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March 26, 2014 4:39:57 PM

Hi guys!

I'm planning to upgrade my PC slowly, to the point where the whole computer would be a different PC (almost all the parts would be changed), and i need some help.

First the Memory:

What I had in mind was to buy new ram, since one of the 2GB sticks out of 4GB (2x2GB kit) failed, so I thought i'd put memory to the top of my list.

The motherboard im using now is an ASUS P5P41T/USB3. It supports 1333MHz/1066MHz/800MHz on paper, and the RAM I have in it, is a Kingmax DDR3 1333MHz 2GB stick. The ram I would like to get is two Corsair Vengeance Pro DDR3 2133MHz 8GB sticks. I know its an overkill right now, but here is why.

I will also upgrade my motherboard in the future, one that supports the new RAM obviously, but I don't want to (only if there is no other option) buy older RAMs just to buy new ones, once I have the new motherboard as well. The new motherboard would be an ASUS RAMPAGE IV BLACK EDITION(this could change). I've read on the mighty internets that putting in a faster RAM might result in everything working fine except it will be slower to be compatible with the motherboard, but I also found cases where the PC simply refused to post. Since my current motherboard is a "very old" one I couldn't find any tests or compatibility graphs that would clearly state if the new RAM would work in this Motherboard. Also the shops in my country don't usually take the product back if it doesn't work(unless its a product faliure), so trying it out and returning it is not an option either. Also I know that my current Motherboard doesn't support 16GB of RAM only 8, but until i get the new Motherboard I could still use only one stick (even if thats not as efficient). Can any of you help me out here, or have some tips on what the best solution would be?

Second the Gaming PC build:

I'll post my current and my planned build, I would appreciate feedback on what you think about the new build as well, since this will be the 2nd PC that I build by myself. The main goal would be to build a PC that will last 4-5 years as a High end gaming PC, with a decent performance even past 2-3 years. I know the market is changing so fast it's not quite possible to build a futureproof PC but I would like to get the most out of it for as long as possible, because I may not be able to buy one again for quite some time.

With that in mind please DO correct me if I am wrong, as I am far from being an expert, I just looked up as much stuff as I could, but I appreciate anyones help/tip/suggestion.

Also sorry if I post in the wrong forum, I'm not really a Forum using person, I just read stuff most of the time.

Current PC:

Motherboard: ASUS P5P41T/USB3
CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q8300 2.5GHz
RAM: Kingmax DDR3 1333MHz 4GB(2x2GB kit) With one of them being broken. (Couldn't find a link of the exact same product)
Video Card: ASUS GT 440

Planned PC(might change depending on feedback):

Case: Corsair Air 540
PSU: Corsair AX1200i
Motherboard: ASUS Rampage IV Black Edition
CPU: Intel Core i7 3.70GHz 4930K
CPU Cooler: Corsair H110 Or Silver Arrow Extreme
RAM: Corsair Vengeance Pro DDR3 2133MHz 16GB (2x8GB kit)
Video Card: ASUS ROG POSEIDON GTX 780
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March 26, 2014 4:45:43 PM

Everything looks fine for the PC build, except that the RAM is a bit overkill. I'd go for 1600MHz and just overclock it, as most RAM can hit 2133MHz. Also, the PSU is about as much overkill as 64GB of 2133MHz RAM in your current build.

For the RAM, you shouldn't have an issue, and it shouldn't slow down or stop from working. It's not a car, where to get a turbo, you have to get a new drivetrain, exhaust manifold, new suspension, and a new frame. I render videos A LOT, and 16GB is not enough. If you don't need to render videos, you should be absolutely fine for that.

Hope it helps!
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March 26, 2014 5:01:42 PM

One thing definitely on the RAM - with the 2011 system, you want 4 ram modules for optimal performance, so you want either a 4x8 kit (32) or a 4x4 kit (16) - not a 2x8 - you will lose performance on memory massively. 2011 wants 4 channel, and with only 2 ram modules it would drop you to 2 channel access.
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March 26, 2014 5:06:55 PM

space55 said:
I'd go for 1600MHz and just overclock it, as most RAM can hit 2133MHz. Also, the PSU is about as much overkill as 64GB of 2133MHz RAM in your current build.


Thanks for the tips!

I have no experience in overclocking I was planning to look into it tho.

