2 ASUS MARS GTX 760's AND 3 BENQ DISPLAYS
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Suferbus
March 22, 2014 10:09:01 AM
I dont really have a question, I just need to put this out there so I can hopefully save some sucker some money--I can tell you one thing for sure, I purchased 2 ASUS MARS 760 gpu's a month ago, and set it up in quad sli, (quad sli because each gpu is a dual gpu) and ran 1 monitor fine for weeks--then I decided I would purchase 3 BENQ 24" 1080p monitors, and when I hooked everything up, couldnt play even 1 game... PC would crash every time---I called ASUS tech help around 10 times to no avail--they are useless there-the best the could ever do was send me a link to a YOU TUBE video on how to hook up NVIDIA Surround-NO HELP for me, I was running 2 of the MARS Gpu's and apparently no one else has tried this while running 3 monitors because there are absolutely no posts or articles anywhere on how to do this-Finally i removed one of the gpu's and walaa! It works wonderful!!!
Apparently they do not have driver support for running 2 MARS GTX 760's quadfire while in Nvidia surround mode for 3 Monitors. They might want to mention that on these websites that sell the MARS 760 <~~Newegg
because if you have or plan on running any 3 monitor set up with 2 MARS 760's, you cant!!!!--there isnt enough VRAM on the slave GPU in a Quad SLI Setup, and the way ASUS has nvidia surround set up now, you have to hook up 2 of the 3 monitors to the bottom (slave) gpu, and it does not have the gas to push 2 1080p monitors in any resolution much less 5760x1080---If and when ASUS comes out with a driver that allows you to hook up 2 of the monitors to the main card and one to the slave, it should work fine, but until then, you will end up with a bad ass 1 GPU gaming setup and a $650 brick or doorstop. Happy Gaming!!!! ~~~Suferbus
Apparently they do not have driver support for running 2 MARS GTX 760's quadfire while in Nvidia surround mode for 3 Monitors. They might want to mention that on these websites that sell the MARS 760 <~~Newegg
because if you have or plan on running any 3 monitor set up with 2 MARS 760's, you cant!!!!--there isnt enough VRAM on the slave GPU in a Quad SLI Setup, and the way ASUS has nvidia surround set up now, you have to hook up 2 of the 3 monitors to the bottom (slave) gpu, and it does not have the gas to push 2 1080p monitors in any resolution much less 5760x1080---If and when ASUS comes out with a driver that allows you to hook up 2 of the monitors to the main card and one to the slave, it should work fine, but until then, you will end up with a bad ass 1 GPU gaming setup and a $650 brick or doorstop. Happy Gaming!!!! ~~~Suferbus More about : asus mars gtx 760 benq displays
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fatboyslimerr
March 22, 2014 10:21:35 AM
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fatboyslimerr
March 22, 2014 10:43:23 AM
sorry to hear that, but thank you for the heads up. If it even helps one person out of spending that much money like you did to get the same result, this thread totally worth it. But on that note, im sure either amd or NVidia will have a fix soon (im guessing drivers). Best of luck, and congrats on the beast setup. Yes x4 760's isn't what I would do considering dual 770/780's would almost be as fast, but its a great setup and sucks its not working for you.
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Suferbus
March 23, 2014 1:58:06 PM
I decided not to go with the 780 Ti or dual 780 Ti's because I am really into running multiple gpu's, and dual gpu cards, not to mention the MARS looks BAD A**---By itself the Mars 760 is definitely faster than the 780 Ti, and I do agree the 780Ti has more VRAM, thus as a single card it would be great for running 3 monitors. But honestly the Mars 760 as a single card set up, is better for 3 monitors because it has 4 gb vram---now wait, before you say, "ya but it has 2 gpus and thus only 2gb ddr5 per gpu and all the benchmarks state the separate gpu's dont share vram with one another--yes that is correct==but when you hook up a MARs 760 you get to hook up 2 monitors to the 1st gpu, and the 3rd monitor to the 2nd gpu. Therefore you are not trying to cram 3 monitors onto the 780ti's 3gb of ddr5, and you get to spread the 3 monitors out between the 4gb DDR5 on the MARS 2 gpus===As for running 2 mars, yep waste of time for a 3 monitor gaming setup--but ill tell you what, on my 32" 4K single monitor, holy sh*t, MARS running in Quad SLI dominates everything out there-- but live and learn===i kinda figured support for quad sli and three monitors would be nil, but i gave it a shot, took out the xtra card, sold it, and am very happy with just one===for now--I just ordered 2 780Ti's for my 2nd machine and ill give a report on how well it works with my 3 monitor set-up and on my 4k uhd monitor-- once complete... Thanks everyone for their comments.
