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March 20, 2014 5:46:00 PM

Hello I am still fairly new when it comes to computer parts and I was wondering if anyone had any recommendations on a good gaming processor for running games such as League of Legends, Battlefield, and FPS games. Here is a link to my current PC: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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With this graphics card and power supply that I upgraded just in case they are needed to be compatible with the graphics card.
Graphics: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Budget would be around $200 or maybe a little over. Thanks for the help

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March 20, 2014 5:50:46 PM

What graphics card? 500w will be plenty in your price range.
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March 20, 2014 5:51:43 PM

With this graphics card and power supply that I upgraded just in case they are needed to be compatible with the graphics card.

***That was in your post. I think you wrote graphics card twice. You left out what it needed to be compatible with*****
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March 20, 2014 5:52:44 PM

dustinhunt78 said:
With this graphics card and power supply that I upgraded just in case they are needed to be compatible with the graphics card.

***That was in your post. I think you wrote graphics card twice. You left out what it needed to be compatible with*****


Yea I meant to say compatible with the CPU, thanks for pointing that out.
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March 20, 2014 5:52:50 PM

Your motherboard likely does not support 125w cpus.
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March 20, 2014 5:53:32 PM

dustinhunt78 said:
This CPU is the same socket as your old one, so you can just plug it right in.

http://www.amazon.com/AMD-FD8350FRHKBOX-FX-8350-FX-Seri...

It is a pretty good jump to the positive and will give you much more processing power.


Do you have any recommendations on Intel as well?
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March 20, 2014 5:54:18 PM

Keep the FX6300 and get a better video card, and possibly a new power supply too.
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March 20, 2014 5:55:05 PM

CTurbo said:
Your motherboard likely does not support 125w cpus.


Yeah I was planning on upgrading my motherboard, cpu, and ram at the same time. But wasn't sure if I wanted to pay that much at the same time so I wanted to see if there are any processors that would work with my current system that could perform at a fairly high level.
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March 20, 2014 5:55:50 PM

A GTX750ti for $149 will work with your 350w psu
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March 20, 2014 5:59:36 PM

CTurbo said:
Keep the FX6300 and get a better video card, and possibly a new power supply too.


Those are the two things I just bought, If I were to upgrade on or the other I'll probably go with the GTX750ti like you just said. What exactly is wrong with the PSU I just bought?
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March 20, 2014 6:01:19 PM

My advise on building/upgrading......

Even if it means that a part has to sit there for a couple of weeks or so, get what you really want. If you don't, you will kick yourself later on and potentially have a bad case of "buyer's remorse". Be patient, get what you truly want and you won't regret it later.
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March 20, 2014 6:01:24 PM

Wait what did you just buy? The 750w psu and what?
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March 20, 2014 6:04:32 PM

BayArea said:
CTurbo said:
Keep the FX6300 and get a better video card, and possibly a new power supply too.


Those are the two things I just bought, If I were to upgrade on or the other I'll probably go with the GTX750ti like you just said. What exactly is wrong with the PSU I just bought?


I'm a bit confused as well.

BayArea.......what is it EXACTLY that you have currently, and what is it EXACTLY that you want?
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March 20, 2014 6:04:49 PM

Because in your first thread, the graphics link is just the same link as your current PC link so I'm having a hard time figuring out what you have, and what you want. If you have the FX6300, HD7730, and 750w psu, The FX6300 is way better than the HD7730, and the 750w psu is way overkill for your system.
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March 20, 2014 6:07:37 PM

You won't like this.....but this was just released back in February. Notice that your ROSEWILL is in this list. It can potentially damage your other components or catastrophically fail.

Tier 5 - Other than the units listed above for any of these brands, NOT RECOMMENDED.  Replace ASAP if you have one. 
A-TOP Technology
Apevia
APEX (SUPERCASE/ALLIED)
Aspire(Turbo Case)
ATADC
Athena Power
ATRIX
Broadway Com Corp
Coolmax
Deer
Diablotek
Dynapower USA
Dynex
EagleTech
FOXCONN
FSP Everest
HEC Orion
Hiper Type-R
Huntkey
I-Star Computer Co. Ltd
In Win
JPAC COMPUTER
Just PC
Kingwin Inc.
Linkworld Electronics
Logisys Computer
MGE
MSI
NMEDIAPC
Norwood Micro/ CompUSA
NorthQ
NZXT
Okia
Powmax
Q-Tec
Raidmax
Rocketfish
Rosewill
SFC
Shuttle
Skyhawk
Spire Coolers
Star Micro
STARTECH
Thermaltake Purepower NP
Thermaltake Purepower RU
Thermaltake TR2  (and TR2-RX)
TOPOWER TOP
Ultra X-Connect
Ultra X2 >greater than 700 watt
Ultra LSP
Wintech 
XION
YoungYear
Zebronics
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March 20, 2014 6:10:21 PM

CTurbo said:
Wait what did you just buy? The 750w psu and what?


dustinhunt78 said:
BayArea said:
CTurbo said:
Keep the FX6300 and get a better video card, and possibly a new power supply too.


