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March 25, 2014 6:00:11 AM

I need help in deciding between the two builds listed below. I require a high spec PC mainly for Photoshop and Video Editing.

I need experts to decide for me, bearing in mind the following 3 points:

1) PC is mainly for design work
2) no bottleneck in performance or comprising in quality of products
3) my budget is £1300 (if I increase this then it will eat into my monitor budget of £250-300) overall trying to keep it under £1500.


SPEC 1:

PCPartPicker part list: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/3g6B3

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor (£236.00 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£25.45 @ Scan.co.uk)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD4H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£133.00 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Kingston HyperX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£111.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (£80.89 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (£136.80 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£40.99 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card (£399.00 @ Scan.co.uk)
Case: NZXT Phantom (Black) ATX Full Tower Case (£104.38 @ Scan.co.uk)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 600W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£52.96 @ Amazon UK)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer (£11.79 @ Amazon UK)

Total: £1333.25


SPEC 2:

PCPartPicker part list: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/3g7nk

CPU: Intel Core i7-4930K 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor (£413.18 @ Ebuyer)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£25.45 @ Scan.co.uk)
Motherboard: Asus Sabertooth X79 ATX LGA2011 Motherboard (£233.99 @ Ebuyer)
Memory: Kingston HyperX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£111.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Kingston HyperX 3K 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (£64.52 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (£80.89 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£40.99 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card (£190.33 @ Amazon UK)
Case: NZXT Phantom (Black) ATX Full Tower Case (£104.38 @ Scan.co.uk)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 600W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£52.96 @ Amazon UK)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer (£11.79 @ Amazon UK)

Total: £1330.47
March 25, 2014 6:05:03 AM

CPU: Intel Core i7-4930K 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor (£413.18 @ Ebuyer)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£25.45 @ Scan.co.uk)
Motherboard: Asus Sabertooth X79 ATX LGA2011 Motherboard (£233.99 @ Ebuyer)
Memory: Kingston HyperX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£111.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Kingston HyperX 3K 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (£64.52 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (£80.89 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£40.99 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card (£190.33 @ Amazon UK)
Case: NZXT Phantom (Black) ATX Full Tower Case (£104.38 @ Scan.co.uk)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 600W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£52.96 @ Amazon UK)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer (£11.79 @ Amazon UK)

this build will be much better for Editing/Rendering/Photoshop/Decompression.
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March 25, 2014 6:06:10 AM

How do you plan on using those drives? Why mix in the Kingston? On the surface I would suggest the top build go with a single 840 Pro 256GB, then mirror a pair of Segate 1TB drives for redundancy and storage. Not sure why the split drives... The 840 Pro is very fast and you probably don't really need to split the load.
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March 25, 2014 6:08:35 AM

Also a CX600 is Abit weak for this build Require a better quality That has solid quality capacitors thats 650watts or greater
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March 25, 2014 6:11:48 AM

Choice of Kingston was due to price, are you suggesting same brand gives better performance?

I am planning one SSD for OS and the other for direct working.

IS CPU more important than GPU for design?

Please recommend better components if it is possible or advise if there is likely to be any bottlenecking. Also..

Does the RAM (clock) suits the motherboards or should i go to 1866Mhz?
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March 25, 2014 6:13:24 AM

ModernWarfare said:
Also a CX600 is Abit weak for this build Require a better quality thats 650watts or greater


This build will draw 350w MAX at peak draw. The CX series is bad for other reasons, but certainly not because 600w of power isn't sufficient.

OP, you need to skip the dual 120/128GB SSDs and get a single 240/248GB one. You'll get better speed, and there's no need for dual SSDs.

Definitely get the 4930k, you'll see the performance difference.

You need a better quality power supply. This one is cheaper, and MUCH higher quality: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/xfx-power-supply-p1550s...

I would go for a better CPU cooler as well, if you plan to overclock to get some more performance out of it. If not overclocking, you're fine then :) 
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March 25, 2014 6:14:31 AM

both cpu and gpu plays part in design,rendering. SSD you selected are also good in the first build . . other things in forst build is good except the PSU . it should be this http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/xfx-power-supply-p1650b...
the 1600mhz is good for that . go for the first one with these changes
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March 25, 2014 6:16:11 AM

I wouldn't recommend a second SSD. Especially when videos eat up alot of space and the most crucial thing to put on an SSD would be your OS. 1TB doing primarily video editing will go by so fast, I had a 750GB HDD on my laptop that I used for video editing and it was eating up space like crazy. Plus, the additional 1TB for a 2TB drive is not that much more. I would also recommend Corsair Vengeance RAM, it's actually cheaper and much more well-built with heat-spreadders. My personal preference of high-end case would be the HAF X as well, very roomy, very high air flow (hence HAF) and very sturdy.

