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March 15, 2014 5:08:36 PM

Hey guys,

Im going to build my first gaming pc in a few weeks, and I need to pick a CPU.
I will save around $50 if i get the 9370, and plus it has more cores than the i7. I'm leaning towards it right now, but I need more advice.
Im not just gonna game, I will stream games and do a bit of heavy video/photo rendering and editing, so which one will be best for this as well?

Plus, games like watch dogs and demanding 8 cores to play on ultra high:
http://www.gameinformer.com/themes/blogs/generic/post.a...

So will it be a wiser investment if i go with amd? Or should I take intel?

P.S. I'm going to get an asrock z87 extreme4 mobo and evga gtx 780 sc acx, if that helps.

Thnx.

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March 15, 2014 5:16:30 PM

well the each core in the i7 is much more powerful than each core in the 9370... so for general use of programs that utilise 4 cores the i7 will be faster choice, however obviously having straight 8 cores is beneficial to extreme intensive multi tasking, so which one you get will have to depend on what your main usage will be.

i would also note the 9370 is 220W.. which is huge power consumption and will require strong cooling and case airflow.

personally i would recommend the 4770k as it can do most things faster and still has the capability of strong multi tasking because of hyperthreading allowing the system to see it as 8 cores with 4 being virtual.
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March 15, 2014 5:17:52 PM

the 9370 is just a factory overclock version of the 8350. there is no difference between them other than clocks
the i7 out performs any vishera chip in games and will perform better than the 9370
the 8350/9370 isnt a true eight core processor it has 4 modules with 2 mini cores a peice so its like a quad core with dual threading

the mother board you have picked out also only supports the i7 4770k(or other 1150 intel chips)
the boards that support the 9370 properly are the 990fx series chipsets
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March 15, 2014 5:18:24 PM

The 9370 is a good chip despite what everyone says. I'm running one and it's very capable. 120mm Rad will keep the temps under control. Multitasking is not a problem. Paired with my 780 it floats through anything
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March 15, 2014 5:20:46 PM

The i7 will be a better cpu but the 9370 is no slouch. Your cheapest option would be to get the 8350 and just overclock it a little the 9370 in my opinion is not worth the extra money for gaming.
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March 15, 2014 5:21:32 PM

Bad_Kitty13 said:
the 9370 is just a factory overclock version of the 8350. there is no difference between them other than clocks
the i7 out performs any vishera chip in games and will perform better than the 9370
the 8350/9370 isnt a true eight core processor it has 4 modules with 2 mini cores a peice so its like a quad core with dual threading

the mother board you have picked out also only supports the i7 4770k(or other 1150 intel chips)
the boards that support the 9370 properly are the 990fx series chipsets

i7 is just the same though, four cores and hyperthreading.

The i7 will help with the editing/rendering. If you have the extra money I would get that.
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March 15, 2014 5:29:47 PM

yea i know but everybody seems to think the highend visheras are special when it is really pretty much the same thing as a 3770/4770. it does everything and has the same make up but the i7 performs alot better. in cpu intesive games the 4770 chip beats it. im not saying the performance is bad its a good chip just not as good as the i7 here are the benches that prove it 8350 oc to 4.8ghz vs a 3770
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2012/11/06/amd-fx-8350...
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March 15, 2014 5:34:16 PM

Bad_Kitty13 said:
the 9370 is just a factory overclock version of the 8350. there is no difference between them other than clocks
the i7 out performs any vishera chip in games and will perform better than the 9370
the 8350/9370 isnt a true eight core processor it has 4 modules with 2 mini cores a peice so its like a quad core with dual threading

the mother board you have picked out also only supports the i7 4770k(or other 1150 intel chips)
the boards that support the 9370 properly are the 990fx series chipsets


Yea I'll change the mobo if i decide to go with an amd CPU. So u guys r saying that the 9370 is just an 8350 Oc'd?
Ok so now I'll cut it down to 8350(oc it withing a few months) or i7 4770k(oc in a year or so).
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March 15, 2014 5:36:33 PM

no matter what vishera you get it will not have the performance of a i7
if you want to save money go with 8350 oc
if you want performance then go with the i7
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March 15, 2014 5:36:40 PM

You guys are all saying 4770k, but which one will be better for games like watch dogs?
Everyone is saying the i7 has better performance in games, but what kind of advantages will it have?
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March 15, 2014 5:37:53 PM

Bad_Kitty13 said:
no matter what vishera you get it will not have the performance of a i7
if you want to save money go with 8350 oc
if you want performance then go with the i7


Ok, i liv near a microcentre so I can get the i7 for $250.
So maybe the i7 is a better choice.......
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March 15, 2014 5:38:53 PM

Kakorat119 said:
You guys are all saying 4770k, but which one will be better for games like watch dogs?
Everyone is saying the i7 has better performance in games, but what kind of advantages will it have?


most games only utilise around 1-2 cores heavily, and the 4770k's cores are around 45% stronger than the cores on the 8350
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March 15, 2014 6:14:36 PM

if it were my money i would get the i7 why spend that much money and not even get the performance of something at a similar price
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March 15, 2014 6:34:42 PM

fields224 said:
Kakorat119 said:
You guys are all saying 4770k, but which one will be better for games like watch dogs?
Everyone is saying the i7 has better performance in games, but what kind of advantages will it have?


most games only utilise around 1-2 cores heavily, and the 4770k's cores are around 45% stronger than the cores on the 8350