Those are the two things I just bought, If I were to upgrade on or the other I'll probably go with the GTX750ti like you just said. What exactly is wrong with the PSU I just bought?


I'm a bit confused as well.

BayArea.......what is it EXACTLY that you have currently, and what is it EXACTLY that you want?


Oh I see now, sorry for the confusion. I guess I was rushing this post so I messed up with the links. Just to make this easier I'll link everything again.
Current PC: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Current Graphics card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Current PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Everything else in my PC is the same except the graphics and PSU that I just replaced the other day.
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March 20, 2014 6:12:01 PM

Can you send back the video card and psu? You should have asked for advice BEFORE buying them.
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March 20, 2014 6:12:19 PM

dustinhunt78 said:
My advise on building/upgrading......

Even if it means that a part has to sit there for a couple of weeks or so, get what you really want. If you don't, you will kick yourself later on and potentially have a bad case of "buyer's remorse". Be patient, get what you truly want and you won't regret it later.


Thanks for the advice, that's one of my problems. I am always really eager to get everything put together immediately so I want to get everything in one purchase. Will definitely take this in.
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March 20, 2014 6:12:53 PM

Tier 5 power supplies are NOT RECOMMENDED. If you have one, you should strongly consider replacing it ASAP. These can damage your computer, and often cannot put out the power that they're rated for. If a brand name is listed here, then all models from that brand name are considered to be Tier 5, except for those specific models listed above.

This was the whole description of the "Tier 5" classification that you PSU was listed under. If it's not too late, RETURN IT.
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March 20, 2014 6:14:14 PM

CTurbo said:
Can you send back the video card and psu? You should have asked for advice BEFORE buying them.


Unfortunately no, but I'm willing to buy another graphics card for the right price if possible, and just sell my other two graphics cards I have. That's one of the mistakes I made being fairly new to this which I regret but that comes with learning I suppose.
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March 20, 2014 6:15:30 PM

Here is the link to the page that I got that PSU info on. It would do you well to read the entire article:

http://www.eggxpert.com/forums/thread/323050.aspx

And given what this says, I certainly WOULD NOT plug my new GPU into this PSU. There is a very real possibility that the PSU could severely damage it.
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March 20, 2014 6:18:38 PM

dustinhunt78 said:
You won't like this.....but this was just released back in February. Notice that your ROSEWILL is in this list. It can potentially damage your other components or catastrophically fail.

Tier 5 - Other than the units listed above for any of these brands, NOT RECOMMENDED.  Replace ASAP if you have one. 
A-TOP Technology
Apevia
APEX (SUPERCASE/ALLIED)
Aspire(Turbo Case)
ATADC
Athena Power
ATRIX
Broadway Com Corp
Coolmax
Deer
Diablotek
Dynapower USA
Dynex
EagleTech
FOXCONN
FSP Everest
HEC Orion
Hiper Type-R
Huntkey
I-Star Computer Co. Ltd
In Win
JPAC COMPUTER
Just PC
Kingwin Inc.
Linkworld Electronics
Logisys Computer
MGE
MSI
NMEDIAPC
Norwood Micro/ CompUSA
NorthQ
NZXT
Okia
Powmax
Q-Tec
Raidmax
Rocketfish
Rosewill
SFC
Shuttle
Skyhawk
Spire Coolers
Star Micro
STARTECH
Thermaltake Purepower NP
Thermaltake Purepower RU
Thermaltake TR2  (and TR2-RX)
TOPOWER TOP
Ultra X-Connect
Ultra X2 >greater than 700 watt
Ultra LSP
Wintech 
XION
YoungYear
Zebronics


I still have my old power supply which is a LEPA 350W that came with the PC. But I don't have the ability to return the current PSU
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March 20, 2014 6:19:13 PM

Dustin, his Rosewill Capstone 750 is clearly listed in the tier 2 isn't it? I trust that psu, it's just completely overkill and unnecessary.
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March 20, 2014 6:20:44 PM

dustinhunt78 said:
Here is the link to the page that I got that PSU info on. It would do you well to read the entire article:

http://www.eggxpert.com/forums/thread/323050.aspx

And given what this says, I certainly WOULD NOT plug my new GPU into this PSU. There is a very real possibility that the PSU could severely damage it.


Just read it and I found the Rosewill Capstone series 750W in the tier 2 list. What are they trying to say when it just says Rosewill in the tier 5 list but then have the Capstone series in the tier 2 one?
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March 20, 2014 6:21:22 PM

CTurbo said:
Dustin, his Rosewill Capstone 750 is clearly listed in the tier 2 isn't it? I trust that psu, it's just completely overkill and unnecessary.


If it is then I missed it.
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March 20, 2014 6:21:50 PM

CTurbo said:
Dustin, his Rosewill Capstone 750 is clearly listed in the tier 2 isn't it? I trust that psu, it's just completely overkill and unnecessary.


