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March 24, 2014 10:32:04 AM

Hi,
I am planning on building a gaming PC for <£800. I think I might have decided in the specs, but I would like other people's opinions on things like Will the components I have chosen work together? What games will it be able to play and at what settings/FPS? Is there a way I could improve it but keep it under £800?

Here are the specs:
Processor: AMD FX8350
Motherboard: Asus M5A97 R2.0
HDD: WD 1TB 3.5 inch
RAM: Kingston Technology 8 GB 2400 MHz CL11 (2x4GB)
PSU: Corsair Builder Series CXM 600W
Graphics Card: EVGA Nvidia GeForce GTX 770 4GB GDDR5
Case: Zalman Z11 (This case comes with fans so no need to buy any of them.)
Wireless Card: Asus PCE-N15
DVD Drive: Samsung 24x Retail

Everything on that list adds up to £783.

Thanks!

One quick update: I do not want an AMD GPU, nor do I plan on overclocking anything
a b 4 Gaming
March 24, 2014 10:43:29 AM

Change to FX-8320, it's the same thing but clocked lower.
Get a CPU cooler as FX chips tend to run hot.
Change RAM to cheaper 1600 CL9 or 8.
Change PSU to XFX/Antec/Corsair TX/Corsair HX.
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March 24, 2014 10:44:37 AM

What games do you plan on playing? And I would swap out the PSU for one by SeaSonic-- the Builder series isn't the best PSU, and SeaSonic is a good brand. I would find you an exact model, but it'd be in USD because I'm in the 'Merica's.
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a b 4 Gaming
March 24, 2014 10:45:21 AM

This is what I would recommend

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor (£105.59 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£25.45 @ Scan.co.uk)
Motherboard: Asus M5A99FX PRO R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard (£99.99 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£61.85 @ Ebuyer)
Storage: Crucial M500 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (£52.98 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£42.99 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card (£257.00 @ Ebuyer)
Case: Zalman Z11 ATX Mid Tower Case (£49.16 @ Dabs)
Power Supply: XFX 650W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£63.73 @ Aria PC)
Total: £758.74
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-03-24 17:48 GMT+0000)

-Fx 8320 is the same as fx8350 but the 8350 has a stock overclock, you can overclock the 8320 to the same speed.
-Slightly better motherboard
-Added SSD for faster boot up and applications
-Dual channel ram runs faster than a single ram stick
-Better quality PSU but not modular
-gtx 770 2gb, 4gb is only needed if you plan to SLI or have a multi monitor setup. I am assuming no SLI since the motherboard you chose does not support it (the one in my build does) If you want the 770 4gb it is better to save up a bit more and get the gtx 780 for a bit more

-didnt include the dvd or wifi card in the build
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March 24, 2014 10:46:14 AM

That rig will play all of the newest games and it shouldn't have a problem.

1TB is enough for gaming so is 8GB of RAM, If I may suggest buy two 4GB ram sticks because 2 x 4GB is a little (REALLY LITTLE) better/faster then 1 x 8GB.

Meaby I'm being dumb but I'd go for a 650w 80+ Bronze PSU instead of a 600w to be safe (Corsair is ok, Fractal Design and Seasonic would be awesome.
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a b 4 Gaming
March 24, 2014 9:51:16 PM

Wisecracker said:
If you buy an FX-6300 and an Asus M5A97 (not LE), you have entered R9 290 territory with the same budget :)  Yowsa !

With your current build, choosing the Sapphire Dual-X AMD Radeon R9 280X OC at £222 brings the Samsung 840 EVO 120GB into play for around £805 total.

That'll work :D 

edit: :lol: 
I inter-mixed your build with numanator -- I've confused myself!




The 770 is a bit cheaper though and will provide pretty much the same performance.
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March 25, 2014 8:58:24 AM

sora said:
Wisecracker said:
If you buy an FX-6300 and an Asus M5A97 (not LE), you have entered R9 290 territory with the same budget :)  Yowsa !

With your current build, choosing the Sapphire Dual-X AMD Radeon R9 280X OC at £222 brings the Samsung 840 EVO 120GB into play for around £805 total.

That'll work :D 

edit: :lol: 
I inter-mixed your build with numanator -- I've confused myself!




The 770 is a bit cheaper though and will provide pretty much the same performance.


