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Help me. PC for 3d modelling + with 3 monitors max budget 3400 dollars

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March 28, 2014 4:35:48 PM

Hi

Im looking for help and advice on what to buy since I need a pc for 3d modelling.
I had liked to have a setup with 3 monitors, so I guess I'll need two graphic cards.

my budget is 3400 dollars with includes the purchase of 3 monitors.

So what setup will be best (CPU,GPU,RAM etc.), I'll mostly use Solidworks and Photoshop.

I have also thought about buying used, so I'll get more for my money, is this any good Idea?

Best regards and thanks
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March 28, 2014 8:00:41 PM

you can use this template as reference
you may swap the GPU to GTX 780. it will save you $400

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-4930K 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor ($565.25 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H105 73.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus P9X79 LE ATX LGA2011 Motherboard ($229.97 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-2400 Memory ($310.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial M500 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($84.81 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($699.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($699.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Define XL R2 (Black Pearl) ATX Full Tower Case ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 850W 80+ Silver Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($134.65 @ Amazon)
Monitor: Asus VX238H-W 23.0" Monitor ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Asus VX238H-W 23.0" Monitor ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Asus VX238H-W 23.0" Monitor ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $3455.58
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-03-28 22:59 EDT-0400)
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March 28, 2014 9:40:18 PM

dynamitetalks,

Buying > Of course, researching, ordering, assembling, configuring, loading, and testing a new system can be time consuming, but the hardware is new , tailored to your uses, and building will impart an intimate knowledge if something goes wrong. Somewhat better cost/performance as well, mainly because the hardware continues to improve while costs may actually drop.

If you were to buy, for your use I would suggest a Dell Precision T7500 with a Xeon X5680 6-core /12 thread @ 3.33GHz- 32GB RAM, (Perhaps $1,300 and a Quadro K4000 (3GB) ($750 or $550 used). With monitors (I suggest 24"), this may still be under the $3,400 and you can add a second X5680 later to have 12 cores / 24 threads- rendering dynamite! The X5680 is still a great CPU even by modern performance standards and the ability to have two 6-cores is very useful.

Building > To have the bandwidth for 3D modeling, LGA2011, high clock speed 6- core for rendering, ECC RAM to prevent artifacts and good shadows, reflections and color gradients, CUDA accleration for Adobe CS, and a workstation card is a necessity for Solidworks to run the viewports and anti-aliasing. Amazingly, a $175 ATI V4900 is faster than a GTX Titan in Solidworks. The Quadro K4000 (3GB) is a good one for Solidworks and is made to run three monitors. The performance of a modern Xeon E5 at 3.5GHz+ is extremely good.

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1. CPU > Intel Xeon E5-1650 v2 Six-Core Processor 3.5 / 3.9GHz 0GT/s 12MB LGA 2011 CPU, OEM $579.99 (Superbiiz)

2. CPU Cooler > CORSAIR Hydro Series H50 Quiet Edition Water / Liquid CPU Cooler. 120mm > $60

3. ASRock X79 Extreme3 LGA 2011 Intel X79 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard $199.99
3A OPT'L > ASUS P9X79 WS LGA 2011 Intel X79 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 SSI CEB Intel Motherboard with USB BIOS > $374.

4. RAM > Kingston 32GB (4 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM ECC Unbuffered DDR3 1600 Server Memory >$380. (Check motherboard compatibility list)

5. GPU > NVIDIA Quadro K4000 VCQK4000-PB 3GB GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 Workstation Video Card > $759 (The K400 may connect 3 monitos using Displayport hub of the thre direct connections > 2 X DP and 1X DVI)

6. HD 1 > SAMSUNG 840 EVO MZ-7TE250BW 2.5" 250GB SATA 6Gb/s MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) > $160

7. HD 2> Western Digital Black WD2003FZEX 2TB 7200RPM SATA3/SATA 6.0 GB/s 64MB Hard Drive (3.5 inch) ) > $156

8. PSU> SeaSonic X Series X650 Gold ((SS-650KM Active PFC F3) 650W ATX12V V2.3/EPS 12V V2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Full Modular Active PFC Power Supply $120.

