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March 21, 2014 3:24:04 PM


I need to buy an AMD mATX motherboard with:
* native 6.0GB/s Sata
* USB 3.0
* am3+ FX processor support

ASRock 960GM/U3S3 FX does not have native sata 6.0GB/s. I guess it's sata chip is slow.
ASUS M5A88-M has what I need but is no where to be bought.
Came up empty searching newegg, microcenter, and tiger direct.

Can anyone help?
Thanks Everyone..
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March 21, 2014 3:28:27 PM

Anything 990FX should have all of those features.
I have the Asus Sabertooth 990FX R 2.0 and I'm happy with it.

We could probably be of more assistance if we knew your budget.
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March 21, 2014 3:43:10 PM

Current AMD AM3+ mATX motherboards are not available with native 6.0GB/s Sata with the 760 chipset.

However this board includes an ASMedia ASM1061 chip that features an additional 2 x SATA3 6.0 Gb/s connectors. It only supports 95 watt (TDP) AM3+ CPUs.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

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March 21, 2014 3:49:27 PM

Alec Mowat said:
Anything 990FX should have all of those features.
I have the Asus Sabertooth 990FX R 2.0 and I'm happy with it.

We could probably be of more assistance if we knew your budget.


This is not an mATX sized board.. Thanks for the reply
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March 21, 2014 3:56:01 PM

Calvin7 said:
Current AMD AM3+ mATX motherboards are not available with native 6.0GB/s Sata with the 760 chipset.

However this board includes an ASMedia ASM1061 chip that features an additional 2 x SATA3 6.0 Gb/s connectors. It only supports 95 watt (TDP) AM3+ CPUs.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...



Are there discontinued mATX boards like the ASUS M5A88-M
that give me what I need? I already have a search agent on
ebay for an M5A88-M but can search for others if I know what
to search on. The ASRock 960GM has kind of a slow SATA 6.0 chip
and the reviews on newegg say it's SATA 6.0 is flaky. Thanks for the reply..

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March 21, 2014 4:21:49 PM

yes ofcourse.
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March 22, 2014 6:37:01 AM

ModernWarfare said:
yes ofcourse.


The reason I asked about whether it had native Sata 6.0GB/s is
because on the ASRock 960GM/U3S3 FX, it's Sata 6.0 is based
off of an auxiliary chip instead of using a southbridge and thus
not native 6.0. This means the Sata 6.0 performance is significantly
downgraded.

How do I check to see if this MSI board uses the Southbridge for both
the sata 3.0 and sata 6.0 ports and thus having full native operation for
all sata ports? Thanks for the help..
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March 22, 2014 7:37:35 AM

GhislainG said:
According to http://www.msi.com/product/mb/760GMAP34_FX.html#/?div=D... it has "2 SATA 6Gb/s (7~8) ports by ASMEDIA 1061". I wouldn't call the ASMedia chip native.


You are 100% correct. That's what I needed to know. This board has non-native Sata 6.0 like the AsRock
motherboard. A 25% to 30% drop in performance plus sporadic flakiness as discussed on the newegg
reviews. Thanks for finding that out for me..
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March 22, 2014 8:00:49 AM

GhislainG said:
You should always double-check the specs by yourself.

A used ASUS M5A88-M is available on Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B0053YM6QY/ref=d...


You are absolutely right. Sometimes its hard to know where to look for the Native Sata issue.
I did find out that one on my own for the ASRock board by reading newegg reviews.. I appreciate
the help all around.. I Gotta go look to see if the ASUS board is Native Sata 6.0.
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March 22, 2014 8:53:37 AM

The ASUS M5A88-M has native SATA III ports as it uses the AMD SB850 controller. It seems to be the only micro-ATX motherboard using that controller.
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March 22, 2014 9:53:09 AM

GhislainG said:
The ASUS M5A88-M has native SATA III ports as it uses the AMD SB850 controller. It seems to be the only micro-ATX motherboard using that controller.


Looks like that will be the board I go after. I'll watch Ebay (past auctions show them selling used for
about $50). Thanks everyone for all the help!! Everyone has been super cool...
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March 22, 2014 10:03:14 AM

sorry if i wasnt that good xP
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March 22, 2014 10:18:48 AM

Call me nuts but I'm pulling out my 2600k and switching to an AMD FX-6300 6 core.
I had AMD before moving to the 2600k and miss the smoothness of the AMD.
I noticed it immediately when I first switched to the 2600k 2 years ago.
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March 22, 2014 10:35:20 AM

Benchmarks don't always tell the whole story.
Doubt I'll notice the 12% CPU raw speed difference.
But I will notice the "smoothness" factor. AMD CPUs
seem smoother in general. A lot of people notice that
Intel while a hair faster doesn't seem as smooth in
operation.
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March 22, 2014 10:39:56 AM

if you like amd then i recommend the fx 8320.
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March 22, 2014 10:41:20 AM

Tom92602 said:
Benchmarks don't always tell the whole story.
Doubt I'll notice the 12% CPU raw speed difference.
But I will notice the "smoothness" factor. AMD CPUs
seem smoother in general. A lot of people notice that
Intel while a hair faster doesn't seem as smooth in
operation.


Smoothness in what?
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March 22, 2014 10:42:44 AM

so you want to go with a crappier cpu because of smoothness really?
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March 22, 2014 10:56:04 AM

I just like how the AMD feels. And I can always OC the AMD FX-6300. And 6 cores don't suck.

Hell I'd go with a FX-8350 if I knew the 125W wouldn't tank the power supply.
I fear I am already pushing my 250W Dell Power Supply with everything in it now.
If I knew the Power Supply could take it, I would go for it. But I really like this Dell
case and totally silent power supply. I don't want to kill it.


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March 22, 2014 11:52:21 AM

According to the bit-tech review, the 2600k draws 180W under full load
while the FX-8350 draws 213W under full load. 33W delta.. Starting to
ponder the risks..
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March 22, 2014 1:03:58 PM

Tom92602 said:
According to the bit-tech review, the 2600k draws 180W under full load
while the FX-8350 draws 213W under full load. 33W delta.. Starting to
ponder the risks..


It's not really a risk, it will probably just shut down the power supply. Potentially blow a capacitor if it's not a good quality power supply. It will also be hot in that tower.
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March 22, 2014 2:40:50 PM

I've had the 2600k in there for about 2 years without a single hiccup.
Real Temp reports all 4 CPUs at 43C-47C with general usage.

Running WEI kicked it up to a max of:
CPU1 CPU2 CPU3 CPU4
75C 77C 74C 75C

I am guessing if I don't run benchmarkers I should be ok heatwise.
I think the only danger is choking my power supply to death. You
think that extra 33W will kill it? That 213W draw is running PI so
I don't think I would ever get close to that. Plus Bit-Tech reports
that the 2600k draws more power at idle (118W) than the FX-8350
(95W).

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2012/11/06/amd-fx-8350...


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March 22, 2014 2:54:40 PM

It does run significantly hotter than the i5, that's a certainty. And it will pull more power if you are using all 8 cores, which isn't often.

Is it a brand name PSU? It might be 250W, but it may only be capable of 240 or 230. It may even be capable of 300W.

75 is a little to hot for my test. I keep the FX8350 around 50 in games. Benchmarks can bring it up to the 70's. But this is overclocked with an H100, hard to compare.
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March 22, 2014 3:32:29 PM

Pulled the cover. It's got a bestec 250W Power Supply.

I reset Real Temp and after an hour 55C is the max temp
while surfing the web, running emule, and streaming iheart radio.
(Using the intel fan that came with the 2600k retail box)
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