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March 20, 2014 2:55:56 PM

I had the worst on board GPU and bought a AMD Radeon HD 6450. Tried to install and it got stuck tried again said it installed saw no difference in performance. Uninstalled..Installed...still no difference...with how bad my old one was i should be seeing some difference but im not... please help.. I have AMD six core 3.5 GHz...10 GB of RAM

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March 20, 2014 3:00:26 PM

a 6450 isn't very powerful, it's still only going to allow games to run at a lowish med setting.
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March 20, 2014 3:17:25 PM

HD 6450 is not a gaming GPU, it is aimed toward mainstream PC users, who use the PC as a workstation running non GPU intensive programs or a HTPC. If you tell us what resolution do you game at we can suggest a good gaming GPU to you depending on your needs and budget.
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March 20, 2014 3:35:37 PM

Did you disable the onboard graphics in the BIOS and enable the PCI-Express graphics? ...or does it say you are running the new video card in Windows?

Also, did the drivers ever install and work correctly or are you still running in VGA mode?

BTW, what is the exact model processor you have now and/or the type of integrated graphics?
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March 20, 2014 5:04:12 PM

KevinAr18 said:
Did you disable the on-board graphics in the BIOS and enable the PCI-Express graphics? ...or does it say you are running the new video card in Windows?

Also, did the drivers ever install and work correctly or are you still running in VGA mode?

BTW, what is the exact model processor you have now and/or the type of integrated graphics?


display adapters says im running the new one..it said they were installed correctly..cant remember the named of the old graphics specifically but it was like the lowest intel graphics.. it says AMD FX(tm)-6120 Six-Core processor 3.50 GHz

They may be telling me its not a great GPU but i was looking for something to let me play some ok games with no lag i looked up the old card and it was beyond shit so paying what i paid to get a new GPU i would like to at least see some games with no lag.. the game i have been loading up to see if anything is happening is AION..Ive played this game with less lag on a 5 year old computer with lower everything inside so for me to be seeing an extremely choppy log in screen is just really upsetting ty for your feedback btw. hopefully you can help me fix this or at least understand whats going on.
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March 20, 2014 5:13:24 PM

well what is your power supply unit and get the air duster out because u could have dust build up in your heat sinks
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March 20, 2014 5:31:47 PM

The other posters were right... the AMD Radeon HD 6450 is a VERY slow video card, even slower than some types of integrated graphics. For example, the Intel HD 4000 is around twice as fast as the AMD Radeon HD 6450.

It might be that you have faster integrated graphics on the other systems and/or your current system.

If you want a good video card upgrade, then you will want to get something more current. However, when doing that, you will need to check if the power supply can handle it.

1. What is the exact model and brand power supply you have? If you don't know, then open up the computer and look for this sticker on the power supply: http://admintell.napco.com/ee/images/uploads/gamertell/...
You can either list all the numbers or just the ones for the +12v rails.
2. After you return the Radeon, what is your approximate budget?
3. Also, try to find the model motherboard you purchased... then we can tell you how fast your current integrated graphics already is.
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March 20, 2014 6:03:01 PM

KevinAr18 said:
The other posters were right... the AMD Radeon HD 6450 is a VERY slow video card, even slower than some types of integrated graphics. For example, the Intel HD 4000 is around twice as fast as the AMD Radeon HD 6450.

It might be that you have faster integrated graphics on the other systems and/or your current system.

If you want a good video card upgrade, then you will want to get something more current. However, when doing that, you will need to check if the power supply can handle it.

1. What is the exact model and brand power supply you have? If you don't know, then open up the computer and look for this sticker on the power supply: http://admintell.napco.com/ee/images/uploads/gamertell/...
You can either list all the numbers or just the ones for the +12v rails.
2. After you return the Radeon, what is your approximate budget?
3. Also, try to find the model motherboard you purchased... then we can tell you how fast your current integrated graphics already is.


its an HP it says 300 W @ 25 degC and 260 W @ 50 degC +12 Va /12 A, +12 Vb /16 A +3.3 V /12A, +5.08 V /13 A +5.08 Vsb /2 A

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System Information
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Time of this report: 3/20/2014, 20:58:16
Machine name: OWNER-HP
Operating System: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1 (7601.win7sp1_gdr.130828-1532)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: Hewlett-Packard
System Model: h8-1234
BIOS: BIOS Date: 04/17/12 13:39:40 Ver: 7.05
Processor: AMD FX(tm)-6120 Six-Core Processor (6 CPUs), ~3.5GHz
Memory: 10240MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 10006MB RAM
Page File: 2638MB used, 17370MB available
Windows Dir: C:\Windows
DirectX Version: DirectX 11
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
User DPI Setting: Using System DPI
System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled
DxDiag Version: 6.01.7601.17514 32bit Unicode

dont know if that information helps...My old GPU is Radeon HD 7450..

as far as budget im imagining imma have to spend 40 or so on a new PSU...i would want to stay in the 100 buck range... remember im not tryin to run crazy games im a casual gamer if that just wanted something more reliable then the shit they put in the PC when i bought it.. :D  thanks again!
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March 20, 2014 6:18:52 PM