Although, the best build of the two would be the 2nd choice with some slight modifications for video editing.
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March 25, 2014 6:17:18 AM

CX600 has bad capacitors not long-life.
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March 25, 2014 6:19:30 AM

CX series does not belong on any "high spec" build...
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March 25, 2014 6:20:10 AM

zAustin said:
I wouldn't recommend a second SSD. Especially when videos eat up alot of space and the most crucial thing to put on an SSD would be your OS. 1TB doing primarily video editing will go by so fast, I had a 750GB HDD on my laptop that I used for video editing and it was eating up space like crazy. Plus, the additional 1TB for a 2TB drive is not that much more.


This is where I am at as well, but would add that doing the video work on the same SSD as the OS isn't going to be a problem. Long term storage would be, but the 840 pro can handle the OS work in parallel with your video editing. Keeping the dedicated SSD would be fine as well.
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March 25, 2014 6:23:06 AM

HiTechObsessed said:
ModernWarfare said:
Also a CX600 is Abit weak for this build Require a better quality thats 650watts or greater


This build will draw 350w MAX at peak draw. The CX series is bad for other reasons, but certainly not because 600w of power isn't sufficient.

OP, you need to skip the dual 120/128GB SSDs and get a single 240/248GB one. You'll get better speed, and there's no need for dual SSDs.

Definitely get the 4930k, you'll see the performance difference.

You need a better quality power supply. This one is cheaper, and MUCH higher quality: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/xfx-power-supply-p1550s...

I would go for a better CPU cooler as well, if you plan to overclock to get some more performance out of it. If not overclocking, you're fine then :) 


The CPU cooler is fine. I have an i5-3570k OC'd to 4.6GHz and it's absolute max temperature at gaming on Battlefield 4 at near 100% utilization is 70C, it stays around mid 60's 90% of the time, that's probably one of the best $30 air CPU coolers, always has been.
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March 25, 2014 6:39:21 AM

Adobe as well as many other articles recommended:

SSD for OS
SSD for Scratch Drive (would i need s scratch drive with that much RAM?)
SSD for APPS
SSD for Working files

HDD for storage
HDD for backup (mirror)

OTT?? Surely i can have Apps on the same drive as the OS, right?
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March 25, 2014 6:45:09 AM

Well, it's OK, pretty good set-up. You might wanna consider upgrading that power supply though. Other than that, not too shabby for a budget build. I'd have real trouble getting around a PC with that budget :p 
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March 25, 2014 6:55:05 AM

zAustin said:


The CPU cooler is fine. I have an i5-3570k OC'd to 4.6GHz and it's absolute max temperature at gaming on Battlefield 4 at near 100% utilization is 70C, it stays around mid 60's 90% of the time, that's probably one of the best $30 air CPU coolers, always has been.


The 4930k puts out MUCH more heat than the 3570k does.

Here's what I would do:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-4930K 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor (£413.18 @ Ebuyer)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U12S 55.0 CFM CPU Cooler (£49.34 @ Scan.co.uk)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-X79-UP4 ATX LGA2011 Motherboard (£163.55 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory (£142.08 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (£99.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£40.99 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card (£190.33 @ Amazon UK)
Case: NZXT Phantom (Black) ATX Full Tower Case (£104.38 @ Scan.co.uk)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£44.98 @ Amazon UK)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer (£11.79 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £1260.61
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-03-25 13:53 GMT+0000)

In your circumstance, you will benefit from the greatly increased memory speed. You also need quad-channel because of the motherboard.

Chose a much higher quality power supply as well, and the CPU cooler included will keep your CPU much cooler, and be much quieter as well.

On top of all that, saved you 70 quid :)  Which I would invest in more storage, perhaps a 2TB WD Black.
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March 25, 2014 8:26:40 AM

Any issues in the choice of the two motherboards I have listed? What are the main benefits of slightly pricer ones to my choices above?

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March 25, 2014 8:30:22 AM

@HiTechObsessed - what do mean by quad-channel memory? 1866 over the 1600 show much benefit in performance?
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March 25, 2014 9:01:17 AM

For gaming, increased RAM speed does almost nothing, but for what you'll be doing, the increased speed will help, and the memory I listed has low CAS latency as well.

Quad-channel memory effectively means you get 4x the throughput. By using only 2 sticks, like you listed above, you are essentially limiting yourself to half the speed of quad-channel. You still have 4 DIMM slots to ugrade memory in the future, should you need to.

And my motherboard is much cheaper than the one you listed, which gives room for the nice CPU cooler as well.
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March 25, 2014 10:05:05 PM

MaXimus421 said:
CX series does not belong on any "high spec" build...


this, they also have a chance of being DOA which is ALWAYS a pain in the ass!
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