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Suferbus
March 23, 2014 2:06:54 PM
Fatboyslimer~~~~Well I sure couldnt get 3 monitors to work with my MARS 760 Quad SLI---3 weeks, and a 1200w Silverstone psu later, nil--ASUS Tech service was absolutely no help, they had no clue how to get it to run properly---Now, i was able to get the surround to work, just not play games---i could surf the web, watch videos etc, but as soon as i booted up a game, the machine would lock up--it was due to a lack of vram from card 2b--the way nvidia recognized my gpus was 1a for the main gpu on the main graphics card, 1b for the 2nd gpu on the 1st card, then 2a (main gpu on the slave card), and 2b (2nd gpu on the slave card)--and when you go to hook up 3 monitors, nvidia drivers forced you to hook up 1 monitor to the 1st (main card) and the other 2 monitors to 2b (the 2nd gpu on the slave card)---anyone who know anything about crossfire or SLI knows that the gpu in the crossfire or sli position does not run at full capacity, so my best guess is i had 2 monitors sharing a little over 1 gb ddr5, which would never be enough to push 2 1080p monitors in ultra gaming--if and when asus/nvidia comes out with a driver that allows you to hook up 2 of the monitors to the 1st card and only 1 to the slave, it should work flawlessly. You can however run 2 mars 760's with only 1 monitor and it is awesome!
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Suferbus
March 23, 2014 2:23:39 PM
Dblkk said:
sorry to hear that, but thank you for the heads up. If it even helps one person out of spending that much money like you did to get the same result, this thread totally worth it. But on that note, im sure either amd or NVidia will have a fix soon (im guessing drivers). Best of luck, and congrats on the beast setup. Yes x4 760's isn't what I would do considering dual 770/780's would almost be as fast, but its a great setup and sucks its not working for you.Ya, it does suck, mainly becuase it would have been sweet running quad sli, normally very difficult to quad sli to fit in a case, so would of been cool, maybe later when there is better driver support...
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MFBLO96
March 23, 2014 2:46:31 PM
MFBLO96
March 23, 2014 3:48:27 PM
trawetSluaP
March 23, 2014 5:00:18 PM
Suferbus
April 12, 2014 11:31:33 AM
trawetSluaP
April 12, 2014 12:02:44 PM
Suferbus said:
trawetSluaP said:
Can't see the logic in running a Mars 760 over a 780 Ti. They're in the same price bracket.The logic is simple, look at the benchmarks--the Mars is 7% faster than the 780Ti, gets better FPS, and I prefer Dual GPU cards---Period---
Really? In most of the comparisons I've seen the Mars can't keep up with a reference 780 Ti, let alone the EVGA Classified version I have that is factory overclocked. Plus it has 1 GB less of usable VRAM, requires more power, gets hotter and is louder.
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Suferbus
April 14, 2014 5:37:26 PM
trawetSluaP said:
Suferbus said:
trawetSluaP said:
Can't see the logic in running a Mars 760 over a 780 Ti. They're in the same price bracket.The logic is simple, look at the benchmarks--the Mars is 7% faster than the 780Ti, gets better FPS, and I prefer Dual GPU cards---Period---
Really? In most of the comparisons I've seen the Mars can't keep up with a reference 780 Ti, let alone the EVGA Classified version I have that is factory overclocked. Plus it has 1 GB less of usable VRAM, requires more power, gets hotter and is louder.
