ITX, emphasizing smallness, then gaming power?

FineLittleTheory

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Hi everyone. Like many of you I am into the idea of a tiny and powerful gaming box. As a "fantasy build" for now, what case, cooling and other components would you use if you valued the following, roughly weighted by the percentages given:

60% - Smaller overall case size (minimize cu. in. or mm3)
30% - Higher gaming performance (with "enthusiast" as a minimum, i.e. GTX 760), including CPU-intensive titles (I play Planetside2)
10% - Quieter

Stability is of course a requirement.

No need for: extra slots, space for more than 1 ssd, optical drive, etc.. Budget not a significant constraint. Say, up to about $3000.

I can't wait to read some suggestions!
 

adumbbird13

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Just buy a titan Z. Nothing else. Should be enough to run most things ;D

In all seriousness, this is what I came up with: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3hqXd

Processor: i7, 4th gen for some serious kick-ass cpu performance on games like Planetside. Could also double as some hefty streaming/editing/recording performance

Cooler: The h50 is a decent water cooler, but due to size requirements this has to be mounted in the drive bays, hence the lack of a drive

RAM: Ripjaw, 16gb. Why not, could use this for editing as well.

Motherboard: MSI z87i Gaming AC for some stability on overclocks. Why not again? We've got $3000 in the bank!

Storage: Again, because of money, we're going to go big and buy a Crucial M500 1TB (Almost) SSD. Serious performance, and can be simply attached on the base of the case

GPU: We have $3000, obvious we're going to get a titan. As previously mentioned, editing can also be an option, and that's what the Titan is built for: performance, gaming, developing, literally everything

PSU: Corsair Pro 650W. Really quiet, 80+ gold, nice on your hydro bill

Case: Cooler Master 120 Elite Advanced, in sexy white. Not the smallest, but definitely my favourite m-ITX case

OS: Windows 8.1 Pro, take advantage of some of the sharing features if you use it for editing

Total price: $2463.65
Total badass figure: a lot.


 

combine1237

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($324.98 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Antec Kuhler H2O 620 Liquid CPU Cooler ($60.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Asus Z87I-Deluxe Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard ($182.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($154.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Samsung EVO 1TB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($454.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 4TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($234.00 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB Video Card ($769.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Silverstone RVZ01B Mini ITX Desktop Case ($84.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Silverstone Strider Gold 450W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular SFX Power Supply ($100.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG BT30N Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($89.99 @ Mwave)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 Pro (OEM) (64-bit) ($139.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $2598.85
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-03-27 13:46 EDT-0400)

Practically throwing money out the door, but here is my suggestion.
 
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Rammy

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One thing to note is that your primary goal is size. This can mean multiple different things. You mention the overall volume, but in a practical sense, that's a pretty meaningless number.
Something like a Coolermaster Elite 120/130 is fairly small in terms of volume, especially considering what you can fit inside it (you won't go much smaller and still be able to fit a full sized ODD and PSU) but unless you have a low/narrow kind of gap you need to fill in a desk, it's not all that small in a real sense.
One of the lowest volume cases you can buy is the EVGA Hadron Air, which manages to be very small due to the non-ATX PSU. If sheer cubic capacity is the goal, then it's likely to be hard to beat, though there are compromises.
Small for most people, in the practical sense, comes entirely down to the footprint of the case, as a lot of small cases are going to be placed on a desk, where you aren't height limited. In this instance, the Silverstone FT03-Mini and Silverstone RVZ01 are both pretty good, in different proportions, though both have their issues too (slim ODD, SFX PSU, limited cooler options etc).

Performance these days isn't really dictated by size but by your wallet. High end Z87 ITX boards aren't far off their ATX brethren, and the in game differences are likely to be near to zero. In a lot of ITX cases, graphics cards sit alongside the edge of the case, so have their own air supply, meaning that they can often get better temperatures than in a massive ATX tower with a silly number of fans.
If you are using a standard ITX case skewed towards gaming builds, then you will almost undoubtedly have 250-300mm of double slot graphics card space, which basically means you can fit any graphics card on the market, though obviously each case is a bit different. This means there isn't really any advantage in hunting for shorter cooler graphics cards (like the Asus GTX760/GTX670 Mini or MSI GTX760 "ITX"), and once you go above this level (GTX770/GTX680 etc) you are limited by the length of the PCB itself, so even a custom case wouldn't be able to cut down much in this area.

Noise is generally incompatible with performance, as basically any choice you make towards silence will have some sort of impact on the airflow of the case. This includes things like using solid panel variants (rather than mesh/vented panels) or picking components which are, for example, fanless. There are several you can do though -
Make sure to have some level of control over fans, either fan controller or through the motherboard.
Buy quality fans. Good fans are usually quieter due to higher quality bearings, plus can be run at lower speeds.
Be prepared to swap characteristics as required. Most systems can easily be made "silent" by running fans at lower speeds when maximum performance isn't needed, and a lot of graphics cards come with fairly aggressive fan profiles to make them look good in performance benchmarks, something which can be tweaked really easily.
 

FineLittleTheory

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It is so cool to be able to get great answers like these just a few hours after posting. Thanks @Rammy, @combine1237, and adumbbird13.

The main things I learned here were:
- An SFX power supply is okay, and it is possible do a build like this with just 450W.
- Not considering SFX, I hadn't been aware of RVZ01 or Hadron Air cases. They both look really cool, and displace roughly the same quite small volume.
- You can put a big old $750 GPU in one of those tiny ITX/SFX cases.

Basically, exactly the kinds of things I wanted to know. Now I know what my next build will be... maybe not the $2500 version, but still something incorporating your answers. Thanks again!