Antec VP 450p vs Seasonic ECO Series 400W SS400BT vs s12ii 430W for R7 260X?
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vishu_ka
March 26, 2014 10:17:13 PM
Which PSU would be better my upcoming gaming rig-
Fx 6300
GB GA-970A-DS3
R7 260x
4 gb 1600 Corsair
1 TB WD HDD (Blue)
2 or 3 120mm Cabinet fans
Asus DVD RW
P.S- It will be used only for gaming and watching 1080p movies..... nothing else and 'No overclocking'!!
I am tight on budget thats why i am considering mainly VP 450p nd SS400BT but still S12ii is worth spending extra then i will try to squeeze some bucks out!!
Fx 6300
GB GA-970A-DS3
R7 260x
4 gb 1600 Corsair
1 TB WD HDD (Blue)
2 or 3 120mm Cabinet fans
Asus DVD RW
P.S- It will be used only for gaming and watching 1080p movies..... nothing else and 'No overclocking'!!
I am tight on budget thats why i am considering mainly VP 450p nd SS400BT but still S12ii is worth spending extra then i will try to squeeze some bucks out!!
More about : antec 450p seasonic eco series 400w ss400bt s12ii 430w 260x
de5_Roy
March 26, 2014 10:19:50 PM
nashdes001
March 26, 2014 10:31:50 PM
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Antec-VP450-Powe...
the review can help u understand
antec vp450 is good to go!
the review can help u understand
antec vp450 is good to go!
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photonboy
March 26, 2014 10:45:55 PM
nashdes001 said:
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Antec-VP450-Powe...the review can help u understand
antec vp450 is good to go!
I have been also recommending this for budget builds, and bought one for my sister after the Corsair CX430 I bought blew up after two hours. That does NOT reflect the customer statistics I've seen as many have had good experiences but I have to report that.
The other recommendations above are valid as well. The VP450 has a 1x6-pin for graphics cards so will work for the R7-260X.
I recommend this EVGA model instead:
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-100b1050...
This EVGA supports more PCIe connections so you can add a better graphics card if you wish in the future, and MAY (may) be quieter under load:
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-100b1050...
Antec VP450:
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/antec-power-supply-vp450
It's possible the other power supplies listed would be slightly quieter under load. I only tested in idle with an HD6450 low-end card.
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de5_Roy
March 26, 2014 10:49:11 PM
nashdes001 said:
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Antec-VP450-Powe...the review can help u understand
antec vp450 is good to go!
not so fast. that review is for the non-p version, the one without active pfc and 80+ certification.
vp450p is fine, but it has two slightly different versions floating around the markets without saying which one is which. one has a lower spec primary cap (capxon, 270uF at 95 celcius/420volts) than the other(the better one- matsushita, 105c/450v)... and there's no way to know for sure unless you know where to look. even if you're okay with that.... i'd still recommend seasonic over fsp's entry level platform.
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nashdes001
March 26, 2014 10:53:23 PM
de5_Roy said:
nashdes001 said:
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Antec-VP450-Powe...the review can help u understand
antec vp450 is good to go!
not so fast. that review is for the non-p version, the one without active pfc and 80+ certification.
vp450p is fine, but it has two slightly different versions floating around the markets without saying which one is which. one has a lower spec primary cap (capxon, 270uF at 95 celcius/420volts) than the other(the better one- matsushita, 105c/450v)... and there's no way to know for sure unless you know where to look. even if you're okay with that.... i'd still recommend seasonic over fsp's entry level platform.
theres little diff in active pfc and passive pfc
and active pfc is need for 80+ certification
without that also the vp 450 has 80+ output
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photonboy
March 26, 2014 10:57:37 PM
de5_Roy said:
nashdes001 said:
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Antec-VP450-Powe...the review can help u understand
antec vp450 is good to go!
not so fast. that review is for the non-p version, the one without active pfc and 80+ certification.
vp450p is fine, but it has two slightly different versions floating around the markets without saying which one is which. one has a lower spec primary cap (capxon, 270uF at 95 celcius/420volts) than the other(the better one- matsushita, 105c/450v)... and there's no way to know for sure unless you know where to look. even if you're okay with that.... i'd still recommend seasonic over fsp's entry level platform.
