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Why you would want to share files in your network or need to?

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March 25, 2014 1:33:18 AM

hi, hi
here is something for you that may be puzzling --

because i am not sure why you would want to share files in your network or need to.

so the question is, why you would want to share files in your network or need to?

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a b G Storage
March 25, 2014 1:47:57 AM

Well, you might be help captive on a Klingon ship and they have a lasergun pointed at your head to obtain the secret weapon diagrams. You tell them that you can get into your computer at work, but since the files are stored on joe schomes and you do not have access to the file on joe schome's, then guess what Too bad. Just a joke, but just a point to make it that you may want access to certain files. .

There are lots of reasons to share some files.
A shared location of certain files can be helpful as it reduces duplication of storage space (by having the files in one location accessible by whoever you want, instead of having the files on 10 different computers, which would be wasteful. You don't need the same 100 music albums/songs stored on 10 different computers. All that you need is one storage area, and access to those those albums given to the appropriate user(s).

I'm tired right now, so i'll let you think about it......

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March 25, 2014 1:50:55 AM

As above, basically.

I've got at least 5 devices that play music. There's no reason all of them need to have the ~30GiB stored locally. Instead they grab it off a NAS.

Also, it can tend to help with backups.
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March 25, 2014 9:59:01 PM

;) hi danny2000, thanks for the reply,

oh, wow, now that is a good idea:
you can increase the amount of storage capacity that you have.

the downside however, is that you have to be running and have turned on, ALL 10 computers...

howdy Someone Somewhere, good to see you,

what is a NAS?
is this some sort of online storage site or something?

SECURITY

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a b G Storage
March 25, 2014 10:15:34 PM

James T Kirk USS Enterprise said:
;) hi danny2000, thanks for the reply,

oh, wow, now that is a good idea:
you can increase the amount of storage capacity that you have.

the downside however, is that you have to be running and have turned on, ALL 10 computers...


If you had the files stored on all 10 computers, and instead put them on one computer with shared access, you would have eliminated it being stored on 9 of the computers. In order to access the files, you only need two computers (or hard drives) turned on: The one where the files are located and shared, and also the computer that you are using to access the shared files.


Are you a troll? That's what you sound like now to me.

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March 25, 2014 10:48:14 PM

NAS=Network Attached Storage. Basically a box with a lot of HDDs and not a lot of CPU/GPU. Always on.

You store only the minimum of files on the client PCs.
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March 26, 2014 10:30:24 PM

:p hi danny2000,
i figured it out.
however, until you said that, i didn't realize that you could increase your storage space,
nor, as Someone Somewhere said, that online storage "counted" as being on your network.

maybe you already knew that, but, as a beginner in the network administrator field, i didnt know that.
thanks for telling me.

hello Someone Somewhere,

ok, so its online storage space.
thanks.
wasn't quite sure.

do you think online storage web sites are safe?

White Hat ;) 


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March 27, 2014 12:03:18 AM

No, it's not online storage space. No chance, and I hold the opinion that online storage is not where I want my files to live - too much opportunity for data mining, plus super slow.

It's a box that you stick next to your router, or somewhere in your own house. QNAP, Thecus, Synology, and a few others make them, or you can build your own.
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March 27, 2014 11:25:55 PM

Well, it's a lot more convenient than using a flash drive or external hard drive. Also keeps all files the same version.
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March 29, 2014 2:03:03 AM

hi is you Someone Somewhere, i'm glad to be able to talk to you again!

as i don't know much about online storage (because its a new thing), its nice to hear what other people have to say about it::na: 
its "super slow"? didn't know that/think of that/that that might even be a possibility. huh, interesting.

yea, i'm like you -- i don't much like online storage for my files either. data mining...... (which means that even if your computer is SECURE -- the place/computer where it is stored may not be!), i'm assuming that this is similar to what you mean.

oh, so NAS is a physical device. okay. hmmm. like a create a hotspot, or that sort of thing?

hi montosaurous, nice to meet.

well, i can say that there is at least one useful function for it, not counting your idea = #2; and that is that if you have 30 tb of data, its kind of hard to back up that amount of data!

#3: also, you only store data that you don't care about other people seeing/getting -- if they "happen" to data mine it

GOD IS MY SHIELD
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March 29, 2014 2:06:11 AM

Because everything has to go over your internet connection, and most have useless upload speeds.

A NAS is just a computer with a pile of disk drives, usually without a screen connected, and with purpose built software.
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March 30, 2014 12:14:58 AM

hi,

so NAS is a 100-500 terra box of drives that acts as a client.
so basicallys, it like a "presto" here is a server; as in, instant server in a matter of seconds.

never heard of this kind of instant presto, here is a server now kind of device.
this is all new to me.

i didn't even think they had this sort of thing!:na: 

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March 30, 2014 12:16:34 AM

I'm completely lost as to what you're referring to...

