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First day trading build need help $2,000 or less.

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March 26, 2014 4:51:11 PM

Hello everyone,

I am looking to build a computer for day trading stock. I am looking for a fast fairly quite computer without cooling issues. I do want a solid state drive and an ASUS MB other than that I have nothing that I am “set on.” I would like to keep the system under $2,000 if possible with $2,400 being my cap, but again under $2,000 is my goal. (This is just for the system no monitors or anything.)

This system will be 100% for trading, streaming charts, watching video clips and multitasking with multiple programs/pages. There will be little to no gaming or anything else. I am just looking for a purpose build trading system.

I will not be upclocking and more than likely not crossfire either since I don’t feel there is a need for it in this system.

I would like the system to be capable of running 6 monitors without any issues or lag. Although I will be starting off with 3 monitors and working my way up to 6 over time.

This is kind of what I threw together just looking at other builds and prices:
Intel i7-4771 processor -$300
I would like an Asus DDR3 intel Mother board but which one? I do not want to cut corners on the mother board. -$400?
Corsair Professional Series 860 Watt Digital ATX/EPS Modular Power Supply AX860i?? -$200
Corsair hydro series liquid CPU cooler H80i -$90
Sata III solid state drive 500G -$250
Duel port Ethernet card -$50
Internal wifi card -$50?? (What model/brand should I get?)
Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit -$200
16g (4x4g) DDR3 desktop RAM- $175 (what company/model RAM to get??)
Fractal design R4 computer case - $100
What Video card/cards? - $400??
I don’t think I will need a sound card but if so which one do you recommend? - $??
I would also like a DVD/CD writer and a blue ray player. I do not need a blueray writer. -$100

This setup written here is estimated around $2,500. What can I do to get this down to around $2,000 or less? Again I am looking for the fastest possible computer able to stream charts and movie clips as fast as possible with up to 6 monitors and no lagging or image issues. I want a cool running system with no heat issues and as quite as possible but total silence is not necessary.

Am I missing anything else? I feel like I am missing something. I know I can cut corners with a small solid state drive but I would like a 500G. I also do not want less than 16g of RAM and I do not want to cut corners on the MB. So if you could help me pick the right models for everything and fill in what I’m missing I would extremely appreciate it. I would like to start buying parts now and finish up by the end of June and start the build.

Thank you!

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March 26, 2014 5:07:50 PM

Liquid cooler - not needed
Dual port ethernet card - not needed
Internal WiFi card - not needed. You want ethernet
Win 7 Ultimate - not needed Win 7 Pro instead
Video card - How many monitors are you wanting to run?
Sound card - not needed

Add - HDD of some sort
Add - backup scenario of some sort
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March 26, 2014 5:11:40 PM

Thank you for your response. I didn't realize windows might not be able to handle the extra monitors. I am going to start with 3 and work up. I will actually probably stop at 5 but being able to support 6 would be nice. There really is not specific reason as to why I chose Ultimate over Pro except ultimate has more features for about $40 more.
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March 26, 2014 5:16:02 PM

USAFRet said:
Liquid cooler - not needed
Dual port ethernet card - not needed
Internal WiFi card - not needed. You want ethernet
Win 7 Ultimate - not needed Win 7 Pro instead
Video card - How many monitors are you wanting to run?
Sound card - not needed

Add - HDD of some sort
Add - backup scenario of some sort

I read the liquid cooler would not be needed in another setup similar to mine but it wouldnt be a bad thing to add it. I I am going to start with 3 monitors and work up to probably 5. I don't think I will go past 5 but I figured I should just prep for 6.
I also read the sound card was not needed but I figured I would as while I was asking about everything else.
I also forgot to ask about the HDD I did not know if you could have a solid state and HDD together.

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March 26, 2014 5:19:28 PM

dustinhunt78 said:
I have another question.

Do you have any intention at all of ever overclocking this computer? Unless you will be using it for pretty serious online gaming, there is no need or real gain in doing this. You can also skip the who CPU cooler is you aren't going to be doing this, as the stock fan that comes with the CPU will be plenty adequate.


I have no plans on overclocking and okay no CPU cooler thats probably why they where mentioning it in another post i read, that is why I added it.
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March 26, 2014 5:23:22 PM

dustinhunt78 said:
I have another question.



UPDATE: Nevermind I guess. LOL You've found your solution. :D  If you need any more help just let us know.


The only questions I have left would be:
What Motherboard should I choose (I would prefer ASUS but not sure which one)
What video card/cards should I choose?
And is the power supply I chose appropriate?
Also is there a specific brand or model of RAM that I should look out for?