Yes, but as you said it is VP450 or VP450p.
The good review is for the VP450 (non-p) version. I can't speak as to the quality of the non-p version, but keep in mind these are BUDGET power supplies so unless the non-p version is statistically prone to fail it's still a good value.
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vishu_ka
March 27, 2014 2:26:50 AM
people i m totally confused now......
1) @de5 s12ii 520 wont be possible for me.... its cost Rs 5078 = 90$ way out of my budget!!
s12ii 430 cant say right now.... cost around 60$
now u are recommending ECO 500 so wont ECO 400 suffice for this rig?
2)@nashdes @photon whats the difference between VP 450p nd VP 450?
1) @de5 s12ii 520 wont be possible for me.... its cost Rs 5078 = 90$ way out of my budget!!
s12ii 430 cant say right now.... cost around 60$
now u are recommending ECO 500 so wont ECO 400 suffice for this rig?
2)@nashdes @photon whats the difference between VP 450p nd VP 450?
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nashdes001
March 27, 2014 2:30:04 AM
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vishu_ka
March 27, 2014 2:35:54 AM
nashdes001
March 27, 2014 2:38:45 AM
de5_Roy
March 27, 2014 3:02:11 AM
vishu_ka said:
people i m totally confused now......i recommended higher wattage seasonic psu not becuase of watts number, but because of higher quality.
vishu_ka said:
1) @de5 s12ii 520 wont be possible for me.... its cost Rs 5078 = 90$ way out of my budget!!
s12ii 430 cant say right now.... cost around 60$
now u are recommending ECO 500 so wont ECO 400 suffice for this rig?
it should work, 6300 uses ~95w (can go over 100) at load at stock settings, r7 260x uses 115w, cpu+gfx card should use total 210+ w at load at stock settings. according to google, the eco 400 (ss400bt) has 30A on it's +12v rail - 360w max. eco 500 will obviously be better because it has more amperage on +12v rail (34A, 408w). you'd be limited in terms of upgrades, though.. e.g. 125w cpus, overclocking, higher end gfx card etc.
according to specs, s12ii 430 bronze has 2 rails with 17A each, better capacitor (chemi-con iirc) it also has 2x 6/8 pin pcie power connectors. vp 450p has one, i dunno if eco 400/500 has them.
vishu_ka said:
2)@nashdes @photon whats the difference between VP 450p nd VP 450?
nashdes: you can take a flashlight and look inside your psu to check if you have the capxon capacitor. look way back inside for a black capacitor with grey vertical stripe saying capxon, 270uF, 420v etc. having active pfc is not sign of higher quality, just indicates it has an active pfc circuit.
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nashdes001
March 27, 2014 3:10:26 AM
de5_Roy said:
vishu_ka said:
people i m totally confused now......i recommended higher wattage seasonic psu not becuase of watts number, but because of higher quality.
vishu_ka said:
1) @de5 s12ii 520 wont be possible for me.... its cost Rs 5078 = 90$ way out of my budget!!
s12ii 430 cant say right now.... cost around 60$
now u are recommending ECO 500 so wont ECO 400 suffice for this rig?
it should work, 6300 uses ~95w (can go over 100) at load at stock settings, r7 260x uses 115w, cpu+gfx card should use total 210+ w at load at stock settings. according to google, the eco 400 (ss400bt) has 30A on it's +12v rail - 360w max. eco 500 will obviously be better because it has more amperage on +12v rail (34A, 408w). you'd be limited in terms of upgrades, though.. e.g. 125w cpus, overclocking, higher end gfx card etc. if you go with ss400bt, keep that in mind.
vishu_ka said:
2)@nashdes @photon whats the difference between VP 450p nd VP 450?
nashdes: you can take a flashlight and look inside your psu to check if you have the capxon capacitor. look way back inside for a black capacitor with grey vertical stripe saying capxon, 270uF, 420v etc. having active pfc is not sign of higher quality, just indicates it has an active pfc circuit.