Your name is awesome.
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March 27, 2014 12:23:47 PM

numanator said:
This is what I would recommend

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor (£105.59 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£25.45 @ Scan.co.uk)
Motherboard: Asus M5A99FX PRO R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard (£99.99 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£61.85 @ Ebuyer)
Storage: Crucial M500 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (£52.98 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£42.99 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card (£257.00 @ Ebuyer)
Case: Zalman Z11 ATX Mid Tower Case (£49.16 @ Dabs)
Power Supply: XFX 650W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£63.73 @ Aria PC)
Total: £758.74
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-03-24 17:48 GMT+0000)

-Fx 8320 is the same as fx8350 but the 8350 has a stock overclock, you can overclock the 8320 to the same speed.
-Slightly better motherboard
-Added SSD for faster boot up and applications
-Dual channel ram runs faster than a single ram stick
-Better quality PSU but not modular
-gtx 770 2gb, 4gb is only needed if you plan to SLI or have a multi monitor setup. I am assuming no SLI since the motherboard you chose does not support it (the one in my build does) If you want the 770 4gb it is better to save up a bit more and get the gtx 780 for a bit more

-didnt include the dvd or wifi card in the build


I do want to get 4GB graphics card as I plan on playing games that are not yet released on ultra settings like watch dogs and I have heard that you need 4GB of vram to do so. I do not plan on getting anything better than a GTX 770 as it will go over my budget by quite a bit. The memory I have chosen is 2x4gb sticks I guess I should have mentioned that in the description for it. Another thing I should have mentioned is that I am new to a lot of this stuff as my friend just built a gaming PC of his own and he gave me inspiration. I am not as nooby as some people but there is still a lot of stuff I don't understand.
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a b 4 Gaming
March 27, 2014 12:39:28 PM

VRAM only affects performance when playing games at higher resolutions, such as 3 x 1080p or 2 x 1440p or 4k. If neither one of them is going to be your resolution, then 2 GB is sufficient.
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March 27, 2014 12:43:24 PM

IDontUnderstand said:
VRAM only affects performance when playing games at higher resolutions, such as 3 x 1080p or 2 x 1440p or 4k. If neither one of them is going to be your resolution, then 2 GB is sufficient.



Wow that's a relief; I thought I was gonna have to get a 4gb graphics card but 1920x1080 will for sure be the highest resolution I play games on. I do plan on getting games that have not yet been released, on ultra settings, so are you sure i will be ok for that with only 2gb?
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a b 4 Gaming
March 27, 2014 12:48:20 PM

Yes.

Here is my version for cheaper and better.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor (£105.59 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£25.45 @ Scan.co.uk)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard (£89.99 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£59.68 @ Ebuyer)
Storage: Crucial M500 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (£52.98 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£35.99 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card (£249.99 @ Dabs)
Case: Zalman Z11 Plus ATX Mid Tower Case (£47.95 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 620W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£59.35 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £726.97
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-03-27 19:47 GMT+0000)
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March 27, 2014 1:40:45 PM

IDontUnderstand said:
Yes.

Here is my version for cheaper and better.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor (£105.59 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£25.45 @ Scan.co.uk)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard (£89.99 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£59.68 @ Ebuyer)
Storage: Crucial M500 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (£52.98 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£35.99 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card (£249.99 @ Dabs)
Case: Zalman Z11 Plus ATX Mid Tower Case (£47.95 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 620W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£59.35 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £726.97
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-03-27 19:47 GMT+0000)


The ram I chose is 2400 mhz and the ram you chose is 1600mhz. Doesn't this mean that the one I chose is faster? (I am new to this kind of thing.)
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a b 4 Gaming
March 27, 2014 3:57:05 PM

The ram speed is important but equally important is the CAS Latency or CL

Note: the following is a simplification

If you check out the CAS Latency wiki it has some pretty good info : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CAS_latency

Basically if you look at the chart there you can figure out that CL 11 ram at 2000 would have a lag time of 11 nano seconds (ns) and CL 9 ram at 1600 would have a lag time of 11.25 ns.

Frankly this difference is pretty negligible.

Also, doing some rough calcs for 2400Mhz ram at CL 11 you come up with 9.2 ns vs 11.25 ns with CL 9 1600 Mhz

So yes the ram you chose is faster, but is the 2 ns worth the extra cost? That is up to you.

Also, I believe the ram you chose is 1.65v ram so I am not sure if it is supported by the mobo and cpu (I know for a fact that you want 1.5v for the intel cpus).
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a b 4 Gaming
March 27, 2014 4:10:29 PM

Indeed, RAM speed and frequency impacts APU's performance the most, but not much outside of that.

