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March 27, 2014 10:56:18 AM

Hello, My name is Arie and I have my PC for 3.5 years now. I've update it like every year, it always worked really well.

Since last month the booting of my PC took significantly longer then before. Last week it started to freeze in the first booting screen. So I restarted it and it worked fine and I was relieved ;) .
So two days ago it happened again so again I restated it. It finished the first booting screen, but then you get the black screen with the "-"blinking in the left above corner. Usually it blinks like two times and doesn't even jump down. It jumped like 10 times, jumped a line down, jumped again like 10 times and then another time. Then it booted. I became worried and started googling, couldn't find anything.
So yesterday I tried booting it again and it gave the "4th master (...) " error. After turning it on and of again for like 5 times, it finaly booted finally booted. I noticed that my autorun programs didn't work. (I have no shortcuts on my "home screen"(i'm dutch, I dont speak English fluent. I'm working on it ;)  )
I searched for the programs via the windows key, it couldn't find anything from my D: drive and my computer froze.So i started rebooting again, and i found a pattern out. When my autorun programs won't show up my computer won't work, only programs that are installed on my C: drive. When I try to get files/programs from my D drive it will freeze. When my autorun programs do load it will work for like a hour perfect, also things from the D: disc. After that out it will make like "TRRRR" occasionally when im playing music or gaming noises. I know it's going to freeze soon so I finish my game and save my documents and yes after like four times a "TRR" of half a second/ a second it makes a long one of like 10 seconds and then it freezes completely. It won't even show a blue screen or some thing. ( I dont know if that is a bad thing or not in this case)

I havent updated my harware recently. I have got a:
ASROCK motherboard
m4 SSD (my C: drive)
a Western digital Hd (my D: drive)
a optical cd drive

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I have a "modded" version of windows 8, it doesn't have that weird tablet screen thing. I think that it also maybe has to do something with steam since that program/games can make it crash, but that doesn't explain the booting problems since i uninstalled it and it still happened. I won't be mad if i have to buy new parts. (rather not though) I have these parts for quite a while. I already tried to boot without speakers/headset/keyboard/mouse etc. didn't work. I also tried updating all drivers. The m4 driver updating program doesn't recognise my SSD.

I'm hoping someone can help me out. If you need more details just ask for them.

Arie aka StyloMonnik
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a b * Windows 8
March 27, 2014 12:32:51 PM

Not really sure what you have here, this sounds very 'kludged' and you may actually have been causing issues to yourself ontop the obvious problem, the SSD is dying / failing.

As we haven't real specifics of your system here we can do some basics first please to get out of the way 'the usual suspects' that can actually hide the problem or just get in the way of a valid diagnosis.

Open Computer, Can Air dust out the bunnies and use paint brush on the vents, coolers, fans, etc.
Download and run SPECCY, copy and paste the first tab to show your idle temps
Download and run MSI Afterburner, run some of the games that crash, what temps are you getting when underload?

Did you install all Windows Updates? Including options except BING? Check them and repeat till ALL are installed.
Download and run Slim Drivers, install all the latest updates but you don't need to reboot until you do the last update

Remove whatever AV your using and go to www.filehippo.com and download AVAST! or AVG and do a full system scan - this repeatedly has resolved alot of people issue relying on MS Essentials.

Download Malwarebytes do a full system scan (AV doesn't pick up alot of malware) - this resolved almost ALL other similiar posts to date as most had Malware the AV didn't pick up.
Repeat the AV/Malware scans till the system comes up clean.

Last considerations: How big is your M4 SSD, and how much space is left?
Is this a torrented 'modified' Windows?
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March 27, 2014 12:43:35 PM

Phillip Corcoran said:
Test the WD hard drive with WD Data Lifeguard Diagnostic for Windows as it could be starting to fail, in which case it will need replacing with a new one: http://support.wd.com/product/download.asp?groupid=606&...


I ran the tests on both hard disk, and this where the results:
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Test Option: QUICK TEST
Model Number: WDC WD6400AAKS-65Z7B0
Unit Serial Number: WD-WCASYF418077
Firmware Number: 01.03B01
Capacity: 640.13 GB
SMART Status: PASS
Test Result: PASS
Test Time: 20:31:47, March 27, 2014

Test Option: QUICK TEST
Model Number: M4-CT064M4SSD2
Unit Serial Number: 0000000013130933809E
Firmware Number: 070H
Capacity: 64.02 GB
SMART Status: PASS
Test Result: PASS
Test Time: 20:36:33, March 27, 2014

So it looks to me that that isn't the problem to me.
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March 27, 2014 12:55:53 PM

Tom Tancredi said:
Not really sure what you have here, this sounds very 'kludged' and you may actually have been causing issues to yourself ontop the obvious problem, the SSD is dying / failing.

