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Why you would want to share files in your network or need to?

hi, hi
here is something for you that may be puzzling --

because i am not sure why you would want to share files in your network or need to.

so the question is, why you would want to share files in your network or need to?
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  1. Well, you might be help captive on a Klingon ship and they have a lasergun pointed at your head to obtain the secret weapon diagrams. You tell them that you can get into your computer at work, but since the files are stored on joe schomes and you do not have access to the file on joe schome's, then guess what Too bad. Just a joke, but just a point to make it that you may want access to certain files. .

    There are lots of reasons to share some files.
    A shared location of certain files can be helpful as it reduces duplication of storage space (by having the files in one location accessible by whoever you want, instead of having the files on 10 different computers, which would be wasteful. You don't need the same 100 music albums/songs stored on 10 different computers. All that you need is one storage area, and access to those those albums given to the appropriate user(s).

    I'm tired right now, so i'll let you think about it......
  2. As above, basically.

    I've got at least 5 devices that play music. There's no reason all of them need to have the ~30GiB stored locally. Instead they grab it off a NAS.

    Also, it can tend to help with backups.
  3. ;)hi danny2000, thanks for the reply,

    oh, wow, now that is a good idea:
    you can increase the amount of storage capacity that you have.

    the downside however, is that you have to be running and have turned on, ALL 10 computers...

    howdy Someone Somewhere, good to see you,

    what is a NAS?
    is this some sort of online storage site or something?

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  4. James T Kirk USS Enterprise said:
    ;)hi danny2000, thanks for the reply,

    oh, wow, now that is a good idea:
    you can increase the amount of storage capacity that you have.

    the downside however, is that you have to be running and have turned on, ALL 10 computers...


    If you had the files stored on all 10 computers, and instead put them on one computer with shared access, you would have eliminated it being stored on 9 of the computers. In order to access the files, you only need two computers (or hard drives) turned on: The one where the files are located and shared, and also the computer that you are using to access the shared files.


    Are you a troll? That's what you sound like now to me.
  5. NAS=Network Attached Storage. Basically a box with a lot of HDDs and not a lot of CPU/GPU. Always on.

    You store only the minimum of files on the client PCs.
  6. :phi danny2000,
    i figured it out.
    however, until you said that, i didn't realize that you could increase your storage space,
    nor, as Someone Somewhere said, that online storage "counted" as being on your network.

    maybe you already knew that, but, as a beginner in the network administrator field, i didnt know that.
    thanks for telling me.

    hello Someone Somewhere,

    ok, so its online storage space.
    thanks.
    wasn't quite sure.

    do you think online storage web sites are safe?

    White Hat ;)
  7. No, it's not online storage space. No chance, and I hold the opinion that online storage is not where I want my files to live - too much opportunity for data mining, plus super slow.

    It's a box that you stick next to your router, or somewhere in your own house. QNAP, Thecus, Synology, and a few others make them, or you can build your own.
  8. Well, it's a lot more convenient than using a flash drive or external hard drive. Also keeps all files the same version.
  9. hi is you Someone Somewhere, i'm glad to be able to talk to you again!

    as i don't know much about online storage (because its a new thing), its nice to hear what other people have to say about it::na:
    its "super slow"? didn't know that/think of that/that that might even be a possibility. huh, interesting.

    yea, i'm like you -- i don't much like online storage for my files either. data mining...... (which means that even if your computer is SECURE -- the place/computer where it is stored may not be!), i'm assuming that this is similar to what you mean.

    oh, so NAS is a physical device. okay. hmmm. like a create a hotspot, or that sort of thing?

    hi montosaurous, nice to meet.

    well, i can say that there is at least one useful function for it, not counting your idea = #2; and that is that if you have 30 tb of data, its kind of hard to back up that amount of data!

    #3: also, you only store data that you don't care about other people seeing/getting -- if they "happen" to data mine it

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  10. Because everything has to go over your internet connection, and most have useless upload speeds.

    A NAS is just a computer with a pile of disk drives, usually without a screen connected, and with purpose built software.
  11. hi,

    so NAS is a 100-500 terra box of drives that acts as a client.
    so basicallys, it like a "presto" here is a server; as in, instant server in a matter of seconds.

    never heard of this kind of instant presto, here is a server now kind of device.
    this is all new to me.

    i didn't even think they had this sort of thing!:na:
  12. I'm completely lost as to what you're referring to...

