Motherboard choice for 4930k Ivy Bridge.

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Hay everyone. Im a little overwhelmed at the moment at the amount of mobs I can get. Im looking at the z77 and x79. The latter are much more expense and Im not sure If I need it, or intact what other kind of stuff a mobo is good for as performance wise I hear they are all as good as each other.

So i thought id tell you all what Im using it for and then go from there.

Im building a PC for Video editing, Im getting the Hex core Ivy league 4930k processor, along with 32gb of ram. Is the extra price of the x79 because it supports better memory or something?
Im also getting the 580 graphics card.

I will also be using it for audio production, but sound card is not important because I will be buying an external audio interface.

SO im not really sure what are the features that I really need.

Im not fussed about having loads of SATA ports, they need to be SATA 6 but I will mainly be using external hard drives so about 3 - 6 will be enough for me.

I will also be running dual monitor, one of which will be a HDTV for video quality but I hear both of these mother board types will manage this.

So in summary, what x79 would you pick. And will it be worth getting that chipset over the z77?

My range is around £100 - £200 but i don't want to spend it if i don't have to, Im mainly looking on www.amazon.co.uk .

What kind of stuff do i need to look out for?

Any help or suggestions would be much appreciated.

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GTX 580's architecture is optimized for CUDA. However it is getting old for possible future support from Nvidia.
GTX 780/780 Ti is the current king of GPU performance outside of CUDA, and because of that it still performs really well in CUDA applications. However, it does come with cost.
GTX 750 Ti uses the new Maxwell architecture and seems like it works very well with CUDA applications.

I advise GTX 580 if you are strictly going to use the system for CUDA applications, not every professional editing software uses CUDA.
I advise GTX 780/780 Ti if you do plan on using other applications and if we end up with enough budget to support these expensive cards.
I advise you to get GTX 750 Ti if you are fine with waiting for the new Maxwell...
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Thanks mate that looks great. So obviously boards go up to £250 on the x79. Am i loosing out on anything here that might be worth paying more for? Looks like it does everything I need. Ur a star thanks again.
 
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Ok so Im assuming the CPU benefits are minimal or its all the same. I won't be getting multi GPU for a while so not bothered about that just yet. How would you compare that board to this one? http://www.amazon.co.uk/Motherboard-Express-Intelligent...

Cheers again mate
 
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Its the Asus P9X79 Motherboard Socket 2011, Intel X79, DDR3, ATX, PCI Express 3.0, Dual Intelligent Processors 3 with DIGI+ Power Control).


http://www.amazon.co.uk/Motherboard-Express-Intelligent-Processors-Control/dp/B006665HGY/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1395682536&sr=8-4&keywords=x79 -incase i posted link wrong.

yeah i guess I don't know much about over clocking but It may be something I want to look into in the future. Though i hear u don't get much more out of the 4930k. What u reckon?

Your board looks awesome btw. But good to have choice. Cheers mate
 
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heres the list I'm putting together.

i7 4930k Ivy bridge E 413.18
Mushkin 994122 DDR3 32gb 2400mhz 316.94
Corsair Pro AX760 Fully modular PSU 122.71
Corsair H105 94.95
Mushkin Chronos 120gb ssd -2 Of 126.16
WD 2t sata3 green 64.99

So i think theres only 8 Ram cards. Should i be worried about buying a motherboard with an active fan?
 
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No, no parts yet, and around 2k to 2,500k, itl be for a work station type thing as will be using it for work and high end video and 3d rendering. Im set on the 580 as thats the best graphics card that works with CUDA technology allowing my CPU to take advantage of GPU when rendering. But yeah feel free to chuck some other recommendations in the ring mate. Just noticed that the one I mentioned only has 3 hard drive boards and yours has like 6. But they seem to be different, I think its like 3 intel pins and 3 something else but not sure what difference that would make. Thanks again for input.
 
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Do you agree with the others then that the 580 will be best? In the post Spectrum said - "The 580 is one of the last geforce cards to have pretty much full compute capabilities similair to the quadro cards. After that Nvidia really began to cripple the open CL compute on the geforce force cards."

I will be using mainly after efects. I don't know tho sounds like you get the specifics of the cards more than me.
 
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GTX 580's architecture is optimized for CUDA. However it is getting old for possible future support from Nvidia.
GTX 780/780 Ti is the current king of GPU performance outside of CUDA, and because of that it still performs really well in CUDA applications. However, it does come with cost.
GTX 750 Ti uses the new Maxwell architecture and seems like it works very well with CUDA applications.

I advise GTX 580 if you are strictly going to use the system for CUDA applications, not every professional editing software uses CUDA.
I advise GTX 780/780 Ti if you do plan on using other applications and if we end up with enough budget to support these expensive cards.
I advise you to get GTX 750 Ti if you are fine with waiting for the new Maxwell cards while settling down for the still decent CUDA performance of GTX 750 Ti.
 
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Hay thanks man, really good stuff. Still a bit confused but I know my options now. When do the maxwell cards come out? And yeah I like final cut pro aswell, but I've been getting into after effects for its 3D and photoshop compatibility and things. Im not sure how far the CUDA goes really. I hear that without it your rellying soley on CPU and then with it it uses your GPU for double the speed for rendering. So without it theres no point in me getting a good GPU at all really. I do play some games but then I hear the 580 is pretty good with rome and stuff, which is about as far as i go game wise. Um yeah thanks again for all your help. Feel free to offer any more advice on parts, its like a couple of weeks away I get my money so Im assuming Ill be pottering and looking at parts until then. At this point I'm thinking that I should get the 580 as it will be good straight away. But then if the mawell cards come out soonish then ill wait for those, unless there really expensive. Thanks again mate
 
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Maxwell is coming second half of 2014, and even then the price will still take a while for it to drop.

Amazon doesn't seen to have any new, decent branded GTX 580 anymore. http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=gtx%20580&sprefix=gtx+58%2Caps&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3Agtx%20580

Here is a suggestion. Don't know if you need OS or anything else.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-4930K 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor (£413.18 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£25.45 @ Scan.co.uk)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-X79-UP4 ATX LGA2011 Motherboard (£163.55 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£247.58 @ Scan.co.uk)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (£99.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£51.98 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB Video Card (£519.99 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Corsair Carbide Series 300R Windowed ATX Mid Tower Case (£63.97 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£64.99 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £1650.68
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-03-24 21:00 GMT+0000)
 
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Thats amazing man thanks a lot. Looks like with that set up i can afford the better graphics card. It says 870ti supports open GL, which is the same as cuda right. So will it work along with my cpu on rendering and things. Will it be nearly as good as the 580 or better. Thanks again for help. Ill probably build it pretty much as uv set it up. lol
 
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Yes, I believe so.
Newer technologies will be supported for longer by its designer aka Nvidia in this case. Driver plays a huge role for optimization for software to use the GPU.
I would still recommend the newer card for now, and save the money for a future Maxwell card, the Maxwell cards will definitely do you better in all aspects once its stable with its price.
 
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This. When the Maxwell cards come out you will not regret it!
 
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Hay man, i just found this card on Amazon - Asus Nvidia GeForce 2GB GTX 680 DirectCU II OC Graphics Card. Its cheaper and on this CUDA benchmark it does better than the 780 and the 580. http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/geforce-gtx-780-ti-review-benchmarks,review-32820-14.html

Whats that all about? Is that the one, or is it missing something that the others aren't. Cheer again
 
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