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Muku

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yes they are...
But may I ask why are you going for a build with old generation CPU and such expensive motherboard?? Expensive motherboard doesn't contribute much to performance.
And why have you chosen a 2.5 inch Hard drive?.. they are mainly for Laptops, Desktop use 3.5 inch as standard..
 
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I would recommend using pcpartpicker.com to see if all your components will be compatible. Most of the time it's really accurate in terms of compatibility. I've only had one issue with accuracy and I alerted the site and they updated it quickly.
 
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Eric Joh

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This is what you should do. Give us your budget and give us a list of things you want our of your PC, and we will build a PC for you. The build you have listed doesn't make a lot of sense to me. I will get you started - On a scale of 1 through 5, how important are these things to you A) Gaming/Graphical capability, B) Creative media production, C) Size of desktop, D) Power efficiency, E) Noise generated by PC, F) Loading times (i.e. windows startup and video game loading).
 
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Bookaboy

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Thanks for the information, what processor and motherboard would you recommend?
Thanks!
 
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My budget is around £400 (I realize that the parts I listed were over budget, I was just curious to see what would work).
Gaming/Graphical capability: 5/5
Creative Media Production: 3/5
Size of Desktop: Mid-Tower Case
Power Efficiency: 3/5
Noise: 4/5
Loading Times: 4/5
 
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Muku

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400 GBP is a little less to build a good intel based PC... I'd recommend trying AMD for that budget, you will get more value for money..
The graphics card I included is better than what you've chosen... So, it will perform better in games..

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor (£77.99 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: MSI 970A-G43 ATX AM3+ Motherboard (£47.48 @ Aria PC)
Memory: Kingston 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£55.54 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£42.99 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R7 260X 2GB Video Card (£96.78 @ Aria PC)
Case: Cooler Master N300 ATX Mid Tower Case (£32.00 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£35.94 @ Scan.co.uk)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer (£11.79 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £400.51
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-03-22 17:01 GMT+0000)
 
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Eric Joh

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I very much disagree with this guy. AMD is not the way to go in 2013-2014. Their processors are not that much cheaper and the quality is much worse. I would pick the i3 4130 or the i3 4340 ALL DAY LONG if cost was an issue. I have an i3 4130 and an i5 4760K in my house and had a i5 2550K previously. I also bought a new 'Richland' (A-series) APU for a third computer and the quality is ridiculously poor. An intel core running at 3.0Ghz, not overclocked, runs better than an AMD CPU overclocked from 3.8 to 4.3. Running tasks I have my Intel PCs running all the time, the AMD is at 50-70% capacity doing the same thing. Maybe it wasn't this way in the past, but I would stay away from AMD right now. They are power hungry, the architecture is miles behind Intel, and just are not a good value at all.
 
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Muku

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Maybe its his personal opinion... But actual story is a bit different..

Intel i3-4130 has only two but stronger cores. So, tasks that don't need much cores to perform runs better with intel processors. Like older games and general computing stuffs.

AMD FX 6300 has six cores but they are weaker. So, older games don't perform well with them. However new games are being so designed now that will run much better with more cores. Like Battlefield 4, Crysis3.

So, if you want to run modern games, AMD should be your choice..


if you see the overall benchmark results, AMD FX 6300 is way ahead of i3-4130:
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_lookup.php?cpu=AMD+FX-6300+Six-Core

here AMD scores 6384 which is pretty close to intel i5-2500k {6514} whereas i3-4130 scores 4860

Moreover, FX 6300 is an unlocked processor which can be overclocked to increase its performance even further. But with intel, you don't have that opportunity as an i3-4130 can't be overclocked.

And if you check answers from other knowledgeable people in this forum regarding the same issue, you will find almost all of them has voted for FX 6300. I am giving you a few examples:

http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-1802061/6300-4130-gaming-confused.html

http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-1861734/6300-core-4130.html

http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-1976731/intel-4130-amd-6300.html

Read these threads before you decide on anything..

The only negative point of FX 6300 is it requires more power to run. But again that is not something your build can't handle... i3-4130 requires 54W whereas FX 6300 requires 95W.
 
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Thanks Eric Joh for that setup, very helpful indeed, I have chosen the £392 link as my parts list, I would like to know how well this setup would be when running the upcoming Elder Scrolls Online game, I want it to run smoothly, if there are any things that need to be changed then please tell me (regardless of my £400 budget),
Thanks
 
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Eric Joh

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Muku makes some good points. There are SOME new games that are taking advantage of multi-core processing. The i3-4130 is multithreaded from 2 to 4, but this still does not perform as well as AMD's 6 core processor, the FX 6300, in these instances. That is the case for games like BF4 and Crysis 3, but not all new games are being developed that way. Actually, BF4 and Crysis 3 are the exception to the rule, and in cases when a game does not take advantage of multi-threads, the i3 4130 outperforms the FX-8350 (which is a lot better than the FX-6300), which costs 1.5 times as much at the i3 4130 and consumes 2.5 times as much energy. It outperforms the FX-6300 by a long shot in these cases. These tests are done where the CPU is the bottleneck:

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2013/11/14/intel-core-i3-4130-haswell-review/5
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/core-i3-4340-4330-4130_5.html#sect0

If you can, the best thing would be to stretch yourself and go with the i5-4670K. If you can manage that, you will be golden for any games that come out within the next 5 years (as far as CPU power goes).

 
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Eric Joh

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It should be good for moderate quality gaming. But to be honest, If you could find ANY WAY AT ALL to afford this setup, you will not regret the extra 75 euro investment. The CPU will dominate any game you throw at it for the next 5 years. If you look for sales and rebates, you may be able to save on the RAM and the PSU.

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/3eqY2

I own 2 of those desktop cases and they are incredible and they come with 2 good cooler master fans that are quiet. The PSU is a top brand for this price (as is the Corsair CX430). The Kingston reliable RAM. I own 8GB (2x4GB) @ 1333MHz and have been playing anything and everything at 60+fps for years. Again, CPU is incredible. GPU is okay, you will want to upgrade in a few years or if you really want to crank the settings up, but honestly, those good video cards start around 240 euros (GTX 770 is what I'm thinking of). Just save up for a year or two and get the next iteration of geforce graphics. This new motherboard I listed has a PCI Express 3.0 x 16 slot - YOU WILL ABSOLUTELY NEED A 3.0! 2.0 does not support the newest and best graphics cards. Let me know if you have more questions.

If you want to be able to over clock, it will cost about 30 more. Make sure you get Gigabyte, Asus, or ASRock. Make sure it has 'Z87M' (M for being micro ATX - necessary to fit in the case). Make sure it supports your ram speed (I selected 1600MHz RAM). Make sure it has PCI-E 3.0 x 16 like I said, and make sure it has USB 3.0 (best if it also supports front panel USB 3.0 and not just back panel). Im almost positive all motherboards you come across will support SATA III, but double check just to make sure.

In the end, you will have some very cheap, powerful, small, quiet, and reliable.
 
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Bookaboy

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Thanks Eric Joh, I will definitely invest in the other CPU after reading what you have just said.
Thank you for all of the advice guys!
 
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Have you built your system yet? Were you installing Windows 8.1?
I am seeing people on HP's forum having issues with the HP DVD1260i SATA Optical Drive not being compatible with Windows 8.1.
Its not recognized and no driver updates.
 
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Oh, I haven't built it yet but it seems as though I may need to look elsewhere for an optical drive, thanks for the advice MiscMan :)
 
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