If it is completely overkill then any certain Graphics cards in my budget that can accommodate the PSU?
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March 20, 2014 6:22:46 PM

BayArea said:
dustinhunt78 said:
Here is the link to the page that I got that PSU info on. It would do you well to read the entire article:

http://www.eggxpert.com/forums/thread/323050.aspx

And given what this says, I certainly WOULD NOT plug my new GPU into this PSU. There is a very real possibility that the PSU could severely damage it.


Just read it and I found the Rosewill Capstone series 750W in the tier 2 list. What are they trying to say when it just says Rosewill in the tier 5 list but then have the Capstone series in the tier 2 one?


It got me too. LOL If it is listed in Tier 2, then you're all good. Tier 1 would be your best PSU's, Tier 5 the worst and needs to be replaced.
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March 20, 2014 6:23:56 PM

BayArea, as your build stands now, the FX6300 is the LAST thing I would upgrade. You're motherboard and video card(s) would be the first things I would upgrade. Maybe try to sell both video cards and that psu, and you can upgrade your video card and motherboard at the same time.
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March 20, 2014 6:24:16 PM

BayArea......do you think there is ever going to be a possibility that you will SLI/Crossfire your graphics cards? Because if so, that 750w is right in line. Turbo is right about it being "overkill" if that possibility doesn't exist, but it really doesn't hurt anything to have a PSU with a little more power than you need.
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March 20, 2014 6:25:29 PM

CTurbo said:
BayArea, as your build stands now, the FX6300 is the LAST thing I would upgrade. You're motherboard and video card(s) would be the first things I would upgrade. Maybe try to sell both video cards and that psu, and you can upgrade your video card and motherboard at the same time.


Ok I'm getting at what you're saying now. Couple more questions though, you're telling me to sell which psu exactly? And if it's the one I just bought whats the reasoning behind that?
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March 20, 2014 6:25:51 PM

No 750w is plenty for any single gpu on the market, and most 2 card SLI/crossfire situations. 500w would have been more than enough for any sub $300 video card, and 300w is enough for the GTX750 ti which is WAAAAAAY better than either of your cards.
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March 20, 2014 6:27:17 PM

dustinhunt78 said:
BayArea......do you think there is ever going to be a possibility that you will SLI/Crossfire your graphics cards? Because if so, that 750w is right in line. Turbo is right about it being "overkill" if that possibility doesn't exist, but it really doesn't hurt anything to have a PSU with a little more power than you need.


Maybe in the future, once I'm of age to be working which will be later this year and can fund for myself I will probably put more money into upgrading. As of now I'm just trying to get a rig that can handle these games with no problems.
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March 20, 2014 6:29:23 PM

Your current estimated power draw is 250w
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March 20, 2014 6:29:37 PM

CTurbo said:
No 750w is plenty for any single gpu on the market, and most 2 card SLI/crossfire situations. 500w would have been more than enough for any sub $300 video card, and 300w is enough for the GTX750 ti which is WAAAAAAY better than either of your cards.


Hm, well I guess I'm prepped for later once I have better specs that can would need a 750W psu.
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March 20, 2014 6:30:22 PM

CTurbo said:
No 750w is plenty for any single gpu on the market, and most 2 card SLI/crossfire situations. 500w would have been more than enough for any sub $300 video card, and 300w is enough for the GTX750 ti which is WAAAAAAY better than either of your cards.


This statement is clearly untrue.

The minimum PSU wattage for GTX 660 (just over 200.00 card) in SLI configuration is 650 watts. And that is the MINIMUM. It doesn't hurt to have a little cushion in there as well. In fact, you SHOULD have a cushion because no PSU is 100% efficient.

http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-1622634/620w-max...

You were saying that 500 was enough for SLI, right? If not, I do appologize.
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March 20, 2014 6:37:32 PM

No. I said 750w was enough for most 2 card setups, and 500w is enough for most single card setups.
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March 20, 2014 6:40:26 PM

CTurbo said:
No. I said 750w was enough for most 2 card setups, and 500w is enough for most single card setups.


Gotcha buddy. :)  I know that we all slip up sometimes, even if we know better.
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March 20, 2014 6:42:58 PM

Going back to what was said about the 750w PSU and the possibility that you would want to SLI/Crossfire in the future......I would suggest going with the 750 JUST in case you want to do it. As I said, it hurts nothing and eliminates the possibility of having to buy a completely new PSU when that day comes. The price difference isn't outrageous.

I went with the AX860i for just that very reason. I don't need all that power NOW, but in the future I may very well want/need it.
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March 20, 2014 6:45:03 PM

Thanks for the help guys really appreciate it. All this will come in handy since I'm new to all of this to prevent me from making anymore mistakes. :) 
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March 20, 2014 6:47:56 PM

BayArea said:
Thanks for the help guys really appreciate it. All this will come in handy since I'm new to all of this to prevent me from making anymore mistakes. :) 


Come here BEFORE you buy. I haven't met someone here that wasn't willing to take the time to steer you right. :) And as you said, you can't help but to learn here.
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