New build + Cooling advice

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Hey guys,

This is what i'm looking at getting,

Asus Sabertooth z87 $309
Intel Core i7 4770K $395
Corsair Vengeance CMZ16GX3M2A1866C9 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3 $229
Nanoxia Deep Silence 6 Anthracite Case $199
Corsair Hydro Series H100i CPU Cooler $149

I will use this power supply, which i already have.
Antec High Current Pro 750W Power Supply

Ive also already got a 250GB SSD, 2TB HHD, Blu Ray Writer, and a Gigabyte GeForce GTX 670 Overclocked 2GB

I will probably keep the graphics card for now, and maybe upgrade to a asus 780 later, or try and find another gtx 670 to sli.

Now, i was thinking i'd replace the H100i fans with Noctua NF-F12 PWM 120mm Fans
and replace the rear and front case fans with Noctua NF-A14 FLX 140mm Fans. I'm not really too sure about the top fans, the case includes three fans at the top, but won't that be where the H100i will mount? Or would the H100i mount ontop of those, so the Noctua fans on the H100i would push and the top case fans pull?

What do you think?
 
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My thoughts:
I would not replace any fans until I found out that the supplied fans are not meeting your needs. The stock fans are likely ok.
On the build itself:

1. If $100 is not important to you, buy the 4770K. You will get hyperthreading and a better binned chip.
Otherwise for gaming, save the $100 and use a 4670K.

2. I think the sabretooth motherboards are overpriced. Any Z87 based motherboard at half the price will do as well.

3. You buy a liquid cooler to be able to extract an extra multiplier or two out of your OC.
How much do you really need?
I do not much like all in one liquid coolers when a good air cooler like a Noctua NH-D14 or phanteks can do the job just as well.
A liquid cooler will be expensive, noisy, less...
Instead of the 100i, why don't you get a 110 instead? Dual 140mm radiator instead of dual 120mm for 169. I also wouldn't worry about replacing the fans on it either. Read a review where they tested fans on the corsair series(not sure which exact one) and it offered only a negligible gain in performance.
 
My thoughts:
I would not replace any fans until I found out that the supplied fans are not meeting your needs. The stock fans are likely ok.
On the build itself:

1. If $100 is not important to you, buy the 4770K. You will get hyperthreading and a better binned chip.
Otherwise for gaming, save the $100 and use a 4670K.

2. I think the sabretooth motherboards are overpriced. Any Z87 based motherboard at half the price will do as well.

3. You buy a liquid cooler to be able to extract an extra multiplier or two out of your OC.
How much do you really need?
I do not much like all in one liquid coolers when a good air cooler like a Noctua NH-D14 or phanteks can do the job just as well.
A liquid cooler will be expensive, noisy, less reliable, and will not cool any better
in a well ventilated case.
Liquid cooling is really air cooling, it just puts the heat exchange in a different place.
The orientation of the radiator will cause a problem.
If you orient it to take in cool air from the outside, you will cool the cpu better, but the hot air then circulates inside the case heating up the graphics card and motherboard.
If you orient it to exhaust(which I think is better) , then your cpu cooling will be less effective because it uses pre heated case air.
And... I have read too many tales of woe when a liquid cooler leaks.
google "H100 leak"
3. Fancy heat spreaders are mostly marketing. Buy a low profile ram kit which will cost less and not interfere with cooler parts.
4. Love the SSD, and your PSU.
 
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zacariah

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Thanks for your reply,

I'm not too worried about the $100 for the cpu, i'd rather the 4770K.
I'm a bit of an Asus fan, i'd want to stick with them for the motherboard, so i'm just comparing the Sabertooth to the z87 pro and z87 plus. I like the backing plate, dust covers/fans and the temp sensors the Sabertooth comes with, I think that justifies the extra $80 over the Asus z87 Plus.
I was originally looking at the Noctua NH-D14, I was just a little worried about all that weight, hanging off the motherboard. Plus the more i looked at the builds with h100's, it just looked a lot neater. In saying that though, I'd really hate to get a leak and ruined graphics card. Especially after reading a few threads about it, and how corsair won't cover any damage to other components. I think i will end up going with the Noctua.
Thanks for the comment about the RAM, i already have a set of Corsair CMX8GX3M2A1600C9 8GB (2x4GB) which i think i will just stick with for now. The $230 saved can go towards a GTX 780 later on.
 
With a backplate mount, I don't think the weight of a tower cooler is a big thing.
Some cases will have a cooler support mechanism, or you could devise one yourself.
In my case, a Silverstone TJ08E M-ATX case, it actually has such a support mechanism.
 

zacariah

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I think i know what you mean, i couldn't find any pictures though, does it just connect the cpu cooler from the top, and to the top of the case, supporting the weight that way?

Thanks for your help, you managed to talk me out of spending a bit of unnecessary money.
 

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Thanks, I went with the NH-D14.

Did corsair replace anything?