Other than that I can scrap the Wifi card, sound card and liquid cooler as well as switch to simple port Ethernet card and to Win 7 pro.
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March 26, 2014 5:24:40 PM

Hi

Do you realy need a I7 ? a I5 would be a lot cheaper
(unless your software can definitely use 8 threads)

I suggest you get a smaller SSD for Windows + programs (Samsung have a good reputation)
and a fast 1 or 2 TB hard disk for data (WD Black with 5 year warantee)

No need for separate sound card unless you are into HiFi music

Internet connection by cat 5e or 6 cable is likely to be much faster than wireless so why both wireless card and Duel Port ethernet card ? usually single integrated 1 Gb NIC is enough unless this is a file server

I usually buy Crucial RAM if you are not over clocking you do not realy need Ballistix (top of range)
Micron make the ram chips and own Crucial
should you get 4 x 4GB or 2 x 8 GB probably depends on curent prices and motherboard manufacturers recomendation for this.

I dont know the best way of connecting 6 screens maybe some others will give you advice
What screen size and resolution do you want.? (as this affects advice)


Are you after a combined Blue Ray plaver + DVD Writer or separate drives.
Get Cyberlink power dvd / blue ray player (the free one bundled with most DVD or Blue ray players should be upgraded to top of range)

My personal advice is buy as much as possible from the same company not lots of different companies.

Finally how are you backing this system up. To a local NAS or server or usb (V3.0) hard drive
What about a good quality UPS to keep you going in case of power cuts ? ( APC 1200VA)

regards
Mike Barnes
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March 26, 2014 5:37:39 PM

mbarnes86 said:
Hi

Do you realy need a I7 ? a I5 would be a lot cheaper
(unless your software can definitely use 8 threads)

I suggest you get a smaller SSD for Windows + programs (Samsung have a good reputation)
and a fast 1 or 2 TB hard disk for data (WD Black with 5 year warantee)

No need for separate sound card unless you are into HiFi music

Internet connection by cat 5e or 6 cable is likely to be much faster than wireless so why both wireless card and Duel Port ethernet card ? usually single integrated 1 Gb NIC is enough unless this is a file server

I usually buy Crucial RAM if you are not over clocking you do not realy need Ballistix (top of range)
Micron make the ram chips and own Crucial
should you get 4 x 4GB or 2 x 8 GB probably depends on curent prices and motherboard manufacturers recomendation for this.

I dont know the best way of connecting 6 screens maybe some others will give you advice
What screen size and resolution do you want.? (as this affects advice)


Are you after a combined Blue Ray plaver + DVD Writer or separate drives.
Get Cyberlink power dvd / blue ray player (the free one bundled with most DVD or Blue ray players should be upgraded to top of range)

My personal advice is buy as much as possible from the same company not lots of different companies.

Finally how are you backing this system up. To a local NAS or server or usb (V3.0) hard drive
What about a good quality UPS to keep you going in case of power cuts ? ( APC 1200VA)

regards
Mike Barnes


I am not sure. Would i5 be a better option? Is there a noticeable difference in performance between the 2? What i5 would you recommend instead of i7?

I can definitely go smaller SSD now that I know an HDD can also be ran with it (I did not know that before.)

No on the sound card

I will scrap the wifi card and double Ethernet port (I used to use this with xbox back in the day so I figured I would throw it in there again)

Ok I will look out for crucial RAM. Thank you for that

I have not decided 100% on monitor sizes yet. I was thinking maybe 3 22’’ wide screens to start. I have not looked into resolution.

I would like to get a DVD/Blue ray play in one to be nice. This would be more of a “Luxury feature” and not necessary to the build but I would like to have a DVD/CD player and burner at least.

As far as a backup I was going to have to guy who is going to put it together for me back it up.

I am going to get a UPS I just didn’t want to include it in the price of the actual system build so I did not list it.

You guys are really teaching me a lot and answering my questions thank you!
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March 27, 2014 8:46:36 AM

Hi
Unless you
Have some software in mind for day trading it is difficult to know if i7 with 8 threads is any better than an i5 at the same speed
Go for almost the fastest i5 on the market when you buy it
Probably i5 4670. The K costs more but only needed for over clocking ability


A combined DVD writer with blue ray player is ok unless you need to copy lots of DVD's then 2 optical drives

You need to back up business data regularly
Acronis provides software that backs up specified data when the system is not busy. Possibly to a USB 3 external hard disk or set of hard disks
With at least one backup off site
You could use backup to the cloud over the internet as well as some other local method
Regards
Mike Barnes
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March 27, 2014 2:35:18 PM

Ok sounds goods, I will go for i5 from what I've been hearing and reading i7 is not needed at all.
I dont burn a lot of DVD's i just want the ability to.
I will look into Acronis.
What whould i do for a power supply? I am looking for seasonic power supply what should i look for?
I am still stumped a little on the motherboard.
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