It's basically just a file server.
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a b G Storage
March 30, 2014 7:24:57 AM

James T Kirk USS Enterprise said:
hi,

so NAS is a 100-500 terra box of drives that acts as a client.
so basicallys, it like a "presto" here is a server; as in, instant server in a matter of seconds.

never heard of this kind of instant presto, here is a server now kind of device.
this is all new to me.

i didn't even think they had this sort of thing!:na: 



No, not at all

Either we are getting a situation where English is not a first language or we are being trolled.
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March 30, 2014 10:30:41 PM

:wahoo: Someone Somewhere, hello.

just to clarify:
that's what i meant -- server, not "client": beginners typo.

so its an instant server device then huh?, as in, with this physical device, you can CREATE a server (be able to)...
[never knew they even had those!!!!] WOW

dear smitbret,

i'm sorry i'm not as smart as you.
for an EXPERT network administrator, yes, it could sound stupid.

quote from a wise man:
"remember that not everyone is as wise a you"

CYBER SECURITY GUARD
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March 30, 2014 10:31:54 PM

It s a server. It's a file server. It does not create one, and is most certainly not instant.

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March 31, 2014 2:13:40 AM

Imagine a NAS as wireless HDDs, which every computer in the network can connect to (if giving permissions ofc).

I myself are running my backups on my NAS and my private online server (incase I'm out of the house and needs something), (you could also use a VPN to your network and do it that way, but since I already have a VPS I might aswell use it).

Using big companies online storage might result in them looking for keywords for advertisement or something similar, it is completely safe for the general user.

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a b G Storage
March 31, 2014 6:28:30 AM

James T Kirk USS Enterprise said:
:wahoo: Someone Somewhere, hello.

just to clarify:
that's what i meant -- server, not "client": beginners typo.

so its an instant server device then huh?, as in, with this physical device, you can CREATE a server (be able to)...
[never knew they even had those!!!!] WOW

dear smitbret,

i'm sorry i'm not as smart as you.
for an EXPERT network administrator, yes, it could sound stupid.

quote from a wise man:
"remember that not everyone is as wise a you"

CYBER SECURITY GUARD


This is not high level network administration.

I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt that there is a language barrier of some kind here because your conclusions are not based on ANY information that anyone has given you and seems like an inability to interpret the information that has been provided. I would be more than happy to make it as simple as possible.

Why
Let's say that you have 4 family members and each one has their own laptop. Let's say that you have a collection of digital photographs of family event(s) and each person would like to access to the photos from time to time. You have a few choices:
1) You could either save the entire collection on each PC and everyone just shares
2) You could save the colletion on DVD/CD, flash drive or other portable media and you could pass it around like a library book as each person wants to use or view the files
3) You could simply save one copy of the photo collection on a NAS/Server and let each person connect to that NAS/Server through your network.

You could certainly just keep the files on one computer in the network or even spread them out over all 4 of the laptops and just set the folders to share between everyone. Problems start to arise when no one is sure where a certain file is stored. Was it on Bobby's computer or was it on Stacy's?

Then, what happens if Bobby has the file you want, but he has shut his PC off or took it with him on a trip? No one can access the files on Bobby's PC until he returns and/or turns the PC back on and reconnects to the network.

Once problems like this start to pop up, then it may be time for someone to look at a NAS/Server/Cloud Storage that is 24/7 and never leaves its physical location.

What
The terms NAS and Server are often used interchangably since the main purpose for both is to provide centrailized storage that Clients (the laptops from the above example) are able to access. Think of them as just big HDDs with tons of information that don't do much besides wait for another computer to ask for the information.

The NAS/Server can be as simple as a flash drive plugged into the back of a router on your home network or it can be as distant and complicated as a cloud storage service like Backblaze or MS SkyDrive that holds your files in another country for access through the internet.

There are several cloud storage devices on the market from companies like Western Digital and Seagate that are nothing more than an external HDD and a wireless adapter in a single, tidy box. It connects wirelessly to the network and just sits there waiting for someone to read or write to the HDD.

I have a PC tower with 6 x HDDs that provides me with 8TB of storage. It is connected directly to my router via a Cat6 cable. It looks like just another computer on my network. Size has nothing to do with whether it is a server or not.

You can also purchase NAS boxes from manufacturers like Synology, Qnap, NetGear, etc., that you fill with your choice of drives. They connect directly to your router with an ethernet cable and do the same thing.... just sit there and wait for a client device to ask for a file or save a file to them.

Beyond that are the cloud service that you would access through the internet. They are popular because they are generally pretty inexpensive, very reliable and you are able to access the files from anywhere that has an internet connection. Their concept and basic setup is not that much different than a NAS/Server that you could set up in your home except they are magitudes larger and more complicated to maintain and administer.

A well setup NAS/Server is very convenient and will behave just like another drive in your computer. It is accesible in any file explorer and you can even setup shortcuts to files and folders just like you would for anything on the local PC.

If you have a specific situation that you would like help with, please let us know.
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March 31, 2014 9:44:39 PM

You could also set up an FTP server, which is very useful in it's own right.
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