First time gaming build - looking for advice on PSU, Motherboard, Case.

MarkA129

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I am looking at building a PC for high end gaming but with a fairly tight budget of £800 (not including the OS). I already own an Asus VK248H monitor so that's not an issue, and intend to buy an OEM version of Windows so looking for a (relatively) high end motherboard. I don't see myself overclocking to begin with, as 1080p30 covers my needs for ultra (mostly use high to ideally get 1080p60 in most games).

I have compiled a list of parts, but as it's my first time building, I am not sure how reliable certain hardware is. My particular concerns are the PSU and case.

PCPartPicker part list: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/3bzsd
Price breakdown by merchant: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/3bzsd/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/3bzsd/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£161.99 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: Asus Z87-PRO ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£139.99 @ Aria PC)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory (£70.56 @ Scan.co.uk)
Storage: Seagate 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Hybrid Internal Hard Drive (£58.50 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Asus Radeon R9 270X 2GB Video Card (£161.98 @ Dabs)
Case: BitFenix Ghost (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case (£77.95 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: Corsair RM 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£83.93 @ Aria PC)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer (£11.78 @ CCL Computers)
Wireless Network Adapter: Intel 2200BNHMWDTX1G 802.11b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter (£14.04 @ Ebuyer)
Total: £780.72
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-03-17 20:16 GMT+0000)

Some general questions I have are:

* Does the motherboard come with WiFi or do I need to keep the PCI card on the list?
* Does a hybrid drive have increased boot/load times over traditional HDD? SSD is a pretty expensive option for me right now.
* Prior to looking at the R9, I was looking at the 7870. Does the R9 perform at roughly the same level? Also, is there an NVidia equivalent I can get for a cheaper price?
* Also, which GPU vendor (Asus, MSI, Sapphire, Gigabyte) is known to be the most reliable or are they more or less the same?
* Is the PSU good enough or could I live with 550W? PCPartPicker estimates 363W, but I'm highly sceptical about that.
* Will the case have enough airflow? As I don't plan to overclock, I am guessing I can stick with stock coolers without any issues.

I have mainly been using laptops in the past decade, so I'm a complete novice when it comes to desktop parts. They have also all had ATI/AMD graphics cards (currently 7650M), so I don't know much about NVidia.

Thank you very much for your help - it is greatly appreciated. :)
 
1.) Your motherboard does come with wifi.
http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/Z87PRO/
2.) A hybrid drive is better then your standard drive. Essentially what a Hybrid Drive will do is it will store the most commonly used items on its SSD portion making those portions faster. For example if you open xyz a lot it will increase more then likely because of it being hybrid. There is no replacement to a real SSD but its not a bad option you have their.
3.) The 270x is in the same ballpark of the 7870. I would pick up whichever was more within your budget.
4.) I'd go with something from Sapphire, or ASUS. MSI is good as well as Gigabyte however with my experience with Gigabyte their customer support is pretty abysmal.
5.) The wattage is probably right at 363 watts. A 550w psu will do the job. You should watch this video I think you'll find it interesting.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajiN9aVOv4A
6.) You could stick to the stock cooler however if you do and you don't have any intention to overclock you may want to look towards the 4570 and maybe a h87 board.
 

MarkA129

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Thanks for the response. :) I ended up purchasing the parts apart from the PCI WiFi card and PSU so far. Interesting video about the wattage.

At some point I anticipate a CrossFire configuration, so would a 550W supply be sufficient for that? I'll probably look into getting a couple more case fans in the future, although the case did arrive with two of them included.
 

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For crossfire you should have a 750-850w quality psu. I would recommend a seasonic, XFX,or corsair AX or HX. Those are some of the best quality psus (seasonic is my top choice, xfx is seasonic OEM, some corsair ax/hx are seasonic). XFX has some pretty affordable high wattage psu so i would start looking there

Edit: Holy crap found a great priced 750w seasonic

Power Supply: SeaSonic G-750 750W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $79.99

This is a pretty good price too if you want a fully modular one
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($99.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $99.99

Edit 2: Damn didn't notice it needed to be in pounds, go for one of these (i will leave those up cause they are good deals):

Power Supply: XFX 750W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£68.98 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £68.98

Power Supply: XFX 850W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£79.99 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £79.99

If you want the modular versions they are about 5-10 pounds more.
 



Power Supply: XFX 850W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£79.99 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £79.99
GREAT 850W for 80 quids. Get it. Also modular versions means the cables are more managed.
 


Immensely overkill wattage wise. 550-650 is probably where you ought to be with a single card. Maybe more so a 650 with a 290x/non x but with a 270 give me a break 850 watts lawls.
 

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Yeah agreed, but those recommendations were for crossfire in the future.

With a quality psu, 550-650w for 1 card and 750-850w for 2 SLI/Crossfire