Upgrade intel i5 3570k to a better cpu is it worth it?

pilster123

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hello, Just a quick question, all I use it for is browsing and gaming, I see frame rates going below 60 which is annoying, would there be any benefit cant get it stable above 4.2ghz so i presume its slow.

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Skyrim is on a terrible, terrible engine. Graphics mods will bring any graphics card or CPU to low framerates eventually, and it's only really optimized for 2 cores (the 3rd and 4th just handle small things).

I ran into a person on the Nexus with a 4GB GTX 780 TI and FX-8350 OC'd to 4.5Ghz. They claimed to get over 120 fps in Skyrim with HD textures and ENB. I said they were lying, and after pressing them for a while and having them post a benchmark to prove it, it turned out 120 fps was the max indoors and on average they were getting 40 fps.

I assume you're not using a ridiculous amount of antialiasing like 16x or 32x or anything? Higher than 8x is pointless, and really it's even hard to see the difference from 4x to 8x at 1080p or...

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Could you post your full system specs so we can see what you have to work with?

Taking a stab here, I say no it's not worth it. The i5-3570k is still a very powerful cpu. You might want to get a better GPU and or better CPU cooling to try and get a higher and more stable overclock.
 

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All of your specs are high end and there shouldn't be much of a bottleneck anywhere. What games are you getting less than 60 FPS in?

*There isn't much of a performance boost in games:
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That's a very nice build.

Your set with your gpu. You can attempt to overclock it, but it should be fine at stock settings.

What are you using for a cpu cooler? I think you might get more fps with a better and stable overclock.

I'm also curious as to what games you're playing that getting below 60 fps.

As for the is it worth it question, I guess it depends on your situation. If you were starting with a brand new build and didn't already have a quality CPU, I'd say go for it. Keep in mind there are so few games and programs that take advantage of hyper-threading though. For a pure gaming machine, an unlocked i5 is usually the way to go and overclock the I5. That being said, it's your dime, and if you want to get an i7, go for it. They are very nice CPU's, are a little more future resistant than an i5, and I don't see how it could hurt anything other than your wallet.
 

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I think you need to try and get your overclock nailed down. That I5 is still an amazing CPU and other really don't think you need an i7.
 

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Tbh for the cost of say a 4770k and a mobo it just isnt worth it imho. If you found a cheap 3770k, but even then it really depends how much you want to spend. DDR4 should be out within the year (albeit crazy prices) but if you can deal with it the 3570k is still a fine cpu.
 

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Yeah graphics card is, and I have made sure bios is updated to latest. I do have mods on skyrim like 2k textures but i thought a 780ti should be able to handle them, I dont run an enb but I see people who do like keep a stable fps with weaker gpu, are they lying or is there something wrong, I know every system is different but its an expensive card so you would expect it to pull atleast 60fps at 1080p
 

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I'm not sure then. Crysis 3, GTX 780 Ti can run at 60 FPS @ 2560x1440 (high settings).

Your CPU is fine, especially with the OC. You have plenty RAM and a strong GPU. Doesn't make sense to me. Just to be safe, check your temperatures using HWMonitor, and look at how much of your CPU/RAM is being used in task manager.
 

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in the task manager there are quite a few things running which are svchost,exe I dont know what they are, there are a few others too is there a way to turn them off permanently? because i presume if you restart the computer they will come back on, anti virus is turned to game mode too.
 

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svchost.exe is a Windows process which should be left alone.

Go into Task Manager and click on the Performance Tab. Open up one of your laggy games then alt+tab to Task Manager. What % are your CPU and RAM at?
 

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I have just tested skyrim, and the weird thing is when it drops below 60fps my gpu usage is around 35 to 40% but when its over 60fps its usually around the high 60% usage, as for the cpu its usually around 38-52% usage do these sound strange, some kind of memory leak or do I need to completely reinstall graphics drivers, my gpu is overclocked, gpu temp was max 68C, cpu 45C. does anything sound bad there?
Thanks for your help.
 

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Nothing sounds bad. I'm not all too smart when it comes to GPUs, but it is not working hard when it needs to the most.

There may be some setting in your driver software to set it to not auto configure the load, however that's typically only for fans. Your GPU is not running at its full potential, and neither is your CPU, which is the issue.
 

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Do you reckon its a good idea to reinstall drivers in safe mode that way? reinstall windows or anything like that, I dont really like frame rate drops when there noticible, fair enough if the game runs at 40-50 fps but when it drops to that from 60 its annoying.
 

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I'm guessing that its multiplayer where you are experiencing the framerate drops. There I would check router/modem settings. Is the lan running latest drivers? Are you maxing out bandwidth? Is the computer running something other than just the game, maybe a background update checker claiming bandwidth?
 
Skyrim is on a terrible, terrible engine. Graphics mods will bring any graphics card or CPU to low framerates eventually, and it's only really optimized for 2 cores (the 3rd and 4th just handle small things).

I ran into a person on the Nexus with a 4GB GTX 780 TI and FX-8350 OC'd to 4.5Ghz. They claimed to get over 120 fps in Skyrim with HD textures and ENB. I said they were lying, and after pressing them for a while and having them post a benchmark to prove it, it turned out 120 fps was the max indoors and on average they were getting 40 fps.

I assume you're not using a ridiculous amount of antialiasing like 16x or 32x or anything? Higher than 8x is pointless, and really it's even hard to see the difference from 4x to 8x at 1080p or higher.
 
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pilster123

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Why do people lie? its annoying to be honest. Im not bovered about max framerates, aslong as im getting similar or correct performance then im not to fussed about it dipping, shame it was not designed for pc proper but hey its still great. Thanks for clearing up, and nope, im running on 4X AA, 8x AA drops it 2 fps but i cant see any difference,