As for the PSU I know its also an overkill but in case during the next five years I may upgrade the videocard and other parts that require more power or even in case it lives long enough (hoping the 7 year warranty means long life) I could still use the PSU in the next build after 5 years.

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March 26, 2014 5:11:18 PM

That info about 4 channel rams in 2011 systems is much appreciated, I had no idea about this. So thanks Sherk!
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March 26, 2014 5:19:16 PM

dustinhunt78 said:
If you start buying parts before you know for sure what the motherboard/CPU will be, there is a very real chance that you will end up with parts that do not work.

Does this agree with you? And if you would like I would love to help you assemble a new rig. Just give me a budget of your total build and I will put together the best performing system for the money. I will assume that your primary purpose would be for gaming unless otherwise instructed. Hit me back and let me know your thoughts on this idea. :) 


My idea was to make a list of the parts I want first and when I'm 100% satisfied and I'm sure it would work, only then I would start buying stuff, but I see your point.

Your offer sounds great, I'd appreciate the help.

Should we continue here or in PM?
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March 26, 2014 5:57:49 PM

Budget is not a real concern, I dont want to spend astronomical amounts tho. The main goal would be to build a PC that lasts 5 years at least, running games preferably at least on medium settings past 2-3 years.

I would set a budget of 3000$ if that makes it a little easier.

The stuff (and parts) that I would like for sure:

- 2011 socket oriented build, since its kind of new, so in hopes it will last longer
- Intel and Nvidia based PC
- A black and red theme of the hardware
- Corsairs RAM, AX1200 PSU, Fans and 540 Air Flow case
- The possibility to overclock, I haven't done it yet but I might look into it
- Sorry to repeat this over and over but this really is the top point, I need this build to last as long as possible and perform as high as possible preferably 5 years or more. I know it's almost impposible to be futureproof but this is sort of a "one time opportunity" thing.

The stuff I want to avoid:

- Watercooling, I'm afraid of this technology because of my inexperience in the matter, and the possible destruction of the whole build if I mess something.
- Overclocking being a crucial part of the performance of the build, I only want the potential of it.
- Parts that may only be aquired via shipping. If there will be any parts like this I'll let you know.

Of course I am willing to reconsider anything, if you can explain to me why something else would be a better idea.

Right now thats "all" I could think of. I am truly sorry if I sound like some kind of spoilt princess with all these "demands". :/ 
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March 26, 2014 6:02:34 PM

Ok, listen. My PC costs less than your budget, and it runs like a dream. For about $1000 you can get a killer gaming PC. The only reason you'd spend more is for my purpose: rendering.

I'll set you up with a list. Also, I'll create an overclocking guide. Get back soon!
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March 26, 2014 6:06:25 PM

Need a display?
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March 26, 2014 6:07:29 PM

Here's without display, keyboard, mouse, headset, etc. It does have the OS.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-4960X Extreme Edition 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor ($1034.98 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Asus Sabertooth X79 ATX LGA2011 Motherboard ($309.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($184.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($199.00 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($109.40 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB Video Card ($749.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: NZXT Phantom 530 (Black) ATX Full Tower Case ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair RM 1000W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($184.99 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($84.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $2998.30
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-03-26 21:07 EDT-0400)


Yes, I did go a bit mental...

This thing could take over NASA, the gov't, the NSA, and the CIA.
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March 26, 2014 6:09:17 PM

Sorry I made a little mistake, I will also get new mouse, keyboard, monitor, SSD and some LED for shines :p , those included made around 3000$ in my list, but I didn't include them here because they are not must have parts for the build to work.

Also thanks a lot for helping out!
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March 26, 2014 6:17:15 PM

OK, I'll tune back some stuff
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March 26, 2014 6:17:24 PM

dustinhunt78 said:
Almost done. I have a question. Do you require a monitor?


Yes, but I had my mind set up for a BenQ XL2720Z.

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March 26, 2014 6:18:19 PM

Thanks a bunch for you as well space55 for helping!