Ya really---Guess you are not really quoting any real benchmarks. Toms Hardware's benchmark would be the 1st one to start---http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/asus-mars-760,3730-...
And as far as VRAM, it has 4gb DDR5, The 780Ti has 3, so don't know what specs you are reading---Also, unless you are playing at resolutions above 1080p, the Mars has proven over and over to be a faster card---and with my 3 1080p's, its perfect----Try again when you check the specs before you post G Money
oh wait, here is another review-- http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2013/12/04/as...
just keep looking, the reviews are everywhere, 7% faster----PERIOD---get your facts straight so you don't look like a fool please
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It kind of makes sense though. It's a relatively new to the market GPU wither limited support where as official drivers from nvidia will help optimize the situation really Asus needed to do some driver writing themselves with as much alteration as went into the Mars. I agree they look bad ass I thought about getting one before settling on the 780 classified.
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trawetSluaP
April 14, 2014 6:33:45 PM
Suferbus said:
trawetSluaP said:
Suferbus said:
trawetSluaP said:
Can't see the logic in running a Mars 760 over a 780 Ti. They're in the same price bracket.The logic is simple, look at the benchmarks--the Mars is 7% faster than the 780Ti, gets better FPS, and I prefer Dual GPU cards---Period---
Really? In most of the comparisons I've seen the Mars can't keep up with a reference 780 Ti, let alone the EVGA Classified version I have that is factory overclocked. Plus it has 1 GB less of usable VRAM, requires more power, gets hotter and is louder.
Ya really---Guess you are not really quoting any real benchmarks. Toms Hardware's benchmark would be the 1st one to start---http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/asus-mars-760,3730-...
And as far as VRAM, it has 4gb DDR5, The 780Ti has 3, so don't know what specs you are reading---Also, unless you are playing at resolutions above 1080p, the Mars has proven over and over to be a faster card---and with my 3 1080p's, its perfect----Try again when you check the specs before you post G Money
oh wait, here is another review-- http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2013/12/04/as...
just keep looking, the reviews are everywhere, 7% faster----PERIOD---get your facts straight so you don't look like a fool please
I have to point out that those comparisons are to the reference 780 Ti. Aftermarket 780 Ti's tend to be at least 10% quicker than reference models which negates the 7% the Mars has on the reference models.
You also seemed to completely ignore my input about noise, temperature and power draw. Simply focusing on a cards speed and not taking other factors into account is foolish.
At the end of the day the 780 Ti Classified I am running is faster, quieter, cooler and is less power hungry than a single MARS 760. It may not be a fast as 2 MARS 760's but then it's only 1 GPU vs. 4, but it'll still be quieter, cooler and less hungry.
It's nothing personal, you can stop acting like I'm attacking you.
EDIT: Here is a link with both the MARS and 780 Ti Classified on the same graph, as expected, the 780 Ti Classified bests the MARS in every benchmark - http://www.overclockers.com/evga-gtx780ti-classified-gr...
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MFBLO96
April 15, 2014 10:37:44 AM
RazCaz89
May 4, 2014 6:09:33 PM
pdasterly
May 5, 2014 5:10:58 AM
Suferbus
May 5, 2014 10:03:42 AM
trawetSluaP said:
Suferbus said:
trawetSluaP said:
Can't see the logic in running a Mars 760 over a 780 Ti. They're in the same price bracket.The logic is simple, look at the benchmarks--the Mars is 7% faster than the 780Ti, gets better FPS, and I prefer Dual GPU cards---Period---
Really? In most of the comparisons I've seen the Mars can't keep up with a reference 780 Ti, let alone the EVGA Classified version I have that is factory overclocked. Plus it has 1 GB less of usable VRAM, requires more power, gets hotter and is louder.
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Suferbus said:
trawetSluaP said:
Suferbus said:
trawetSluaP said:
Can't see the logic in running a Mars 760 over a 780 Ti. They're in the same price bracket.The logic is simple, look at the benchmarks--the Mars is 7% faster than the 780Ti, gets better FPS, and I prefer Dual GPU cards---Period---
Really? In most of the comparisons I've seen the Mars can't keep up with a reference 780 Ti, let alone the EVGA Classified version I have that is factory overclocked. Plus it has 1 GB less of usable VRAM, requires more power, gets hotter and is louder.