True, but keep in mind some next-gen games.
Watch dogs, demands an 8 core CPU for ultra performance. Will the strength of the cores and ht supplement the 8 cores on an amd CPU?
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March 15, 2014 6:36:02 PM

Bad_Kitty13 said:
if it were my money i would get the i7 why spend that much money and not even get the performance of something at a similar price


Ok, so the i7 does have more performance/core, maybe with HT, it will cover the 4-core gap between 8350/9370.
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March 15, 2014 6:42:44 PM

i will say once again...the vishera "8" core cpu's arent really 8 cores it is pretty much the same makeup as the i7 but poorer performance. they have the similar make up as the i7 but instead of having 4 modules controlling 2 mini cores a peice it has 4 real cores with 4 virtual cores....they both do the same thing. a real 8 core processor wont be released until the end of the year in x89 chipset in haswell-e.

to answer your question they are both pretty much made the same but the i7 blows it away in performance for cpu intensive and heavily threaded tasks. as you can see here (once again) the 8350 overclocked to 4.8ghz (9370) gets demolished by a 3770 which is 10% slower than a 4770
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2012/11/06/amd-fx-8350...
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March 15, 2014 6:45:45 PM

Kakorat119 said:
Bad_Kitty13 said:
if it were my money i would get the i7 why spend that much money and not even get the performance of something at a similar price


Ok, so the i7 does have more performance/core, maybe with HT, it will cover the 4-core gap between 8350/9370.


there isnt really a 4 core gap the vishera isnt a true 8 core processor. there isnt a true 8 core processor yet they use processing module to process task between 2 cores so the module directs threads to a mini core. so you could even say that the modules are the true cores as much as you say the mini cores are the cores
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March 15, 2014 6:47:03 PM

Bad_Kitty13 said:
i will say once again...the vishera "8" core cpu's arent really 8 cores it is pretty much the same makeup as the i7 but poorer performance. they have the similar make up as the i7 but instead of having 4 modules controlling 2 mini cores a peice it has 4 real cores with 4 virtual cores....they both do the same thing. a real 8 core processor wont be released until the end of the year in x89 chipset in haswell-e.

to answer your question they are both pretty much made the same but the i7 blows it away in performance for cpu intensive and heavily threaded tasks. as you can see here (once again) the 8350 overclocked to 4.8ghz (9370) gets demolished by a 3770 which is 10% slower than a 4770
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2012/11/06/amd-fx-8350...


Ok, thnx for the info, I'll take the i7.
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March 15, 2014 6:50:00 PM

ok im just try ing to get yo uthe best performance so when you build your system and you use unigine or another benchmarking utility and you compare it to every one elses, you wont wonder why it is lower
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March 16, 2014 5:06:20 AM

I agree the i7 is the best choice unless you are on a budget plus the i7 uses half the power and runs a lot cooler.
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March 16, 2014 7:29:48 AM

Bad_Kitty13 said:
i will say once again...the vishera "8" core cpu's arent really 8 cores it is pretty much the same makeup as the i7 but poorer performance. they have the similar make up as the i7 but instead of having 4 modules controlling 2 mini cores a peice it has 4 real cores with 4 virtual cores....they both do the same thing. a real 8 core processor wont be released until the end of the year in x89 chipset in haswell-e.

to answer your question they are both pretty much made the same but the i7 blows it away in performance for cpu intensive and heavily threaded tasks. as you can see here (once again) the 8350 overclocked to 4.8ghz (9370) gets demolished by a 3770 which is 10% slower than a 4770
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2012/11/06/amd-fx-8350...

This is misinformation regarding the FX line and it seems to just keep permeating this forum. The 8350 is a REAL 8 core processor. Its 8 INTEGER cores, at 2 cores per module. Each module shares an FPU. See diagram below:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:AMD_Bulldozer_block_d...

With that said, this is a case of performance vs. budget. Do you want the best performance and money is no issue? Get the i7. If not, an overclocked 8350/9370 are still very good (and powerful) cpus.
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March 16, 2014 7:43:00 AM

Bad_Kitty13 said:
the 9370 is just a factory overclock version of the 8350. there is no difference between them other than clocks
the i7 out performs any vishera chip in games and will perform better than the 9370
the 8350/9370 isnt a true eight core processor it has 4 modules with 2 mini cores a peice so its like a quad core with dual threading

the mother board you have picked out also only supports the i7 4770k(or other 1150 intel chips)
the boards that support the 9370 properly are the 990fx series chipsets

The 9370 is a HIGHLY binned CPU. Out of 100, there may be 1 chip that can be overclocked to 5Ghz, obviously you have no idea what you're talking about.
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March 16, 2014 9:36:57 AM

FX6350 said:
Bad_Kitty13 said:
the 9370 is just a factory overclock version of the 8350. there is no difference between them other than clocks
the i7 out performs any vishera chip in games and will perform better than the 9370
the 8350/9370 isnt a true eight core processor it has 4 modules with 2 mini cores a peice so its like a quad core with dual threading

the mother board you have picked out also only supports the i7 4770k(or other 1150 intel chips)
the boards that support the 9370 properly are the 990fx series chipsets

The 9370 is a HIGHLY binned CPU. Out of 100, there may be 1 chip that can be overclocked to 5Ghz, obviously you have no idea what you're talking about.


I know eh? Finally someone that knows.
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