AMD doesn't care what voltage your RAM is, as long as it's not some crazy voltage.
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a b 4 Gaming
March 27, 2014 4:13:58 PM

IDontUnderstand said:
Indeed, RAM speed and frequency impacts APU's performance the most, but not much outside of that.

AMD doesn't care what voltage your RAM is, as long as it's not some crazy voltage.


Good to know about the AMD ram :) 
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March 28, 2014 8:29:52 AM

So does everyone think that I should go for IDontUnderstand's build?
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March 28, 2014 10:19:32 AM

IDontUnderstand said:
Change to FX-8320, it's the same thing but clocked lower.
Get a CPU cooler as FX chips tend to run hot.
Change RAM to cheaper 1600 CL9 or 8.
Change PSU to XFX/Antec/Corsair TX/Corsair HX.


FX-8320 is 12% worse than the FX-8350.
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a b 4 Gaming
March 28, 2014 10:35:42 AM

Rami Zerker Reini said:
IDontUnderstand said:
Change to FX-8320, it's the same thing but clocked lower.
Get a CPU cooler as FX chips tend to run hot.
Change RAM to cheaper 1600 CL9 or 8.
Change PSU to XFX/Antec/Corsair TX/Corsair HX.


FX-8320 is 12% worse than the FX-8350.


Right. Because the 8350 is a 8320 with a stock overclock...

That overclock can be easily achieved however at extreme OC settings the 8350 will come out on top. I did read somewhere that the 8350 can more consistently get a higher OC than the 8320 but the performance difference is usually not worth the price difference.

Edit: Some comparisons for those interested:

http://www.cpu-world.com/Compare/308/AMD_FX-Series_FX-8...

http://www.overclock.net/t/1428859/a-comparison-8320-vs...
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March 28, 2014 10:43:09 AM

numanator said:
Rami Zerker Reini said:
IDontUnderstand said:
Change to FX-8320, it's the same thing but clocked lower.
Get a CPU cooler as FX chips tend to run hot.
Change RAM to cheaper 1600 CL9 or 8.
Change PSU to XFX/Antec/Corsair TX/Corsair HX.


FX-8320 is 12% worse than the FX-8350.


Right. Because the 8350 is a 8320 with a stock overclock...

That overclock can be easily achieved however at extreme OC settings the 8350 will come out on top. I did read somewhere that the 8350 can more consistently get a higher OC than the 8320 but the performance difference is usually not worth the price difference.

Edit: Some comparisons for those interested:

http://www.cpu-world.com/Compare/308/AMD_FX-Series_FX-8...

http://www.overclock.net/t/1428859/a-comparison-8320-vs...


But the CPU cooler costs £25 and the FX 8350 is £35 more than the FX 8320 but my friend got it and it comes with its own cooler, so would I be better off just paying the extra tenner for the 8350?
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a b 4 Gaming
March 28, 2014 11:07:20 AM

Both the 8320 and 8350 run pretty hot so it is recommended to grab a cpu cooler anyways for either one. Honestly it is a personal choice. If you don't plan to OC the cpu then go with the 8350, else you can save a $30 to put towards a cooler to OC the 8320.
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March 28, 2014 12:05:11 PM

You should never use a stock cooler unless if you can't afford an aftermarket one at the moment. They do the job barely, aftermarket coolers are the best :3
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March 28, 2014 12:23:58 PM

zed77ultra said:
Rami Zerker Reini said:
You should never use a stock cooler unless if you can't afford an aftermarket one at the moment. They do the job barely, aftermarket coolers are the best :3


does this look any good?
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Titan-Universal-CPU-Cooler-PWM/...


I thing the CPU would demolish that CPU cooler, I recommend this.

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http://www.amazon.co.uk/noctua-NH-U12S/dp/B00C76RL5M/re...
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Believe me, It's worth it.
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March 28, 2014 12:38:18 PM

Rami Zerker Reini said:
zed77ultra said:
Rami Zerker Reini said:
You should never use a stock cooler unless if you can't afford an aftermarket one at the moment. They do the job barely, aftermarket coolers are the best :3


does this look any good?
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Titan-Universal-CPU-Cooler-PWM/...


I thing the CPU would demolish that CPU cooler, I recommend this.

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http://www.amazon.co.uk/noctua-NH-U12S/dp/B00C76RL5M/re...
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Believe me, It's worth it.


