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Ok everyone, I've spent more time thinking and researching, and based off what I primarily want to do, I think I've found the right spot in performance and price. I wanted to put it back out here one more time to see if I missed anything big.

I plan to do some basic overclocking to the system. Should I add fans?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($206.61 @ Micro Center)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($33.05 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI Z87-G43 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($108.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($84.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($319.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 w/Window (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($122.98 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair RM 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($99.00 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($22.99 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($100.00)
Keyboard: Microsoft SIDEWINDER X4 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1283.57
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-03-26 20:19 EDT-0400)

I have a 24" monitor for 1920x1080 resolution gaming.

I want to play Blizzard games on Ultra quality 60fps. WoW, SC2, D3:RoS, Hearthstone.
I also want to play Civilization 5, Portal 2, Bioshock: Infinite, X:COM, and the future Witcher 3
 
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One thing I missed - Choose low-profile modules such as G.Skill Ares http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gskill-memory-f31600c9d8gab.

Lower price, same performance, same (or better) thermals, and you get more clearance to place these under your cpu heatsink (which usually block some dimm slots for high-profile memory).

I would add 2 top fans to prevent the rear fan from sucking air from the top fan mounts and render it useless, and also to create better negative air pressure in the case.
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This is a great build.

I would wait before upgrading the monitor to let the 4K monitor prices settle and then deciding between those or one of them 1600p monitors if they get a price cut.
 
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Would this card be sufficient for 4k when the prices drop on 4k monitors with the Nvidia chip built into them to handle the AA work? Or would I need to buy a second 780 at that time?

Also, is it worth buying the 780ti instead? I could put in a smaller ssd and cheaper tower I suppose to cover that cost.

I'm not experienced in overclocking, but this should give me a basic overclock through basic built in software I assume?
 
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If you're sure about getting a 4K monitor anytime soon, then you'll probably feel the difference between the 780 / 780 SLI and the 780 ti / 780 ti SLI.
Note that even with the 780 ti you might still need SLI to get to high / ultra detail settings on some of the more demanding titles at 4K.

However, for 1920x1080, the GTX 780 is more than enough.
 
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Ok everyone, I've spent more time thinking and researching, and based off what I primarily want to do, I think I've found the right spot in performance and price. I wanted to put it back out here one more time to see if I missed anything big.

I plan to do some basic overclocking to the system. Should I add fans?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($206.61 @ Micro Center)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($33.05 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI Z87-G43 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($108.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($84.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($319.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 w/Window (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($122.98 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair RM 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($99.00 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($22.99 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($100.00)
Keyboard: Microsoft SIDEWINDER X4 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1283.57
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-03-26 20:19 EDT-0400)

I have a 24" monitor for 1920x1080 resolution gaming.

I want to play Blizzard games on Ultra quality 60fps. WoW, SC2, D3:RoS, Hearthstone.
I also want to play Civilization 5, Portal 2, Bioshock: Infinite, X:COM, and the future Witcher 3
 
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One thing I missed - Choose low-profile modules such as G.Skill Ares http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gskill-memory-f31600c9d8gab.

Lower price, same performance, same (or better) thermals, and you get more clearance to place these under your cpu heatsink (which usually block some dimm slots for high-profile memory).

I would add 2 top fans to prevent the rear fan from sucking air from the top fan mounts and render it useless, and also to create better negative air pressure in the case.
 
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Thanks for your input! I did tweak my system a little bit more last night, and am picking up some of the parts today. The rest I have ordered. I did already order the memory so hopefully I won't run into that issue with the heatsink fan. I did also buy a couple extra fans with the intention of placing at least one on top and the other on the bottom, but I guess I can put both on top. I can always buy a couple more if needed.

 
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The added 2 on the top will create negative air pressure inside the case so any unoccupied fan slot will still intake cold air inside.

More intake fans will obviously be better but I don't think it'll matter much and it'll create more noise, so adding only 2 fans at the top is probably the best compromise with your components.
 
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I'm a little ignorant to this negative air pressure thing. Will these two fans I place on top be blowing inside or outside the case?
 
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As a rule of thumb, most cases are optimized for rear as exhaust (hot air outside) and front as intake (cool air inside).

Natural air convection causes hot air to rise, so in order to cope with this phenomenon the exhaust is usually at the top of the case and the intake is more towards the bottom.

One last thing, since your case has a side fan mount and the gpu is designed to dissipate its heat output to the inside of the case, it might also help to place an exhaust fan at the side of the case (not an intake as most do) to remove some of this heat so that it won't pass through the cpu. This way you should theoretically help cool the gpu, motherboard, nearby add-in cards, and the cpu.

This method is especially useful if you have SLI + overclock, but will also help you in this case.
 
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