Gaming Pc 837 Dollar Limit (No More!)

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Hello!

Recently I've been getting fed up with my terrible laptop, so I decided it was time for an upgrade. I would like to build a fast and powerful gaming pc that can handle games like skyrim with atleast 50 FPS and minecraft with about 200+ FPS, but it also needs to be AT or UNDER 837 dollars. (Including shipping) I have come up with a part list, but this is my first time and I have been told it was decent, but could be better. Here's the link: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3gyWf Also, I would like to stray away from AMD processors and stick with Intel processors. Other than that, I have no requirements. It doesn't even have to look flashy. A black case will do.

Thanks for reading through this, and I would certainly appreciate it if you replied to this thread. Have a nice day!
 
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How is the cx500 not a low qualty part? The CX series is known for using cheap capacitors.

The new Corsair PSU's are starting to do it too, the RM series for example.

This would actually be my final refined build suggestion:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4440 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($179.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI B85M-P33 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($58.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: GeIL EVO Veloce Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($62.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.23 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 760 2GB...
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I see no need to use older technology. A i5-4570 will cost the same, run cooler and be a bit faster.
Similarly, a B85 based motherboard will cost no more.
Here is one for $45:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813135356
Because you will not be overclocking, the supplied intel cpu cooler will save you the cost of an aftermarket cooler.
On ram, buy a 2 x 4gb kit so you can run in faster dual channel mode. Speed matters little.

The Antec 380 is a fine psu, and will likely work, but it is cutting it close to the evga recommendation of 24a and 450w.
I would play it safe with a Seasonic 430w unit:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151074


I will never again build without using a SSD for the OS.
It just makes everything you do so much quicker.
A one hour widows update will take 15 minutes.
Files open instantly.
A 120gb ssd will hold the OS and a half dozen games.
Consider deferring on the hard drive, you can always add one later.
With a 240gb ssd, you may never need a hard drive.
I like Samsung EVO for the ssd.

And... Why EXACTLY $837 limit?

 
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Alright, for your input. Definitely helpful. On the pricing note; 837 dollars is literally ALL of my money. I'm a highschooler with no job yet, so money isn't exactly something I have alot of. On the reccomendations topic, I will certainly check out the processor you mentioned and I will look into the ram thing. However, I don't understand why a 450W psu would be worth the extra money (If it is anymore expensive), because the estimated wattage was about 314. Involving the SSD reccomendation, I was considering that, but I was under the impression that 240 GB is very little, hardly enough for a normal computer, let alone one that will store multiple games. If you could reply again to this post, It would be much appreciated, and your previous post was helpful, so thanks!
 
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Thanks for sending me your parts list. Quick question, will downgrading the processor and upgrading the graphics card speed up my gaming or slow it down? Is gaming focused alot more around the graphics card than the actual processor?
 
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Which component the game depends on is really dependent on the individual game, as not all games require the same from either component. The processor I posted isn't exactly a downgrade, it is a newer generation and running on the 1150 platform which will allow you to upgrade in the future where as the 1155 really limits upgrades. Going with the 760 is a better idea in my opinion and that combination should not result in any worse performance than the ones you posted, but will allow for a greater chance of upgrading in the future.
 
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4440 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($179.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI B85M-G43 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($67.49 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($70.20 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.23 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 270X 2GB Video Card ($215.66 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($37.99 @ Mwave)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($84.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $795.51
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-03-26 21:51 EDT-0400)

it's $822 without the rebates and my suggested build ^^

Please post feedback/what you think.

The 4440 is not a downgrade really on the CPU you posted and logangs build is $55 overbudget(unless you use rebates)
 
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Thanks for your reply! I can't find anything to complain about here. Thanks! Ps. If any of you would like to comment on other people's lists to point on pros and cons, that would be helpful.
 
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I will point out the key differences between mine and logangs build.

His has the superior Motherboard BUT you will not notice a difference between using H81,B85 or H87 for gaming the only difference is in the amount of RAM slots and Hard drive(raid on the H87 not others) H81 is fine in my opinion but B85 is so similar in price and good, overall the motherboard choice doesn't effect gaming performance at all.

Graphics card, Once again his is superior but more costly and the 270x is one of the most cost efficient cards out right now.

Power Supply, Logangs build uses a low quality cx500 which I cannot recommend whereas the XFX 550W is a solid unit.

Also to purchase Logangs build outright will cost you $880+ dollars whereas my build is $822 outright, the prices posted as "TOTAL" on partpicker are after rebates.
 
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I cannot argue that your choice of motherboard is adequate and lower cost, or that the 270x is sufficient as both points are true. I would however say that the cx500 is not a low quality part.
 
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Is the power supply you chose much more expensive than the one he did? Could I put your PSU in with his part list?
 
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How is the cx500 not a low qualty part? The CX series is known for using cheap capacitors.

The new Corsair PSU's are starting to do it too, the RM series for example.

This would actually be my final refined build suggestion:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4440 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($179.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI B85M-P33 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($58.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: GeIL EVO Veloce Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($62.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.23 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($249.95 @ Amazon)
Case: Rosewill FBM-01 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($84.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $801.08
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-03-26 22:20 EDT-0400)

$824 dollars excluding rebates and includes the GTX 760.

Here's some GTX 760/R9 270X game benchmarks: http://anandtech.com/bench/product/1038?vs=1043

You can look at the benches OP and decide if the 760 is worth the extra money or not and the PSU's we both chose are the same price.

 
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Thank you very much for helping me out. I definitely like the list you posted. Logang, if you have any other recommendations or ways to improve upon this list, feel free to send those ideas my way. Otherwise, I will probably end up going with this list. Thanks again AshyCFC, you've been a huge help.
 
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