I'm not spending £60 on a cooler! I won't even be overclocking my CPU!
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March 28, 2014 12:52:54 PM

zed77ultra said:
Rami Zerker Reini said:
zed77ultra said:
Rami Zerker Reini said:
You should never use a stock cooler unless if you can't afford an aftermarket one at the moment. They do the job barely, aftermarket coolers are the best :3


does this look any good?
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Titan-Universal-CPU-Cooler-PWM/...


I thing the CPU would demolish that CPU cooler, I recommend this.

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http://www.amazon.co.uk/noctua-NH-U12S/dp/B00C76RL5M/re...
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Believe me, It's worth it.


I'm not spending £60 on a cooler! I won't even be overclocking my CPU!


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http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-120mm/d...
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Then buy this.
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March 28, 2014 12:58:19 PM

Rami Zerker Reini said:
Swartz55 said:
What about the Hyper212 EVO? I've heard that's a good cooler. http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/3Cjv


It's the best of the cheap coolers and yeah it's good :) 


Will I be able to use it nicely with my 8350? (I will not be overclocking it.)
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March 28, 2014 1:17:36 PM

zed77ultra said:
Rami Zerker Reini said:
Swartz55 said:
What about the Hyper212 EVO? I've heard that's a good cooler. http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/3Cjv


It's the best of the cheap coolers and yeah it's good :) 


Will I be able to use it nicely with my 8350? (I will not be overclocking it.)


It's compatible with your MoBo wich means you can install it and since you're not going to be OC'ing that CPU cooler should be enough for you.
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a b 4 Gaming
March 28, 2014 1:45:45 PM

Looks solid, enjoy!
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March 28, 2014 2:28:29 PM

Any ideas on how to make use of a 240GB SSD? I just doubled the size of it because I still had a bit of room left in my budget.
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March 28, 2014 2:35:25 PM

zed77ultra said:
Any ideas on how to make use of a 240GB SSD? I just doubled the size of it because I still had a bit of room left in my budget.


Well, you'll want to throw your OS in there for sure and meaby the games you play the most so you can get the max speed out of them.
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March 28, 2014 2:41:47 PM

Rami Zerker Reini said:
zed77ultra said:
Any ideas on how to make use of a 240GB SSD? I just doubled the size of it because I still had a bit of room left in my budget.


Well, you'll want to throw your OS in there for sure and meaby the games you play the most so you can get the max speed out of them.


What about the drivers?
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March 28, 2014 2:50:21 PM

zed77ultra said:
Rami Zerker Reini said:
zed77ultra said:
Any ideas on how to make use of a 240GB SSD? I just doubled the size of it because I still had a bit of room left in my budget.


Well, you'll want to throw your OS in there for sure and meaby the games you play the most so you can get the max speed out of them.


What about the drivers?


What drivers?
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March 28, 2014 2:57:07 PM

Rami Zerker Reini said:
zed77ultra said:
Rami Zerker Reini said:
zed77ultra said:
Any ideas on how to make use of a 240GB SSD? I just doubled the size of it because I still had a bit of room left in my budget.


Well, you'll want to throw your OS in there for sure and meaby the games you play the most so you can get the max speed out of them.


What about the drivers?


What drivers?


Stuff like my graphics card driver
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March 28, 2014 3:16:24 PM

zed77ultra said:
Rami Zerker Reini said:
zed77ultra said:
Rami Zerker Reini said:
zed77ultra said:
Any ideas on how to make use of a 240GB SSD? I just doubled the size of it because I still had a bit of room left in my budget.


Well, you'll want to throw your OS in there for sure and meaby the games you play the most so you can get the max speed out of them.


What about the drivers?


What drivers?


Stuff like my graphics card driver


Umm.. nothing I guess since you've probably installed drivers for your GPU so you don't have to keep the installer on your PC.
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March 28, 2014 3:18:56 PM

Trust your drivers to go where they need to, don't need to worry about where your drivers are stored/installed.
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March 29, 2014 3:14:05 AM

And I know that 2gb of vram is enough for now but will it be enough in the future for running games on ultra settings at 1920x1080 resolution? I want my rig to be future-proofed for games that are going to come out in a few years time.
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March 29, 2014 3:55:25 AM

zed77ultra said:
And I know that 2gb of vram is enough for now but will it be enough in the future for running games on ultra settings at 1920x1080 resolution? I want my rig to be future-proofed for games that are going to come out in a few years time.