Ya really---Guess you are not really quoting any real benchmarks. Toms Hardware's benchmark would be the 1st one to start---http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/asus-mars-760,3730-...
And as far as VRAM, it has 4gb DDR5, The 780Ti has 3, so don't know what specs you are reading---Also, unless you are playing at resolutions above 1080p, the Mars has proven over and over to be a faster card---and with my 3 1080p's, its perfect----Try again when you check the specs before you post G Money
oh wait, here is another review-- http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2013/12/04/as...
just keep looking, the reviews are everywhere, 7% faster----PERIOD---get your facts straight so you don't look like a fool please
The 760 MARS only has 2GB of usable VRAM. It sounds like you don't understand how SLI works.
Each gpu on the mars has 2GB of VRAM. Both 2GB chunks of VRAM get filled with the exact same data, it's mirrored. It is NOT combined, regardless of which GPU you plug your monitors into. 2GB is the max usable.
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trawetSluaP
May 5, 2014 2:14:27 PM
Suferbus said:
trawetSluaP said:
Suferbus said:
trawetSluaP said:
Can't see the logic in running a Mars 760 over a 780 Ti. They're in the same price bracket.The logic is simple, look at the benchmarks--the Mars is 7% faster than the 780Ti, gets better FPS, and I prefer Dual GPU cards---Period---
Really? In most of the comparisons I've seen the Mars can't keep up with a reference 780 Ti, let alone the EVGA Classified version I have that is factory overclocked. Plus it has 1 GB less of usable VRAM, requires more power, gets hotter and is louder.
I assume the KPE 780 Ti was the replacement for you Mars'? You can try to be patronising all you want but all you talk about is FPS? You've ignored my points about power draw, temperature and everything else.
I suppose if all you care about is FPS then an illogical solution may be best after all...
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Suferbus
May 5, 2014 2:31:20 PM
trawetSluaP said:
Suferbus said:
trawetSluaP said:
Suferbus said:
trawetSluaP said:
Can't see the logic in running a Mars 760 over a 780 Ti. They're in the same price bracket.The logic is simple, look at the benchmarks--the Mars is 7% faster than the 780Ti, gets better FPS, and I prefer Dual GPU cards---Period---
Really? In most of the comparisons I've seen the Mars can't keep up with a reference 780 Ti, let alone the EVGA Classified version I have that is factory overclocked. Plus it has 1 GB less of usable VRAM, requires more power, gets hotter and is louder.
I assume the KPE 780 Ti was the replacement for you Mars'? You can try to be patronising all you want but all you talk about is FPS? You've ignored my points about power draw, temperature and everything else.
I suppose if all you care about is FPS then an illogical solution may be best after all...
Sorry, I didn't catch the other questions in your post. Ya, I have no care about temps or power draw. I have a great case that has awesome airflow, and as far as temps, well my room the pc sits in gets up to around 95F while I am using the pc...(i know that is not the temps you were referring to, i thought i'd throw that out there) As far as FPS, I am not stuck on it, but my point is that obviously FPS really affects playability, and if a gamer can get FPS up around 60, there is not need for more unless you have a 120 HZ or faster refresh monitor, so FPS means a lot. Just ask someone playing on a machine dipping below 30 FPS while gaming. Sucks, and that is my point with the MARS. For the money, it is a better deal than a 780Ti not taking into account powerdraw or heat, and just performance. Actually, I am going for the most power draw possible just to see how much i can get out of an AM3+ platform before I bottleneck something. I added in a 2nd KPE 780Ti a few minutes ago and HOLY POWERDRAW!!!! Im telling you, this thing is hotter than a billy goat in a pepper patch!! Can't wait to get my 1st electric bill---BTW, this thing eats up anything I throw at it, and I mean anything.. I think I am going to throw my Mars 760 in as a dedicated PHYSX gpu just to see what happens..
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