As we haven't real specifics of your system here we can do some basics first please to get out of the way 'the usual suspects' that can actually hide the problem or just get in the way of a valid diagnosis.

Open Computer, Can Air dust out the bunnies and use paint brush on the vents, coolers, fans, etc.
Download and run SPECCY, copy and paste the first tab to show your idle temps
Download and run MSI Afterburner, run some of the games that crash, what temps are you getting when underload?

Did you install all Windows Updates? Including options except BING? Check them and repeat till ALL are installed.
Download and run Slim Drivers, install all the latest updates but you don't need to reboot until you do the last update

Remove whatever AV your using and go to www.filehippo.com and download AVAST! or AVG and do a full system scan - this repeatedly has resolved alot of people issue relying on MS Essentials.

Download Malwarebytes do a full system scan (AV doesn't pick up alot of malware) - this resolved almost ALL other similiar posts to date as most had Malware the AV didn't pick up.
Repeat the AV/Malware scans till the system comes up clean.

Last considerations: How big is your M4 SSD, and how much space is left?
Is this a torrented 'modified' Windows?


Hey, first I want to thank you for taking your time to help me awnser my question. As you can see in my last reply my ssd is 64 gigs and almost full. I only have windows and my favorite games installed. I am going to uninstall a couple of them. (I guess you will say that to me later ;)  ) The version of my windows is not a torrented version. I got it at my local computer shop with a great discount. It had an original key etc. I'm downloading the programs that you reccomended. I already have Malwarebytes Antivirus. I use(d) it on a daily basis and it never picked a virus. I just updated my database to be sure and ran another test.


**Update**

I usually have the fan manually controlled so the cpu drops another 5 degrees
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March 27, 2014 1:31:22 PM

Oke, my computer just bluescreened and gave a kernel message.
I found out that i hadn't plugged in my sd drive reader which connects true the back with usb. I connected it and rebooted... nothing. Howeever, the next time i turned it on i had to select a new boot menu. I selected my m4 disk. My pc booted up perfectly the "-" only blinked 1 time. I am not going to jinx myself by saying that it is solved.
I am going to reboot my pc a couple more times to see if it worked. I just thought that this was something i had to share.

**Update from my phone**
when rebooting the pc it asked if i wanted to update windows.(you know what i mean) And it is installing 23 updates!! even tho i just checked and everything was up to date. it is stuck at update 3 for a while now but i am going to give it some time.

**Second Update**
It got stuck updating at update 18. It comepletely froze. After reebooting the pc gave the Select Proper Booting device Error. A error that im getting more often. The second time it booted.


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March 27, 2014 2:04:47 PM

Okay I see the temps look sfine. A SSD should never be more then 50% full or it deteriorates in performance. ANY Drive Windows itself is on MUST have a minimum of 20% of the drive available for Temp files and other things, that your "all most full" is a big issue. Please not SSD does not increase game performance (unless your talking loading screens) and should ONLY be installed on the HDD. I would recommend googling 'Moving STEAM games to new Drive' if these are downloaded from STEAM, to move them ALL to the HDD would be first primary solution.

I am more of the mind, at this point because of all these things you basically wore out the SSD. I would seek a ext drive ASAP and run Windows Easy Transfer (after the STEAM move) to backup your data for recovery later. You can attempt to use DBAN to wipe the SSD then reinstall Windows and apps again, but if the SSD is that wore out you may need to replace it.
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March 27, 2014 2:19:28 PM

Tom Tancredi said:
Okay I see the temps look sfine. A SSD should never be more then 50% full or it deteriorates in performance. ANY Drive Windows itself is on MUST have a minimum of 20% of the drive available for Temp files and other things, that your "all most full" is a big issue. Please not SSD does not increase game performance (unless your talking loading screens) and should ONLY be installed on the HDD. I would recommend googling 'Moving STEAM games to new Drive' if these are downloaded from STEAM, to move them ALL to the HDD would be first primary solution.

I am more of the mind, at this point because of all these things you basically wore out the SSD. I would seek a ext drive ASAP and run Windows Easy Transfer (after the STEAM move) to backup your data for recovery later. You can attempt to use DBAN to wipe the SSD then reinstall Windows and apps again, but if the SSD is that wore out you may need to replace it.


i want to thank you for your help. i dont care about the 2 games that i have on my sd, so i am not going to backup it(or do you reccomend it for other reasons) i have all my files on my western digital hdd.. since i dont have this ssd that long(not even half a year) im going to get my money back and buy myself one from a different brand. and again thanks for your help.
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