If you can, get a 4GB VRAM GPU because 2GB of VRAM isn't going to be enough soon. I'd rather have a GTX 760 4GB instead of a GTX 770 2GB for example.
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March 29, 2014 7:44:13 AM

Rami Zerker Reini said:
zed77ultra said:
And I know that 2gb of vram is enough for now but will it be enough in the future for running games on ultra settings at 1920x1080 resolution? I want my rig to be future-proofed for games that are going to come out in a few years time.


If you can, get a 4GB VRAM GPU because 2GB of VRAM isn't going to be enough soon. I'd rather have a GTX 760 4GB instead of a GTX 770 2GB for example.


Well then I think I'll wait a while until I can afford that build just with a 4GB GPU instead.
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March 29, 2014 7:47:41 AM

zed77ultra said:
Rami Zerker Reini said:
zed77ultra said:
And I know that 2gb of vram is enough for now but will it be enough in the future for running games on ultra settings at 1920x1080 resolution? I want my rig to be future-proofed for games that are going to come out in a few years time.


If you can, get a 4GB VRAM GPU because 2GB of VRAM isn't going to be enough soon. I'd rather have a GTX 760 4GB instead of a GTX 770 2GB for example.


Well then I think I'll wait a while until I can afford that build just with a 4GB GPU instead.


Not a bad choice at all and it will make the rig a bit more future proof.
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March 29, 2014 7:51:12 AM

Rami Zerker Reini said:
zed77ultra said:
And I know that 2gb of vram is enough for now but will it be enough in the future for running games on ultra settings at 1920x1080 resolution? I want my rig to be future-proofed for games that are going to come out in a few years time.


If you can, get a 4GB VRAM GPU because 2GB of VRAM isn't going to be enough soon. I'd rather have a GTX 760 4GB instead of a GTX 770 2GB for example.


Or will 3GB of vram be enough? Because if it will be I might as well just save up some extra money and go all out on the GTX 780
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March 29, 2014 8:05:09 AM

zed77ultra said:
Rami Zerker Reini said:
zed77ultra said:
And I know that 2gb of vram is enough for now but will it be enough in the future for running games on ultra settings at 1920x1080 resolution? I want my rig to be future-proofed for games that are going to come out in a few years time.


If you can, get a 4GB VRAM GPU because 2GB of VRAM isn't going to be enough soon. I'd rather have a GTX 760 4GB instead of a GTX 770 2GB for example.


Or will 3GB of vram be enough? Because if it will be I might as well just save up some extra money and go all out on the GTX 780


3GB is the amount used at the moment (BF4 for example uses 3GB of VRAM if you have the amount) so I guess it's ok if you want to buy a GTX 780.
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March 30, 2014 2:35:51 AM

Rami Zerker Reini said:
zed77ultra said:
Rami Zerker Reini said:
zed77ultra said:
And I know that 2gb of vram is enough for now but will it be enough in the future for running games on ultra settings at 1920x1080 resolution? I want my rig to be future-proofed for games that are going to come out in a few years time.


If you can, get a 4GB VRAM GPU because 2GB of VRAM isn't going to be enough soon. I'd rather have a GTX 760 4GB instead of a GTX 770 2GB for example.


Or will 3GB of vram be enough? Because if it will be I might as well just save up some extra money and go all out on the GTX 780


3GB is the amount used at the moment (BF4 for example uses 3GB of VRAM if you have the amount) so I guess it's ok if you want to buy a GTX 780.


How long do you think it will take for games to be using more than 3 gb of vram? If it isn't a long way off, then I will just go with the 4GB 770.
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March 30, 2014 3:56:58 AM

zed77ultra said:
Rami Zerker Reini said:
zed77ultra said:
Rami Zerker Reini said:
zed77ultra said:
And I know that 2gb of vram is enough for now but will it be enough in the future for running games on ultra settings at 1920x1080 resolution? I want my rig to be future-proofed for games that are going to come out in a few years time.


If you can, get a 4GB VRAM GPU because 2GB of VRAM isn't going to be enough soon. I'd rather have a GTX 760 4GB instead of a GTX 770 2GB for example.


Or will 3GB of vram be enough? Because if it will be I might as well just save up some extra money and go all out on the GTX 780


3GB is the amount used at the moment (BF4 for example uses 3GB of VRAM if you have the amount) so I guess it's ok if you want to buy a GTX 780.


How long do you think it will take for games to be using more than 3 gb of vram? If it isn't a long way off, then I will just go with the 4GB 770.


GTX 770 is good enough for everything you throw at it so 4GB of VRAM is a better option to be a bit of more future proof.
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