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March 26, 2014 6:20:38 PM

Here's with mouse, keyboard, headset, and monitor:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-4930K 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor ($549.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Asus Sabertooth X79 ATX LGA2011 Motherboard ($309.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($184.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($199.00 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($109.40 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB Video Card ($749.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: NZXT Phantom 530 (Black) ATX Full Tower Case ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair RM 1000W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($184.99 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($84.98 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: Asus VG248QE 144Hz 24.0" Monitor ($264.99 @ B&H)
Keyboard: Logitech G510s Wired Gaming Keyboard ($79.99 @ Amazon)
Mouse: Logitech G602 Wireless Optical Mouse ($58.99 @ Amazon)
Headphones: Turtle Beach Z300 7.1 Channel Headset ($144.99 @ Best Buy)
Total: $3062.27
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-03-26 21:20 EDT-0400)
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March 26, 2014 6:21:32 PM

Is $62.27 more than your budget OK? If not, I'll change any of the things.
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March 26, 2014 6:26:00 PM

Corrections to Dustin:

He had said no water cooling. Plus, the CM Hyper 212 EVO will do best. Windows 8 is horrid and expensive. Go for 7 Home Premium 64-bit. You also don't need a blu-ray drive. Or an optical drive for that matter.

Let me know if you want me to blend the two, beef. You sound tasty BTW.
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March 26, 2014 6:33:40 PM

Modified the RAM on mine. Also, for the HDD, the 1TB SSD is way too much. You need typically a 256GB SSD and a 2TB HDD. The SSD for good games and the windows the drive, the HDD for the rest. Here's the list with the different RAM:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-4930K 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor ($549.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Asus Sabertooth X79 ATX LGA2011 Motherboard ($309.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Dominator Platinum 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($339.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($199.00 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($109.40 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB Video Card ($749.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: NZXT Phantom 530 (Black) ATX Full Tower Case ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair RM 1000W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($184.99 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($84.98 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: Asus VG248QE 144Hz 24.0" Monitor ($264.99 @ B&H)
Keyboard: Logitech G510s Wired Gaming Keyboard ($79.99 @ Amazon)
Mouse: Logitech G602 Wireless Optical Mouse ($58.99 @ Amazon)
Headphones: Turtle Beach Z300 7.1 Channel Headset ($144.99 @ Best Buy)
Total: $3217.27
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-03-26 21:32 EDT-0400)


Still going to tune down some stuff. It's overbudget.
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March 26, 2014 6:37:56 PM

Slightly changed. I think I changed the monitor, and used the non-Ti version of the GFX card:


PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-4930K 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor ($549.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Asus Sabertooth X79 ATX LGA2011 Motherboard ($309.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Dominator Platinum 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($339.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($199.00 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($109.40 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card ($499.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: NZXT Phantom 530 (Black) ATX Full Tower Case ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair RM 1000W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($184.99 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($84.98 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: Asus VN247H-P 23.6" Monitor ($169.99 @ Best Buy)
Keyboard: Logitech G510s Wired Gaming Keyboard ($79.99 @ Amazon)
Mouse: Logitech G602 Wireless Optical Mouse ($58.99 @ Amazon)
Headphones: Turtle Beach Z300 7.1 Channel Headset ($144.99 @ Best Buy)
Total: $2872.27
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-03-26 21:37 EDT-0400)
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March 26, 2014 6:49:09 PM

I did say preferably no watercooling, in my original post I chose either H110 or a Silver Arrow Extreme because I saw some insatances where faulty water cooling damaged almost everything in the case. I'm sorry if I wasn't clear about this part. To be on the safe side I prefer Air cooling.

Also is there any reason to go for a full house over the 540 Air Flow mid house? I would stick with the latter because of vertical space req., cable management and I prefer the looks of the 540 better.

As for the 1TB SSD, it sound better because I have quite a big library of games, and other programs that do take up a lot of Gigs.

Headphones and Optical Drives are parts that I definately don't need.

The rest looks good tho, I prefer Dustin's list so far because of the Red and Black theme I wanted to go for.

I have another question: Is the Silver Arrow Extreme or the CM Hyper 212 Evo a better choice?