    It's basically just a file server.
  13. James T Kirk USS Enterprise said:
    hi,

    so NAS is a 100-500 terra box of drives that acts as a client.
    so basicallys, it like a "presto" here is a server; as in, instant server in a matter of seconds.

    never heard of this kind of instant presto, here is a server now kind of device.
    this is all new to me.

    i didn't even think they had this sort of thing!:na:



    No, not at all

    Either we are getting a situation where English is not a first language or we are being trolled.
  14. :wahoo:Someone Somewhere, hello.

    just to clarify:
    that's what i meant -- server, not "client": beginners typo.

    so its an instant server device then huh?, as in, with this physical device, you can CREATE a server (be able to)...
    [never knew they even had those!!!!] WOW

    dear smitbret,

    i'm sorry i'm not as smart as you.
    for an EXPERT network administrator, yes, it could sound stupid.

    quote from a wise man:
    "remember that not everyone is as wise a you"

    CYBER SECURITY GUARD
  15. It s a server. It's a file server. It does not create one, and is most certainly not instant.
  16. Imagine a NAS as wireless HDDs, which every computer in the network can connect to (if giving permissions ofc).

    I myself are running my backups on my NAS and my private online server (incase I'm out of the house and needs something), (you could also use a VPN to your network and do it that way, but since I already have a VPS I might aswell use it).

    Using big companies online storage might result in them looking for keywords for advertisement or something similar, it is completely safe for the general user.
  17. James T Kirk USS Enterprise said:
    :wahoo:Someone Somewhere, hello.

    just to clarify:
    that's what i meant -- server, not "client": beginners typo.

    so its an instant server device then huh?, as in, with this physical device, you can CREATE a server (be able to)...
    [never knew they even had those!!!!] WOW

    dear smitbret,

    i'm sorry i'm not as smart as you.
    for an EXPERT network administrator, yes, it could sound stupid.

    quote from a wise man:
    "remember that not everyone is as wise a you"

    CYBER SECURITY GUARD


    This is not high level network administration.

    I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt that there is a language barrier of some kind here because your conclusions are not based on ANY information that anyone has given you and seems like an inability to interpret the information that has been provided. I would be more than happy to make it as simple as possible.

    Why
    Let's say that you have 4 family members and each one has their own laptop. Let's say that you have a collection of digital photographs of family event(s) and each person would like to access to the photos from time to time. You have a few choices:
    1) You could either save the entire collection on each PC and everyone just shares
    2) You could save the colletion on DVD/CD, flash drive or other portable media and you could pass it around like a library book as each person wants to use or view the files
    3) You could simply save one copy of the photo collection on a NAS/Server and let each person connect to that NAS/Server through your network.

    You could certainly just keep the files on one computer in the network or even spread them out over all 4 of the laptops and just set the folders to share between everyone. Problems start to arise when no one is sure where a certain file is stored. Was it on Bobby's computer or was it on Stacy's?

    Then, what happens if Bobby has the file you want, but he has shut his PC off or took it with him on a trip? No one can access the files on Bobby's PC until he returns and/or turns the PC back on and reconnects to the network.

    Once problems like this start to pop up, then it may be time for someone to look at a NAS/Server/Cloud Storage that is 24/7 and never leaves its physical location.

    What
    The terms NAS and Server are often used interchangably since the main purpose for both is to provide centrailized storage that Clients (the laptops from the above example) are able to access. Think of them as just big HDDs with tons of information that don't do much besides wait for another computer to ask for the information.

    The NAS/Server can be as simple as a flash drive plugged into the back of a router on your home network or it can be as distant and complicated as a cloud storage service like Backblaze or MS SkyDrive that holds your files in another country for access through the internet.

    There are several cloud storage devices on the market from companies like Western Digital and Seagate that are nothing more than an external HDD and a wireless adapter in a single, tidy box. It connects wirelessly to the network and just sits there waiting for someone to read or write to the HDD.

    I have a PC tower with 6 x HDDs that provides me with 8TB of storage. It is connected directly to my router via a Cat6 cable. It looks like just another computer on my network. Size has nothing to do with whether it is a server or not.

    You can also purchase NAS boxes from manufacturers like Synology, Qnap, NetGear, etc., that you fill with your choice of drives. They connect directly to your router with an ethernet cable and do the same thing.... just sit there and wait for a client device to ask for a file or save a file to them.