The best card for a Pre-assembled system is the GTX 750Ti for around $150; it only draws power from the PCIe slot so you won't need to upgrade your PSU. For 100$ and below you only have two options : the R7 250 or the HD 7750, and in both cases you won't be able to buy a PSU but I think your stock PSU MIGHT do fine running any of these two cards. The HD 6450 is around $50 so you won't find anything better at that price point. With a budget of $100 for both gpu and psu upgrade there isn't really a point of the upgrade to start with.
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March 20, 2014 6:27:58 PM

AnEwG said:
The best card for a Pre-assembled system is the GTX 750Ti for around $150; it only draws power from the PCIe slot so you won't need to upgrade your PSU. For 100$ and below you only have two options : the R7 250 or the HD 7750, and in both cases you won't be able to buy a PSU but I think your stock PSU MIGHT do fine running any of these two cards. The HD 6450 is around $50 so you won't find anything better at that price point. With a budget of $100 for both gpu and psu upgrade there isn't really a point of the upgrade to start with.


well i can prolly go like 200 in total was just saying 100 to see what were the options:D  si for around 150 the GTX 750Ti would be the only thing i need to get aye? and would run some games lag free?
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March 20, 2014 7:03:58 PM

The GTX 750Ti is a decently performing card, considering the lower power it uses. Here is an example of a rather decen Asus model that also has low noise.
Performance:
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GTX_750_Ti_OC/1...
Power use (look at "Peak" numbers):
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GTX_750_Ti_OC/2...

Although that model does require a 6-pin PCI-E power plug, the benchmark shows that is still uses a lot less power than most cards. Just don't overclock it any further than it's current settings. :) 
Also, the prices are rather decent, if you can manage it:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...



BTW, I think you power supply can handle this video card... and maybe even a better one, but I can't be 100% sure. Here's what I figured:
Your power supply offers:
300W? on +12v rail [It claims 336W (28 amps on +12v rail)]

Your CPU + base system consumes less than 127W on the +12v rail.
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/amd-fx-812...

So, that leaves you with around 100W for a video card (yes, I know 300-127 = 173W, but you don't want to run your power supply at 100% capacity -- especially cheap brands.

P.S. If you want to be extra safe, get one of the GXT 750 Ti models that does not have a 6-pin PCI-E power plug; then there's no way it can use up more power. :) 
Examples .. I *think* both of these do not have the extra power cable plug:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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March 20, 2014 7:11:12 PM

KevinAr18 said:
The GTX 750Ti is a decently performing card, considering the lower power it uses:
Performance:
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GTX_750_Ti_OC/1...
Power use (look at "Peak" numbers):
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GTX_750_Ti_OC/2...

Although that model does require a 6-pin PCI-E power plug, the benchmark shows that is still uses a lot less power than most cards. Just don't overclock it any further than it's current settings. :) 
Also, the prices are rather decent, if you can manage it:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...



BTW, I think you power supply can handle this video card... and maybe even a better one, but I can't be 100% sure. Here's what I figured:
Your power supply offers:
300W? on +12v rail [It claims 336W (28 amps on +12v rail)]

Your CPU + base system consumes less than 127W on the +12v rail.
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/amd-fx-812...

So, that leaves you with around 100W for a video card (yes, I know 300-127 = 173W, but you don't want to run your power supply at 100% capacity -- especially cheap brands.

P.S. If you want to be extra safe, get one of the GXT 750 Ti models that does not have a 6-pin PCI-E power plug; then there's no way it can use up more power. :) 
Examples .. I *think* both of these do not have the extra power cable plug:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...



so go for the GTX 750Ti? i can swing the 150 if it will work out for me :D 
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March 20, 2014 7:12:46 PM

Stephen Naccarelli said:

so go for the GTX 750Ti? i can swing the 150 if it will work out for me :D 


Yeah, it sounds like a pretty good option. Glad AnEwG mentioned it.
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March 20, 2014 7:16:11 PM

it also says PCI Express 3.0 would that work in my pc?
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March 20, 2014 7:18:57 PM

Anyways, to make it easier, here's 3 models that might interest you:

Asus (low noise)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
MSI
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
EVGA
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Both the MSI and EVGA are guaranteed to not draw more than 70W because they don't have any extra power plugs. However, the Asus would probably also be safe as long as you don't overclock it.
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March 20, 2014 7:19:46 PM

Stephen Naccarelli said:
it also says PCI Express 3.0 would that work in my pc?

Yeah, all the versions are compatible, (with only a few small rare exceptions).
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March 20, 2014 7:22:43 PM

thank you so much for helping me would have just given up without your help ty ty ty ty!!
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March 20, 2014 7:24:11 PM

Stephen Naccarelli said:
thank you so much for helping me would have just given up without your help ty ty ty ty!!

Your welcome... and I think you will definitely be able to see the difference with this video card. :) 
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