I knw that
I just gave him the best option in his budget
n i didnt say having active pfc circuit means higher quality I said active pfc is needed to have the certification of 80+
N I knw seasonic is the best psu maker
seasonic make parts of antec and xfx psus
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chimera201
March 27, 2014 4:06:35 AM
vishu_ka
March 27, 2014 7:32:25 AM
chimera201
March 27, 2014 8:20:59 AM
vishu_ka said:
ok i somewhat understood what u r emphasizing..... in this rig trust me except one more 1 TB HDD and 1 4GB ram i m going to add nothing ever and no overclocking either! (coz no money for hyper evo)Now tell me ECO 400 (~360W max) would be enough??
At that price point I would suggest the Corsair CX 430. I doubt the ECO series has PCIe connectors
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vishu_ka
March 28, 2014 12:20:32 PM
chimera201
March 28, 2014 1:14:50 PM
vishu_ka said:
but i have seen few reviews saying CX and VS series suck big time so Antec highly recommended if not Seasonic!!Corsair VS series definitely sucks. But as far as CX and Antec Basiq series is concerned both are pretty much the same quality , Corsair might actually be better. And since that is the VP450P and not VP450, I won't recommend that.
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photonboy
March 28, 2014 5:33:04 PM
He's on a severely restricted budget.
Based on all the comments, I recommend just getting whichever Corsair/Antec fits his budget.
We could talk all day about the likelihood of a part failing since it's cheaper or whatever, but statistically speaking INEXPENSIVE power supplies will also have a higher failure probability.
So if the Antec VP450 fits your bill, just get it.
Based on all the comments, I recommend just getting whichever Corsair/Antec fits his budget.
We could talk all day about the likelihood of a part failing since it's cheaper or whatever, but statistically speaking INEXPENSIVE power supplies will also have a higher failure probability.
So if the Antec VP450 fits your bill, just get it.
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http://www.theitdepot.com/search.html?keywords=Seasonic...
Seasonic 430W Power Supply (S12II-430)
Seasonic 430W Power Supply (S12II-430)
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photonboy
March 28, 2014 6:32:20 PM
SR-71 Blackbird said:
http://www.theitdepot.com/search.html?keywords=Seasonic...Seasonic 430W Power Supply (S12II-430)
Not only "OUT OF STOCK" but also out of his budget which he already stated clearly a few times.
Corsair VS450:
Yes, long-term reliability is an issue but that might just mean four years instead of ten so he can factor that into his decision:
http://hardwareinsights.com/wp/corsair-vs450-review/4/
Store: http://www.theitdepot.com/details-Corsair+VS+Series+VS4...(CP-9020049-WW)_C14P16661.html
Antec VP450p:
A better PSU but slightly more expensive. Apparently the limit of his budget? It may or may not last as long as the non-p version but it's probably better than the VS450:
Store: http://www.theitdepot.com/details-Corsair+VS+Series+VS4...(CP-9020049-WW)_C14P16661.html
*Again, he's on a budget so he's never going to get a model that has glowing reviews. However, I've seen plenty of worse power supplies last 10+ years so I say just get one of these, or similar, and if it fails then it fails and either return it under Warranty or buy a different model.