9. Case > LIAN LI PC-7HX Black Aluminum ATX Mid Tower Computer Case $100.

10. Optical Dr > ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM $17.

11. OS > Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64-bit (Full Version) - OEM $140

12. Monitors > 3X ViewSonic VG2439M-LED Black 24" 5ms Widescreen LED Monitor 300 cd/m2 DC 20,000,000:1 DisplayPort > $720 ($240 ea)

TOTAL = $3392. or with ASUS P9X79 WS = $3,566


Cheers,

BambiBoom

HP z420 (2014) > Xeon E5-1620 quad core @ 3.6 / 3.8GHz > 24GB ECC 1600 RAM > Quadro 4000 (2GB)> Samsung 840 SSD 250GB /Western Digital Black WD1003FZEX 1TB> M-Audio 192 sound card > AE3000 USB WiFi > HP 2711X, 27" 1920 X 1080 > Windows 7 Ultimate 64 >[Passmark system rating = 3923, 2D= 839 / 3D=2048]

Dell Precision T5400 (2008) > 2X Xeon X5460 quad core @3.16GHz > 16GB ECC 667> Quadro FX 4800 (1.5GB) > WD RE4 500GB / Seagate Barracuda 500GB > M-Audio 2496 Sound Card / Linksys 600N WiFi > Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit >[Passmark system rating = 1859, 2D= 512 / 3D=1097]

2D, 3D CAD, Image Processing, Rendering, Text > Architecture, industrial design, graphic design, written projects [AutoCad, Revit, 3ds Max, Vray, Solidworks, Inventor, Sketchup, Adobe CS, WordPerfect, MS Office]
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March 29, 2014 8:14:17 AM

Thanks for both answers and suggestions, I really appreciate it.

I did, some research around the internet last night, and for what I could read, from articles and other
forum threads:

Its pretty much suggested to use the Quadro 4000 card, Firepro or GT 780 / GT 780 TI.
But the Quadro card is 1½ year old, should this worry me? Do they soon come out with a new version?

Since im bit of a perfectionist, I want to know what really suits me best taken the price in consideration.

16 gb ram is fine for modelling, and 32gb is more for video editing. since the price different isn't alot between 1600 mhz and 1800 mhz, its better
going for the 1800 mhz then.

For a program like autocad is it more suggest to use, a cpu with a higher clock frequence then a cpu with
more core's, since the program doens't use all the core's anyway.

Then when you look around the internet, an xeon cpu or rather two of them, 6 cores
is as much suggested as an i7-4770 / i7-4930 for example.

The PSU should as minimum be 80+ gold certificated.

For the screen its seems like two monitors or three monitors is more a subjectiv opinion whether the one is
more productive than the other solution.

I can go with one graphic card and two monitors also if that would be a better build for the price.

I'd like to know what other people like to use as monitors, when they're modeling.

I think I will prefer the three monitors setup, so I will have one screen more in focus of me, than I'll
with two screens. but two screens kinda alows to use bigger screens, which might be more preferable when
modelling, but then again a three monitor setup, could also be made by one big screen as center, and a smaller
one each side.

What size of a display do you believe is best for modelling? 22 - 30"

what frequence?, what resolution? what response time? anything else? ofcouse still taken the price of the monitor in
consideration.


Now I want to understand what I should take since.
I will mostly do modelling, assembling and sometimes there will be alot of parts in the assemby and rendering.

The reason for the quadro over for example the gt 780 is that the quadro is build to be used heavily for a longer time.
Where the gt 780 is not build for been used heavily for a longer time.

I can also wait two month if you know some better graphic card is coming out soon.

if im mistaken in anything I just have readen, then correct me.
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