Old system as dedicated recording system?

isaiah davis · Mar 20, 2014

I currently have:
Athlon 64 x2 5000+ oc to 3.06
4gb ddr2
Gtx 750 ti (my beast, happy 1 week bday for u)
and some old Antec 430w earthwatts psu that seems to be the only one of its series off market.

Can i turn this (without the gtx 750 ti) into a dedicated recording pc if i add in this?

P.S. the am2+ motherboard, like many, has intergrated graphics, i have a radeon hd 6450 around but she crashed and bsod within an hour, will i need a decent gpu for this?

I am Bringing my current pc into the world of today (cpu is 8 YEARS OLD!) by adding in a random haswell cpu, probably a refresh of a pentium, i3, or i5. I think this athlon i have can pull another year at least as an data server or some type of secondary machine.

Will the capture card i linked have effect on a haswell refresh cpu? if not then i will instead turn my athlon into a personal data server.

ps - i plan to record at 720p unless im able to capture one of those Asus gsync monitors/mods, then id record at 1080p

B_S · Apr 7, 2014

I don't know anything about the subject. But I think the card does the recording so you don't need a GPU? So then that PC should work as a dedicated recording device.

isaiah davis · Apr 7, 2014

B_S :

I wish, nah recording does a toll on the cpu too

B_S · Apr 8, 2014

Only using the CPU for encoding, hoq fast the CPU needs to be depends on the quality you want to stream at.

After researching a little. Normally a Capture card doesn't actually do any encoding. So all the encoding is done by the CPU. But according to the card description the Aver media gamer Lite you linked to does do hrdware encoding reducing a lot of the CPU work. http://gamerzone.avermedia.com//game_capture/live_gamer_hd_lite

YOur CPU is very much on the low end. However when streaming at lower qualities like 720p [strike]or maybe even 1080p 30fps[/strike] you don't necessarily need a very fast CPU. Perhaps even a haswell i3 could work. And adding the Avermedia that might mean you can stream using the cpu you have. If it will work depends on the video quality and if Avermedia is telling the truth in the product description.

edit: It's looking like your CPU might be to slow for 720p

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/tech-support/372142-streaming-with-two-computers

In that tutorial an overclocked Q6600 is mentioned as minimum for 720p streaming. The Athlon 64 X2 is less than half as fast as a factory clocked Q6600.

The problem is that the Athlon x2 is slow and only a dualcore. And with videoencoding more cores are better.

edit: Xsplit is often describes as a "CPU hog", while OBS is often recommended instead.

B_S · Apr 8, 2014

Perhaps the video encoding can be offloaded to the GPU, maybe using the one you have.
Primer on GPU encoding : http://www.mainconcept.com/eu/products/sdks/gpu-acceleration.html

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/answers/id-1808821/absolute-performance-video-encoding-rig.html

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/nvidia-gpu-video-encoding-nvenc,21874.html

So a GPU I think could be used to offload the CPU from encoding. But on the other hand that description on AVermedia card says it does hardware encoding. So that would offload the CPU alot from the encoding work.

B_S · Apr 8, 2014

Found this quote:

it all depends on the quality you want to stream at. An i5 would be perfectly serviceable for a dedicated streaming PC. An i7 will definitely give better performance but you can definitely use an i5 just fine if that's all you need. It's up to you.

Do note that you need a GPU that is fully compatible with DirectX 10 to run OBS...a lot of integrated GPUs don't fully support it even if they say they do. So just keep that in mind when building a second PC.

the Avermedia card will be doing some of the work as well
The capture card doesn't really do any "work"...it just captures [Note: assuming we're talking about OBS, as OBS cannot utilize the Live Gamer HD's (crappy) encoder]. In a single-PC setup it doesn't give you any performance gains over Window capture or Game capture. It enables you to have a dual-PC setup, but even then it's the CPU that's doing the hard work, not the capture card.

- https://obsproject.com/forum/threads/2nd-streaming-pc-build-questions.6131/

I also recommend that link for more info since I clearly don't know a lot about the subject.

isaiah davis · Apr 9, 2014

B_S :

i dont have a kepler gpu, but a maxwell(gtx 750 ti) im almost 100% sure we can encode too, but i plan to upgrade to a 770 4gb and give this to my lil bro, i dont mind buying another 750 ti for a dedicated recording pc, as it wont feel as if ive wasted alot of money, she is quite a little best of an overclocker.

isaiah davis · Apr 9, 2014

B_S :

Only using the CPU for encoding, hoq fast the CPU needs to be depends on the quality you want to stream at.

After researching a little. Normally a Capture card doesn't actually do any encoding. So all the encoding is done by the CPU. But according to the card description the Aver media gamer Lite you linked to does do hrdware encoding reducing a lot of the CPU work. http://gamerzone.avermedia.com//game_capture/live_gamer_hd_lite

YOur CPU is very much on the low end. However when streaming at lower qualities like 720p [strike]or maybe even 1080p 30fps[/strike] you don't necessarily need a very fast CPU. Perhaps even a haswell i3 could work. And adding the Avermedia that might mean you can stream using the cpu you have. If it will work depends on the video quality and if Avermedia is telling the truth in the product description.

edit: It's looking like your CPU might be to slow for 720p

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/tech-support/372142-streaming-with-two-computers

In that tutorial an overclocked Q6600 is mentioned as minimum for 720p streaming. The Athlon 64 X2 is less than half as fast as a factory clocked Q6600.

The problem is that the Athlon x2 is slow and only a dualcore. And with videoencoding more cores are better.

edit: Xsplit is often describes as a "CPU hog", while OBS is often recommended instead.

at one point i was going to upgrade to the q6800? or something like that, then i decided a i5/7 would be more worthy, then i found out the problems of cpu encoding

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