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vishu_ka
March 29, 2014 6:47:24 AM
Look guys reading here and there one thing that is limpid is Seasonic is best-
Now i will definitely try to get my hands on s12ii 430 but for 2nd best option which ones is better...... Seasonic ECO Series 400W or Antec VP 450p??? (i am biased towards ECO 400 but if it wont be enough for my rig requirement then no point of buying it so VP 450p would be bestnd i can afford it too)
"Antec VP450p:
A better PSU but slightly more expensive. Apparently the limit of his budget? It may or may not last as long as the non-p version but it's probably better than the VS450"
Sounds like non-p version is better!!?? (please clear this point also)
Now i will definitely try to get my hands on s12ii 430 but for 2nd best option which ones is better...... Seasonic ECO Series 400W or Antec VP 450p??? (i am biased towards ECO 400 but if it wont be enough for my rig requirement then no point of buying it so VP 450p would be bestnd i can afford it too)
"Antec VP450p:
A better PSU but slightly more expensive. Apparently the limit of his budget? It may or may not last as long as the non-p version but it's probably better than the VS450"
Sounds like non-p version is better!!?? (please clear this point also)
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chimera201
March 29, 2014 8:05:32 AM
vishu_ka said:
Look guys reading here and there one thing that is limpid is Seasonic is best- Now i will definitely try to get my hands on s12ii 430 but for 2nd best option which ones is better...... Seasonic ECO Series 400W or Antec VP 450p??? (i am biased towards ECO 400 but if it wont be enough for my rig requirement then no point of buying it so VP 450p would be bestnd i can afford it too)
"Antec VP450p:
A better PSU but slightly more expensive. Apparently the limit of his budget? It may or may not last as long as the non-p version but it's probably better than the VS450"
Sounds like non-p version is better!!?? (please clear this point also)
Antec VP450p : it's probably better than the VS450 - which is considered crap by enthusiasts. So the best PSU option is Corsair CX 430. Corsair CX 430 is 80+ Bronze certified while Antec VP450P is not even certified. CX430 has more connectors and is new.
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cases/display/psu-400w...
"The Antec VP450P is a real disappointment. Being highly efficient, this PSU has a very unstable +5V voltage, poor fan speed regulation (the fan accelerates linearly right from the start) and an undeservedly high price. It is only cheaper than the other Antec in this review, but the latter is free from the mentioned downsides and offers much more power on the +12V rail."
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vishu_ka
March 29, 2014 12:55:00 PM
chimera201
March 29, 2014 1:36:17 PM
vishu_ka said:
Corsair CX 430 seems promising....... bro i am getting more confused!!Is there similar kind of review for CX 430 from trusted site u know??
There aren't reviews on the new model of CX430 but there are on the older model:
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Corsair-CX430-V2...
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=...
The new model is 80+ Bronze certified and has 32A on +12V rail
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Sangeet Khatri
March 30, 2014 5:18:29 AM
vishu_ka
March 30, 2014 11:30:51 AM
vishu_ka
March 30, 2014 11:37:58 AM
nd look here guys http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-1668768/seasonic...
people are not recommending CX series for gaming.... now this is why i am confused,,,, same say go for it nd say dont!
people are not recommending CX series for gaming.... now this is why i am confused,,,, same say go for it nd say dont!
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chimera201
March 30, 2014 12:11:50 PM
vishu_ka said:
@chimera u mean CX 430-V2 is older model??? (coz V2 sounds like Version2 hence newer nd better)!!Here u can see all models:
http://www.realhardtechx.com/index_archivos/Page447.htm
On that link no one explained why Antec VP450P is better than Corsair CX430.
Antec VP450 (not P) uses Teapo and CapXon capacitors. Corsair CX430V2 uses Teapo and Samxon capacitors.
As per this link:
http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthread.php?t=388
CapXon and Teapo were bad cap manufacturers as of 7-4-2013
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vishu_ka
April 4, 2014 12:23:46 AM
Hey please help me calculating total wattage of this rig.....
CPU- 95W
R7 260x- 120W or 200W? (http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/radeon_r7_260x_r9_...)
HDD- ?
2X120mm fans- ?
Mobo, Ram, Optical drive-?
CPU- 95W
R7 260x- 120W or 200W? (http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/radeon_r7_260x_r9_...)
HDD- ?
2X120mm fans- ?
Mobo, Ram, Optical drive-?
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chimera201
April 4, 2014 1:37:32 AM
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