AMD 8350 vs, Intel i7-4770K -Best for gaming?

KwebbleKop · Mar 16, 2014

Hello people of the internet! I'm building a gaming rig (first) and I don't know which cpu to chose.

I've heard that AMD does better with multi threaded programs and Intel does better with single threaded (32nm vs. 22nm) . The problem is, I don't know what is a single threaded or a multi threaded is.

All I do is plan on gaming, not rendering videos. I'd like to play games like bf4, so I'm leaning towards AMD because I think that bf4 is a multi threaded, due the many parts flying around. And that AMD tends to be cheaper.

Any advice helps, Thanks!

IDontUnderstand · Mar 16, 2014

Multithread can be explained as multitasking.
How BF4 has a lot of particle floating around does not relate to multithread or single thread, how a game performs with CPU of different amount of cores is determined on how well optimized the game is designed to utilize CPU cores.
Easy answer for your concern is that i5 will do better in most games when compare to FX 8 cores, but it comes with a premium cost compare to FX, and in my opinion that the difference isn't worth paying.

ewok93 · Mar 16, 2014

The 4770k will beat the 8350 in everything. The 4670k is a different story. The 8350 (or the 8320, as it's the same chip as the 8350 with a lower factory clock) will give you good FPS on every game out today, so it's up to you whether you want to spend more than twice as much on FPS you won't even notice.

rgd1101 · Mar 16, 2014

if you can afford it i7 4770k. if not amd fx8350

KwebbleKop · Mar 16, 2014

Thanks for the help!
So what your saying is that unless I run bf4 and call of duty at the same time (pointlessly) or have 2 monitors, then intel will preform better than amd? Also, how does the amount of cache in a cpu effect the gaming performance? I know that the 8350 has 14 mb, vs. the 8mb that intel has. Plus i'm not looking to overclock anything.

rgd1101 · Mar 16, 2014

i7 4770k performance is better than FX8350, period. but it cost a lot more.

ewok93 · Mar 16, 2014

Well, basically you want to just look at benchmarks.

Ignore this.

That one is a bit different, newer version/different settings, but you can't see more than 60 FPS unless you have a 144mhz monitor or something.

KwebbleKop · Mar 16, 2014

Sounds good. I guess I kind of wanted this thread to be more of a learning curve for me, but that's ok. Basically I was debating over to weather get this deal:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1455227
OR the exact same thing but AMD 8350 and GTX 770 4bg instead of 2gb.
any further thoughts?

IDontUnderstand · Mar 16, 2014

4 GB of VRAM is only useful in 3 x 1080p or 2 x 1440p or above set up, or if you want ultra with AA crank all the way up.

ewok93 · Mar 16, 2014

Not much point in 4gb of VRAM as it only affects higher resolutions. Link the AMD build, please.

KwebbleKop · Mar 16, 2014

Awesome! Well thanks for all of your help! It sounds that I'll be going with that Newegg deal.

KwebbleKop · Mar 16, 2014

Oh the AMD is a custom build, but it looks exactly like that but Amd 8350, gtx 770 4gb and ASRock 990FX Extreme3 AM3+ AMD 990FX + SB950 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard with UEFI BIOS

ewok93 · Mar 16, 2014

How much will that cost you?

KwebbleKop · Mar 16, 2014

$1,155.63 with shipping, and I forgot to mention it comes with a Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO and 2x8 1866 ram

vmN · Mar 16, 2014

seems rather expensive, unless I'm missing something.

ewok93 · Mar 16, 2014

16gb of RAM. http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3aZiy This will offer just about the same performance, but is a good bit cheaper. Can do the same with the Intel build.

vmN · Mar 16, 2014

I would rather get the fx 8320 with a better CPU cooler and MOBO, which in the end would bring better performance to the table.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor ($139.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($71.99 @ Mwave)
Motherboard: Asus M5A99FX PRO R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($114.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($72.25 @ Newegg)
Storage: Hitachi 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($79.95 @ Mwave)
Video Card: PNY GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($309.99 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($37.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: Antec High Current Gamer 620W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($15.98 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $993.10
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-03-16 17:02 EDT-0400)

ewok93 · Mar 16, 2014

Well, he doesn't want to overclock, so not much point to a really nice cooler and overclocking board, but that would be ideal, and the AMD would be better for your money if you were overclocking.

IDontUnderstand · Mar 16, 2014

Similar edition from vmN

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor ($139.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Asus M5A99FX PRO R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($114.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($331.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Antec One ATX Mid Tower Case ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Antec High Current Gamer 620W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($15.98 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $942.86
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-03-16 17:07 EDT-0400)

KwebbleKop · Mar 16, 2014

Well thanks for all of your help!
I guess what I'm really confused about is how the i7 out preforms the 8350 since the 8350 has more cores, a larger cache, and higher clock speed

vmN · Mar 16, 2014

Because Intel pak nore into their cores. A haswell core is stronger than a piledriver module( 2 amd cores). L1 and l2 cache are meant to be small to reduce latency, where l3 isn't affected the same way.

KwebbleKop · Mar 16, 2014

Ok so based on the parts list I made:
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/KwebbleKop/saved/3svY
which runs better? That or this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1455227
I'm guessing the Intel will because I'm not overclocking, but I guess because the AMD has 4gb of vram

IDontUnderstand · Mar 16, 2014

4 GB of VRAM will not help you in any way unless you run multi monitor
Changed to a cheaper RAM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor ($139.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Asus M5A99FX PRO R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($114.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($331.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Rosewill THOR V2 ATX Full Tower Case ($139.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Antec High Current Gamer 620W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($15.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $957.88
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-03-16 18:18 EDT-0400)

I would go with this build since it saves you almost $150, and it will not lag behind i7 by a lot if strictly gaming.

KwebbleKop · Mar 16, 2014

Well I guess that's it. Thanks for all of your help!

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