Also please don't fight over "me", you guys are both awesome for helping out. I don't want to be the cause of hard feelings.
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March 26, 2014 6:55:34 PM

I'd go for the CM Hyper 212 EVO. Also, if I were you and didn't want to cause trouble, ask for someone to say something random, then pick as solution, and credit both of us. I'll start working on the red and black theme now.
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March 26, 2014 7:00:09 PM

Here's the list. The monitor you wanted is really expensive. I've got a different one.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-4930K 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor ($549.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Asus Sabertooth X79 ATX LGA2011 Motherboard ($309.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Dominator Platinum 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($339.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung EVO 1TB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($454.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card ($509.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Corsair Air 540 ATX Mid Tower Case ($119.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair RM 1000W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($184.99 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($84.98 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: Asus VN247H-P 23.6" Monitor ($169.99 @ Amazon)
Keyboard: Logitech G510s Wired Gaming Keyboard ($79.99 @ Amazon)
Mouse: Logitech G602 Wireless Optical Mouse ($58.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $2893.87
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-03-26 21:59 EDT-0400)

That has a red/black theme, same idea, and the stuff you wanted.
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March 26, 2014 7:03:16 PM

Gotta go for the night. Cya all tomorrow!
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March 26, 2014 7:24:31 PM

I'll be back hopefully tomorrow or in a few days. Thanks both of you for the amount of help and effort. Good night!
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March 27, 2014 5:40:43 AM

Wait, where did all of Dustin's posts go?
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March 27, 2014 3:11:24 PM

No idea, I checked out other threads he posted on and all of his posts are gone everywhere. Maybe he got banned or something? Weird :/ 
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March 27, 2014 3:23:18 PM

Probably.

Anyway, need me to change something on my list for ya?
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March 27, 2014 3:34:06 PM

I'll get back to you later If thats ok (couple of hours), I still have some stuff to do before I have spare time.
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March 27, 2014 3:37:59 PM

Ok!
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March 27, 2014 4:02:21 PM

Yeah. I DID get banned, so it said anyway. The notice stated that I was BEGGING for my answers to be selected as "Best Solution". The only reason that I can think of is that I copied and pasted this post to many old threads that I participated in. I want you to take notice of my requesting that "the post that helped you most" be picked. Whoever did the "banning".....that was dirty. I NEVER instructed people to pick MY answer. I requested that the answer that helped the most be picked! As I stated in the post, it helps the entire community out!

I'm not mad about it, but I would like to know why any action was taken against me. It doesn't make sense to me. I have sent in a request to Tom's asking for more details about why there was a problem. Anyway......here is the complete post. I just copied and pasted it to a bunch of old threads last night. This same post was sent to probably 75-100 people. And again, I just don't see the wrong in it.

Hi! I was just going through some of the older threads that I've answered to that were still listed as "Unsolved". If your problem is still unsolved, let me know and we'll see about getting you set straight! But if your problem is resolved, please mark it solved by clicking the "Pick as the solution" button located near the bottom of the post that helped you most. This helps others when they have a problem similar to yours. When they scan over threads, they see that the thread they are looking at is "Solved". They then can open the thread and get their solution solved as well! It helps the whole community. Thanks! :D 
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March 27, 2014 4:56:04 PM

You've got my backing. There is nothing wrong with that!
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March 27, 2014 5:06:33 PM

That's good to know! (Of course, I mean we now know what happened, not the fact that you were banned) First I thought I messed something up (as stated in OP I'm not familiar with forum usage) and deleted your posts somehow. Anyways, glad you are still able to use the forums.

As a side note, I don't see any "begging for pick as the solution" in your post either. Some people just get jelly, or will start nit-picking because they have too much free time. =)

Back to the building:

During the day I've had some time and was picking through your lists, and some questions came to mind.

First, I'll be going with the Silver Arrow as the CPU Cooling solution, but will I be able to fit the rams under this thing?

Second, according to Corsairs website, their only rams that support quad channel is the 2400MHz and higher versions or ones that are 2133 or lower but either Vengeance, XMS, or Dominator series but not Vengeance Pro or Dominator Platinum. Is this something that would, effect the speed that you mentioned before about the whole 2011 system like 4 channel memories? If you could I would like some clerification on this, becasue it confuses me a lot. =)

Third, the video card. I've seen some 780 and 780 Ti performance graphs, I know the Ti performs better but I'm not sure if it would be worth to spend more on it in the long run. Is it possible that it would perform better for longer then the 780 or is it such a small difference that it would not have a visible effect in the long run?

About the case, I get your point on "bigger space - better air flow", but I've got the impression (based on reviews and pictures) that cable management potential is very good with the Air 540 because of the huge space behind the first "chamber", also the space it would take up is way smaller and I prefer lower hight cases because of the space ive got for my PC, also AFAIK Corseir designed this case to be a very efficient air cooled case (hence the name) and finally I pretty much fell in love with the looks of it.