    Beyond that are the cloud service that you would access through the internet. They are popular because they are generally pretty inexpensive, very reliable and you are able to access the files from anywhere that has an internet connection. Their concept and basic setup is not that much different than a NAS/Server that you could set up in your home except they are magitudes larger and more complicated to maintain and administer.

    A well setup NAS/Server is very convenient and will behave just like another drive in your computer. It is accesible in any file explorer and you can even setup shortcuts to files and folders just like you would for anything on the local PC.

    If you have a specific situation that you would like help with, please let us know.
  18. You could also set up an FTP server, which is very useful in it's own right.
  19. smitbret,
    hi bro. glad you made it:D
    wow -- you really described the whole thing.
    i think i understand it a whole lot better now!

    why
    smitbret
    "Problems start to arise when no one is sure where a certain file is stored. Was it on Bobby's computer or was it on Stacy's?
    Then, what happens if Bobby has the file you want, but he has shut his PC off or took it with him on a trip?"
    that's funny.

    smitbret, do you think Cloud Storage is safe (security wise)? SkyDrive?

    what
    smitbret
    "8TB of storage"
    holy crumba! that's more storage than i EVER even dreamed of having. i never even know ANYBODY even had that much storage space. the most that i thought anyone would have would be something like 1TB. but i must say that when the 1TB drive came out, i was impressed -- it was way more storage space than i had expected. i had been used to only having 10gig drives. its like, with only 10gigs, you can barely even have just the bare bones of the OS and may 3-4 programs -- that's it; but more so, especially now, what with W7 trying to hog up to 20gigs of storage space. but this is total impractical and uncalled for, as vista only took up 1 gig of space and the bare minimum of 256mb ram.

    so what's the deal man, why does W7 have to take up 10gigs and more just for the basic install, on top of a 1gig of ram maintentaince. and worse than that, what with these hardware requirements, now you can't even use an old OS like W95, because it practically wont run and "this OS is no longer supported". Just imagine how many updates, and "sticking"/incompatibility and other problems that you'd run into by using W95 as your running OS on your system. but dang -- now there is an OS that took up the "bare minimum" of hardware requirements: so as far as i'm concerned, this is THE best OS that they have ever made. W7 and W8? -- they are just a peice of overrated and unneeded crump. and all those "extra" features and abilities -- its not worth it if you have to waste your entire computer's brain on just trying to run them.

    you can just imagine what it would be like to run W7 with 256mb ram? but why shouldn't you be able to? i know, you need at least 512mb, but with 512mb, just imagine how SLOW your computer would run. and "every" time that you wanted to take a walk in the park on the computer, you'll get jet lag (slowed computer, almost freezing to a stand still). and "supposedly" they say that the reason to make computers is so that they are USER FRIENDLY. does this sound like user friendly to you. and furthermore, constantly changing things around from one OS to the next, so that even when it took you months to figure out how to do it, now you have to "relearn" it again. i don't think much of w7. and w8 is the same thing as w7, except that they changed the name and put another price tag on it.

    smitbret
    "6 x HDDs"
    wow! you have all of these connected to the same computer all at once?
    do you have extra adaptors to be able to fit them all, because these are only 2 slots (connector cords) available?

    so your saying that something "cloud" or another server shows up on your computer under the computer section, as "adding a drive" complete with a drive letter and being able to look at it? or is it just the icon to access the general system (cloud/server/etc. whatever your using)?

    since you know so much about storage -- i guess you would be the guy to ask this question: is it true that you can RUN an OS as your main/only OS by having your OS files (and the "entire" OS program) on cloud, with nothing on your computer? boy--that would sure save a lot of space; what, with 10 and 20 gig OS systems now!!!!

    montosaurous
    hello dude. nice to hear from you.

    montosaurous said
    "FTP server"

    what is the difference between an FTP server and a different one? is one better than the other? why?

    vmN:lol:
    hey bro, glad to see you again!!

    so a VPN is something that you can only use while you are in your house?
    never heard of a VPS (but i'm assuming that it is something similar to VPN)?

    okay, so NAS is a "server": didn't know that. that's the first i heard of it.

    so according to you "big companies" are safe, except for them try to advertise to you, to search all of your data for a chance to be able to sell you something, and for them trying to figure out how to get you to buy something by buying "consumer lists" from other companies to be able to have "access" on HOW to be "able" to send it to you (i.e., an address).

    Someone Somewhere
    hello.

    thanks for the clarification.

    White Hat ;)
  20. Wut.

    Holy wall of incorrect text.
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