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3 Bad Motherboards in a Row? (Major new build problems)

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  • Asus
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March 26, 2014 3:45:15 PM

Summary: Can not get new build with MSI X79A-GD45 Plus to POST. Many LEDS, all fans spin, but no display and no beep.

Specs:
MOTHERBOARD:MSI X79A-GD45 Plus
CPU: Intel I7 3820 Sandy Bridge
RAM: GSkill Ripjaws Z DDR3-2133 PC3-17000 2048MB x 4
PSU: Corsair HX750 PSU
HEATSINK: Enermax ETS T-40
GPU: Nvidia GTS 450 (And a spare ATI Sapphire to double-test)
MONITOR: NEC 195WXM Multisync LCD monitor (1440x900)

- Building new PC with all new parts with exception to CPU
- Everything turns on including fans, but there is never a beep if a speaker is plugged to the motherboard, and I never get a signal to the monitor display.
- EVERY SINGE component of new PC (RAM, CPU, PSU, GPU) has been double-tested as working in my friends computer with exception to the heatsink. I do not ask him to have to unmount his cooling for me as he has already tested the CPU twice for me.
- I have laid out all the parts on a bare piece of cardboard to make sure it wasn't an issue with how the motherboard was mounted to the case.

...and here is where it gets almost humorous:

- This is the THIRD new motherboard I have tried building this new PC. Previously tried 2 Asus P9x79 LE boards, but neither would post and would throw a red CPU error LED. I RMA'd the first one (which actually had black burn looking stuff in one of the RAM slots upon arrival) and then got a refund for the 2nd one because it had the exact same behavior as the 1st.

I've included a couple of pictures of my setup in case that helps explain at all. Do you all think I should RMA or refund this board as well? Or can any of you think of anything else I should try? This is the largest heatsink I've ever used, but I've never read about that preventing POST. Any help is greatly appreciated!




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March 26, 2014 3:49:30 PM

Have you placed the motherboard accurately on the motherboard standsoff, cuz sometimes if they touch the inner Case of the computer they dont boot.
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March 26, 2014 3:52:47 PM

Do you use a static reducing band when handling the components. Are you sure you have checked every component? Of course check if the heat sink fan is plugged in. you could buy from a different retailer like overclockers uk (if your english) or newegg (if your American) or NCIX (if your Canadian) if its retailer specific and lastly did you check your cpu in your friends computer?
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March 26, 2014 3:53:47 PM

Mojo: Yes I have. With this case's built-in standoffs there's really not much room for error. Also, as of now it is all out of the case and being tested on a cardboard box. I can take a picture of that as well if anyone would like to check my connections or LEDs.
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March 26, 2014 3:56:03 PM

Yes please i would like to see it.
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March 26, 2014 3:59:06 PM

Sam: I do not use a band, but always ensure to discharge any static. I've been building computers for years (so is the friend helping me double-test the components) and there is no carpet in the room.

I bought the components all from NewEgg (USA). The heatsink is plugged in and its fan is spinning. And yes, the CPU has actually been tested twice during this ordeal and not only POSTs in his system, but begins to boot Windows.
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March 26, 2014 4:04:58 PM

I'll leave it to the motherboard expert, if you've checked all the components I don't what's going on, maybe the outlet doesn't supply enough power? Do you use a generator or Solar panels? Remember talking to someone about them attempting to run a monitor off of solar panels. Unfortunately it didn't supply sufficient power for the Monitor and some households are wired so that some outlets are for low power devices only.
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March 26, 2014 4:10:30 PM

Does your motherboard have a sufficiently uplevel bios to support a I7-3820?
Look on the box to find the level supplied. I think it must be 1.4 or higher.
That was released 1/2012.
http://www.msi.com/product/mb/X79AGD45.html#/?div=BIOS
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March 26, 2014 4:12:03 PM

Did you check the back of the CPU?
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March 26, 2014 4:14:26 PM

What did the Debug LED Panel lit up? Can you tell us the codes?
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March 26, 2014 4:26:28 PM

No mention of a drive. Why?
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March 26, 2014 4:45:16 PM

Mojo: Sorry, work called. Here are the images you requested:

http://s15.postimg.org/dan4usmd7/20140326_190216.jpg
http://s8.postimg.org/ld89nslyd/20140326_190240.jpg

Sam: Nope, no solar panels here. Wiring in the house seems great. I can run multiple computers, guitar amp, girlfriend's hairdryer, etc without issues. I have not tried another outlet yet. (but doubt that's an issue)

geofelt: I don't see it on the box, but I do see 2013 in a couple of places on the board, and this is the "plus" model which is supposed to support 3820 since the original BIOS I believe.

rwinches: I originally had a hard disk plugged in. You can hear it spin up and click a couple of times. I didn't include it because I haven't tried starting it lately with one connected. Figured if it won't even get to BIOS, there's no need for the hard drive.