As for the part lists, if thats ok with you guys, I don't want you to keep changing and posting lists, because I feel like I'm wasting your time by being picky about one part and then you "need" to post a completely new list. Also it would be easier for me if we would just sort of talk about it and I would post the lists so we can all see it. (And whoever else may stumble upon this thread) Is that okay with you guys?
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March 27, 2014 5:10:49 PM

space55 said:
You've got my backing. There is nothing wrong with that!


Thanks man. I appreciate it. They even took several of my "Solutions Solved"! How this is justified I'll never know. I wrote a letter to them asking for them to elaborate on why action was taken against me for something that IS NOT against the rules or immoral. I'm eager to see what they have to say. I'd REALLY like to hear from the person responsible. I don't see how a person who acts so rashly is given a position of authority on a well-known site like Tom's......or ANYWHERE as far as that goes!
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March 27, 2014 5:16:43 PM

I'm going to answer/handle one issue at a time. First I'll address the Corsair Dominator Platinum issue. Just so we're for sure on the same page, you have concluded that you want 16 or 32GB of RAM? Just a note on something to consider: there are EIGHT RAM slots on your selected motherboard, so you can actually go up to 64GB of RAM. This is INSANE overkill, but if you want it, it's there. It will cost over 1000 dollars for this much RAM, but if you want it I will show you the correct RAM kit to buy.

So for right now, just tell me how much RAM you want and I'll show you your options.
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March 27, 2014 5:23:18 PM

My thought on RAM: I would go for 32GB. This is, like the 64GB, WAY overkill.....but that's the whole idea with this computer, right? You'll never even have to consider upgrading it for the life of the computer if you go with this much RAM. Probably like that with 16GB, but why take a chance?

Here is the kit I would recommend:

http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Dominator-Platinum-PC3-19...
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March 27, 2014 5:24:16 PM

Ok, to answer your post. There will be 4 sticks of RAM. That will equal quad channel, as far as I know. (I'm not wondeful with RAM)

If you want a better case, the Corsair Obsidian 800D is wonderful, but it's a bit big.

For the needing to post new lists, it actually is about 2 clicks, a ctrl+a, ctrl+c, ctrl+v. It is insanely easy. No need to worry, as I have fun with this.

However, I did have a slight issue with my PC, so I lost the list, but it is here, so I can recover it. I'll make the necessary changes.

Let dustin deal with the RAM. He knows more than I do.

Unless you want to render, you don't need 64GB, or even 32GB, you only need 8-16GB.

Hope it all helps!
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March 27, 2014 5:24:57 PM

I've read it many times (including space55's example in this thread) that 16GB is more than enough for any games now and in the near future. I know the Motherboard has 8 slots and thats part of the reason I like it. If any day I decide to step on video making/editing I've got the impression that would need more than 16GB, so with this Motherboard I will have to opportunity for an upgrade (be it games starting to use insane amounts of RAM or just me looking into some video editing stuff). To sum it up I only want 16GB for now.
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March 27, 2014 5:27:39 PM

List with the new cooler. Let me know if you want a new case.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-4930K 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor ($549.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Silver Arrow Extreme 130.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($89.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Asus Sabertooth X79 ATX LGA2011 Motherboard ($309.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Dominator Platinum 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($339.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung EVO 1TB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($454.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card ($515.19 @ B&H)
Case: Corsair Air 540 ATX Mid Tower Case ($109.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair RM 1000W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($184.99 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($84.98 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: Asus VN247H-P 23.6" Monitor ($169.99 @ Amazon)
Keyboard: Logitech G510s Wired Gaming Keyboard ($79.99 @ Amazon)
Mouse: Logitech G602 Wireless Optical Mouse ($57.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $2948.07
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-03-27 20:26 EDT-0400)
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March 27, 2014 5:30:13 PM

space55 said:
Ok, to answer your post. There will be 4 sticks of RAM. That will equal quad channel, as far as I know. (I'm not wondeful with RAM)

If you want a better case, the Corsair Obsidian 800D is wonderful, but it's a bit big.

