Need advice for gaming pc $1500

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I have put together the following parts for my new build:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.00 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: MSI Z87-G45 Gaming ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($87.30 @ Mwave)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($139.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($84.81 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card ($499.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Cooler Master CM 690 II (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($93.67 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair CSM 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.99 @ Micro Center)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($21.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1396.71
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-03-18 19:19 EDT-0400)

A few questions:
1: Will the "Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing" (CPU Cooler) be sufficient when I decide to overclock the processor?

2: Is the PSU good enough to be able to add another graphics card? I'm not planning on a SLI setup, but I just want to know if it's possible or not with 650W, I'm not sure about this.

3: Would the "Cooler Master Hyper 412S" CPU Cooler be good enough for overclocking this system? Since I'm planning on buying this one instead of the "Hyper 212 EVO".

4: Do you have any advice? Please give your opinion/improvements on this build!

Note: I couldn't choose the "Cooler Master CM 690 III" in the PCpartpicker, this would be the case I would eventually buy.
 

FractalDesignCore

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1. That CPU cooler is sufficent and is good for the price. You can always change for a closed water loop. ie. h100i by Corsair.
2. For 650w Gold + that seems pricy i luckily found a nicer XFX 750w.
3. If you want something slim then the 412s is also a good choice. All though im a fan of Hyper 212 evos.
4. I have given you better RAM and a PSU for $7 more
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.00 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: MSI Z87-G45 Gaming ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($85.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($139.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($84.81 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card ($499.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master CM 690 II (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($93.67 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($109.99 @ TigerDirect)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($21.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1403.40
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-03-18 19:34 EDT-0400)

If you want the full $1500 than you can get a closed water loop or an i7 4770k but it is not necessary for the i7. You squeeze in a 780ti as well but you would have to downgrade the case to something else.
 

M0j0jojo

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Changed the RAM's to faster one, put in a more cheap and more wattage PSU, added a better liquid cpu cooler, and 4 amazing case fans with really high air flow.

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3civK
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3civK/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3civK/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.00 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($98.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI Z87-G45 Gaming ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($139.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($84.81 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card ($499.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Cooler Master CM 690 II (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($93.67 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX750B BRONZE 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($21.98 @ OutletPC)
Case Fan: Scythe Slipstream 110.3 CFM 120mm Fan ($11.02 @ SuperBiiz)
Case Fan: Scythe Slipstream 110.3 CFM 120mm Fan ($11.02 @ SuperBiiz)
Case Fan: Scythe Slipstream 110.3 CFM 120mm Fan ($11.02 @ SuperBiiz)
Case Fan: Scythe Slipstream 110.3 CFM 120mm Fan ($11.02 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $1482.48
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-03-18 19:44 EDT-0400)
 

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Hmm @ jamz4 , wouldn't be sure about that since clock rates above DDR3-2400 and DDR3-2666 have no practical worth since they are not supported by memory controllers of today’s CPUs.
 

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1866mhz is standard for most gaming rigs. Anything faster will just be a waste of money.
 

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Do I really need all those fans? The less, the better, but if you have some good reasons to have them then please let me know.
 

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Another question, I'm looking into overclocking, but that only applies to the CPU right? Since the "MSI GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card" is OC already. And as far as RAM overclocking goes, jamz4 showed a kit for around the same price as the RAM in my current build so OC is not needed when I would be at 2400MHz.
 

FractalDesignCore

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I don't see a point spending almost $50 in fans unless you want something super silent. The fans on the case have suffice cooling as does the liquid or air cooling on your CPU.
 

M0j0jojo

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Oh wait I forgot to change the Case, get a NZXT 530 Full tower, its cheaper than the one you picked out and more spacious. These case fans will be helpful for keeping your motherboard, RAM, and SSD/HDD cool.
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/nzxt-case-caso530m1
 

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I'm sorry for not saying this earlier, but I'm from The Netherlands, so I would have to check both your builds for availability. As for the NZXT 530 Full tower, had a quick look, but doesn't seem to be available here.
 

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Checked for some hardware availability in The Netherlands:

G.Skill Ripjaws Z Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2400 Memory: Bad availability
G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory: Good availability
G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory: Great availability
XFX Pro Black Edition 750W: Bad availability
EVGA SuperNOVA NEX750B BRONZE 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply: Good availability
Scythe Slipstream 110.3 CFM 120mm Fan: Good availability, but too expensive, €10 euros p.p.
 

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Maybe check availability of Teamgroup xtreem RAM. I know here in the UK G. SKill isn't as readily available and the teamgroup is rated good enough by 8pack (one of the world's top overclockers) for his extreme top of the range systems from overclockers.co.uk. It is priced pretty reasonably here
 

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@ everyone reading:
What do you think about this build:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.00 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: MSI Z87-G45 Gaming ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($85.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($139.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($84.81 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card ($499.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master CM 690 II (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($93.67 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX750B BRONZE 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($21.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1343.40
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-03-18 20:55 EDT-0400)

I'm jalous how cheap you guys can get hardware, for this particular build I would pay € 1.269,71 which is around $1770 :\
 

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Thanks for your advice, maybe this one?
http://nl.hardware.info/productinfo/188819/team-xtreem-8gb-ddr3-2666-cl11-kit#tab:specificaties
Team Xtreem 8GB DDR3-2666 CL11 kit
 

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The only thing I'm not happy with is the "EVGA SuperNOVA NEX750B BRONZE 750W 80+ Bronze" costs more than 2 times as much in The Netherlands.

I think I'll switch back to "Corsair CS-M Series 650W" since it's the best bang for the buck and has some gold awards.
 

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And could someone answer my second question?

2: Is the PSU good enough to be able to add another graphics card? I'm not planning on a SLI setup, but I just want to know if it's possible or not with 650W, I'm not sure about this.

Because FractalDesignCore said he found a better one for the same price, but I'm forced to buy the 650W since I'm a bit over budget and in The Netherlands the 650W is cheap.