470 with integrated 2500 HD graphics instead? Or maybe should I get my RAM first? I can now max those game graphics with unplayable FPS so would more RAM make it playable? Or is it CPU or GPU thing what gives me so low frame rate on high graphics and RAM has nothing to do with it?
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March 14, 2014 3:25:06 AM

get cpu first i5 4670k with z87mobo and 8gb ram
and later get a gtx760
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March 14, 2014 3:31:27 AM

in your situation i would go cpu first and run off the integrated graphics then ram then gpu that is the order that i would go in. the gpu wont be of any use because it will be such a bottleneck that its not even worth it. the gpu i would upgrade soon after the ram because they will go and in hand. it will be bottlenecked and most likely crash do to lack of ram if you get the gpu second so i would get the ram second. i dont usually recommend doing it this way but the severity of support you will have for each component i believe this is the best path to take
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March 14, 2014 3:59:56 AM

nashdes001 said:
get cpu first i5 4670k with z87mobo and 8gb ram
and later get a gtx760


GTX 760 is 300$ here, i5 4670k is 65$ over my 100$ budget plus another 120$ for new motherboard, that's all together is way over my budget. I'm not buying a new mobo for sure. If you have any suggestions for CPUs with LGA 1155 socket in around same price range I'm open, I will in that case look them up and see if they are not too expensive in my country, but I don't wanna spend money on new mobo too so not different socket than LGA1155.
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March 14, 2014 4:01:50 AM

1333 mhz RAM is faster/better than 1600 mhz or other way around?
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March 14, 2014 4:08:05 AM

xono said:
nashdes001 said:
get cpu first i5 4670k with z87mobo and 8gb ram
and later get a gtx760


GTX 760 is 300$ here, i5 4670k is 65$ over my 100$ budget plus another 120$ for new motherboard, that's all together is way over my budget. I'm not buying a new mobo for sure. If you have any suggestions for CPUs with LGA 1155 socket in around same price range I'm open, I will in that case look them up and see if they are not too expensive in my country, but I don't wanna spend money on new mobo too so not different socket than LGA1155.


1155 socket
then get i5
which mobo u have?
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March 14, 2014 4:31:23 AM

xono said:
1333 mhz RAM is faster/better than 1600 mhz or other way around?


1600 just verify that your mobo can run 1600 mhz through its actual specs and look for 1.5v and a cas latency of 9
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March 14, 2014 6:00:56 AM

nashdes001 said:
xono said:
nashdes001 said:
get cpu first i5 4670k with z87mobo and 8gb ram
and later get a gtx760


GTX 760 is 300$ here, i5 4670k is 65$ over my 100$ budget plus another 120$ for new motherboard, that's all together is way over my budget. I'm not buying a new mobo for sure. If you have any suggestions for CPUs with LGA 1155 socket in around same price range I'm open, I will in that case look them up and see if they are not too expensive in my country, but I don't wanna spend money on new mobo too so not different socket than LGA1155.


1155 socket
then get i5
which mobo u have?


Asrock H61M-VS

Bad_Kitty13 said:
xono said:
1333 mhz RAM is faster/better than 1600 mhz or other way around?


1600 just verify that your mobo can run 1600 mhz through its actual specs and look for 1.5v and a cas latency of 9


When I google Asrock H61M-VS it says that it can - http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=H61M-VS - "Supports Dual Channel DDR3 1600". It does not say anything about 1333 tho.
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March 14, 2014 7:14:09 AM

xono said:

When I google Asrock H61M-VS it says that it can - http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=H61M-VS - "Supports Dual Channel DDR3 1600". It does not say anything about 1333 tho.

If it supports DDR3 1600 then it also supports DDR3 1333 as well by default.

In general, based on the games that you've mentioned above, I would suggest going with:
GigaByte GA-H87-HD3 mother board,
4 or 8 GB of DDR3 1333 RAM,
Pentium G3220 3.0 Ghz dual core CPU,
and a Radeon HD 7750 GPU.

The above should suit you optimally as a budget system without spending any significant sums needed for heavy types of gaming, while still being able to play most modern games found on the market today at medium settings and modest screen resolutions.
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