karad: Yes, CPU looks fine (and works in friends computer fine) and the CPU socket pins look fine.
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March 26, 2014 5:52:28 PM

Slam_Bradley said:
Mojo: Sorry, work called. Here are the images you requested:

http://s15.postimg.org/dan4usmd7/20140326_190216.jpg
http://s8.postimg.org/ld89nslyd/20140326_190240.jpg

Sam: Nope, no solar panels here. Wiring in the house seems great. I can run multiple computers, guitar amp, girlfriend's hairdryer, etc without issues. I have not tried another outlet yet. (but doubt that's an issue)

geofelt: I don't see it on the box, but I do see 2013 in a couple of places on the board, and this is the "plus" model which is supposed to support 3820 since the original BIOS I believe.

rwinches: I originally had a hard disk plugged in. You can hear it spin up and click a couple of times. I didn't include it because I haven't tried starting it lately with one connected. Figured if it won't even get to BIOS, there's no need for the hard drive.

karad: Yes, CPU looks fine (and works in friends computer fine) and the CPU socket pins look fine.


Hmm...idk I see nothing wrong with other components except the motherboard, maybe this is legitimately a defected motherboard. you are going to have to RMA it i guess
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March 27, 2014 5:01:18 PM

Mojo: Thank you, so far you have confirmed my fears and disbelief. Only the 1st LED by the CPU phase array of about 8 lights ever comes on. I guess that's the same sort of message I got with the red CPU led on the Asus boards.

Okay, tested with a light-weight water-cooling block today to rule out heatsink. Looks like I will be returning a 3rd motherboard.

Not sure if I should ask in a different thread.. I think not because it's still the root problem:

Can anyone recommend a next course of action? Should I RMA for a replacement MSI board? Or, what board would you recommend I use with the other hardware specified? I would like to stay away from Asus (and boards by any brand with FoxConn CPU sockets) because of the first 2 non-working boards coming from Asus.
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March 27, 2014 5:05:12 PM

Get a Asus Sabertooth X79 its an excellent motherboard for the LGA 2011 socket. I have one myself.
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March 27, 2014 5:07:53 PM

Okay. If I can find one that can return for a refund instead of just replacement, I will consider that as a good motherboard. Thanks again, mojo.
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March 31, 2014 11:06:49 PM

Slam_Bradley said:
Summary: Can not get new build with MSI X79A-GD45 Plus to POST. Many LEDS, all fans spin, but no display and no beep.

Specs:
MOTHERBOARD:MSI X79A-GD45 Plus
CPU: Intel I7 3820 Sandy Bridge
RAM: GSkill Ripjaws Z DDR3-2133 PC3-17000 2048MB x 4
PSU: Corsair HX750 PSU
HEATSINK: Enermax ETS T-40
GPU: Nvidia GTS 450 (And a spare ATI Sapphire to double-test)
MONITOR: NEC 195WXM Multisync LCD monitor (1440x900)

- Building new PC with all new parts with exception to CPU
- Everything turns on including fans, but there is never a beep if a speaker is plugged to the motherboard, and I never get a signal to the monitor display.
- EVERY SINGE component of new PC (RAM, CPU, PSU, GPU) has been double-tested as working in my friends computer with exception to the heatsink. I do not ask him to have to unmount his cooling for me as he has already tested the CPU twice for me.
- I have laid out all the parts on a bare piece of cardboard to make sure it wasn't an issue with how the motherboard was mounted to the case.

...and here is where it gets almost humorous:

- This is the THIRD new motherboard I have tried building this new PC. Previously tried 2 Asus P9x79 LE boards, but neither would post and would throw a red CPU error LED. I RMA'd the first one (which actually had black burn looking stuff in one of the RAM slots upon arrival) and then got a refund for the 2nd one because it had the exact same behavior as the 1st.

I've included a couple of pictures of my setup in case that helps explain at all. Do you all think I should RMA or refund this board as well? Or can any of you think of anything else I should try? This is the largest heatsink I've ever used, but I've never read about that preventing POST. Any help is greatly appreciated!





are you buying these motherboards from newegg?
if you are, there is your problem right there. i went through 4 z77 deluxe m/b
s before i went to the bank and had them refund my money.
they rewrap bad stuff, and ship it out to see if you can get it to work. i almost stopped building, i had so much trouble with them. i bought an intel m/b from a local shop, and first try, it fired right up.
you can go to the reviews on the m/b on newegg, and see my comments there, if you wish. they are under jim3888. there are several.
hope i helped.
btw... i now have an mpower z77 that is the cat's pajamas. it sings like a bird, and OC's with one button. i went away from MSI for a while, a mistake i will not make again.

the mpower boards are burned in for 24 hours at manufacture, so it's almost impossible to get a dead one.


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April 3, 2014 5:13:48 PM

I did order them from New Egg.

I have a running setup now. I ended up not using the 2011 socket setup and instead bought an i7 4770k and a GIGABYTE GA-Z87-DS3H LGA 1150.

Successful POST on first attempt!
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