For the needing to post new lists, it actually is about 2 clicks, a ctrl+a, ctrl+c, ctrl+v. It is insanely easy. No need to worry, as I have fun with this.

However, I did have a slight issue with my PC, so I lost the list, but it is here, so I can recover it. I'll make the necessary changes.

Let dustin deal with the RAM. He knows more than I do.

Unless you want to render, you don't need 64GB, or even 32GB, you only need 8-16GB.

Hope it all helps!


For this build, I would have but one case. The Corsair 900d. It is HUGE. It even accommodates TWO PSU's. LOL Once Beef gets more comfy, I'm SURE that he'll want to do a custom water loop. That will be the only way to get well over 5Ghz overclock from the CPU. And it CAN be done. XSPC makes some AWESOME kits. And the 900d will support SEVERAL 480mm radiators, INTERNALLY! :o  Google "Corsair 900d custom water cooling" and click the images tab. You can't tell me that it isn't the purest definition as awesome as you've ever seen. LOL
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March 27, 2014 5:31:01 PM

Beefhusi said:
I've read it many times (including space55's example in this thread) that 16GB is more than enough for any games now and in the near future. I know the Motherboard has 8 slots and thats part of the reason I like it. If any day I decide to step on video making/editing I've got the impression that would need more than 16GB, so with this Motherboard I will have to opportunity for an upgrade (be it games starting to use insane amounts of RAM or just me looking into some video editing stuff). To sum it up I only want 16GB for now.


So, for the most part, the game that requires the most RAM is COD: Ghosts. It wants 6GB, not 16GB.

You'll be fine.
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March 27, 2014 5:31:49 PM

Something tells me we should continue this on a live chat thing...
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March 27, 2014 5:32:50 PM

space55 said:
Something tells me we should continue this on a live chat thing...


Skype. My user name is dustinhunt78

UPDATE: Oh....and I'm from the south (North Carolina), so I have a southern accent. A BAD one. LOL But my yankee wife (Michigan) is right here, so this should be fun. :D 
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March 27, 2014 5:35:20 PM

Ah k. Beef, do you have one?

I'm a young northerner. I've no problems with accents. I talk to people from almost every continent, including Australia.
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March 27, 2014 5:41:32 PM

space55 said:
Ah k. Beef, do you have one?

I'm a young northerner. I've no problems with accents. I talk to people from almost every continent, including Australia.


What is your Skype username? You can PM it to me if you don't want it public. Me.....I don't care. I never have Skype opened, so they couldn't "bother" me if they tried. LOL
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March 27, 2014 5:42:50 PM

I've already added you.
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March 27, 2014 5:44:05 PM

space55 said:
I've already added you.



Send me a message then.
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March 27, 2014 5:49:55 PM

Skype is fine with me, but voice chat is not really an option for me. It's almost 2:00 AM here, I'm from Hungary(Europe). Is it ok with you to continue on Skype via typing?
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March 27, 2014 6:01:42 PM

Yea, PM me your skype and I'll add you to chat.
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March 27, 2014 6:18:40 PM

I've added dustin and wrote to him, but he didn't respond yet, I also can't see you on my partners list yet.
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March 27, 2014 7:28:21 PM

Here is a revised build. Since the other one that you had picked as the "Solution" has so graciously been erased by Tom's, I figure that you would like your build back. I made the changes that you requested, including the Silver Arrow CPU cooler, the AX1200i PSU, and the 4 channel, 32GB, 2400Mhz Corsair Dominator Platinum RAM. With these changes, the price has gone up slightly, of course. One more thing that I would actually advise, I would go with Windows 8.1 Pro instead of the "regular" version. It allows for better networking. I'll explain later if you remind me. Let me know of any more changes that you would like to make and I will enter them into the build and post back the revised build. Enjoy! :) 

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3hIp9
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3hIp9/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3hIp9/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i7-4930K 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor ($565.25 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Silver Arrow Extreme 130.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($89.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Asus Rampage IV Black Edition EATX LGA2011 Motherboard ($475.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Corsair Dominator Platinum 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-2400 Memory ($549.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Samsung EVO 1TB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($454.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card ($489.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 750D ATX Full Tower Case ($139.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: Corsair 1200W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($319.99 @ Micro Center)
Optical Drive: LG UH12NS29 Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer ($54.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $3231.14
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-03-27 22:22 EDT-0400)
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