i7 4770k vs i5 4670k high end gaming build
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eden2012
March 28, 2014 6:18:04 PM
I want the most PREMIUM performance. Even if its a 5-10 fps gain, I will spend the extra cash. I've heard that the i7 can be worse and the i5 is better and vise versa. Whats the truth? I keep hearing mixed stories. But heres the thing. I will have 2 780ti's in my rig and I don't want my CPU to bottleneck them.
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rolli59 said:
A modern I5 does not bottleneck any GPU today if you give them enough resolution to play with. For example a single 1080P monitor would bottleneck 2 x 780Ti regardless of what CPU!Some games might require more from the CPU than others.
So even if the Cpu does not bottleneck the graphic cards per se, you might get better performance on some games with the core i7.
An example would be rome 2 total war, a highly processor intensive game.
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CTurbo said:
The i7 4770k is better than any i5, it's just not always worth extra $80-100. If you really need bragging rights, there are always the 6 core i7 Extremes like the 4930k or 4960x.+1
In 99% of cases the 4770K will give 0-5% increase over the I5 so definitely not worth the price premium based on gaming alone.
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eden2012
March 28, 2014 7:10:33 PM
There are only a few 'games' that take advantage of hyperthreading on a cpu such as a 4770K since hyperthreading is basically 'virtual cores' and most games don't use even all 4 physical cores anyways. As far as production goes with graphics apps and other non-game related stuff, then yes hyperthreading is of use, but unless you are really into 1 or 2 of those 'hyperthreading games' then for the 0%-5% fps (at 180+fps you really going to notice the extra 4fps??) the extra cost and heat really isn't worth it.
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eden2012
March 28, 2014 7:25:23 PM
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CTurbo said:
I promise you that the weak low power 8 cores in the new Xbox and Ps4 have absolutely nothing to do with PC gaming. Those cpus would make TERRIBLE PC cpus. You know they are 1.6ghz x 8 for the Ps4 and 1.75ghz x 8 for the Xbox? And that is weak AMD cores. I never said they were good.
I just said that if console games will be coded to use 8 corses, i am sure that games that are launched on both consoles and pc will also be coded to use 8 cores if available.
Is my logic flawed?
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Better get a good cpu cooler, 4770K's tend to run quite hot. Premium AirCooler would be Noctua NH-D14, Premium LiquidCooler would be CoolerMaster Eisberg 240L Prestige, but for premium performance, you should look to full boat water cooling, but that's more often used on the Intel Extreme (LGA 2011) systems.
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Not flawed, but not realistic. with such weak, low speed processors, the games (which don't have Windows stupid power/cpu core saving crap, are almost forced to maximize use of multicore tech. PC's however don't have that limitation and have much more powerful cpu's, so multicore coding isn't needed, and since the majority of Intel cpu's are 2-4 core, that's where the game manufacturers are gonna sink their money into in order to maximize sales. If games started to be written that really needed 8 cores to run well, AMD would have a field day, and 100% of the Intel users would be S.O.L.
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eden2012
March 28, 2014 8:45:10 PM
sunder25 said:
Thanks to the new ps4 and xbox one 8 core processors, i guarantee games in the future will use more than 4 cores at once.Even if now most games do not use more than 4 cores, i'm sure this will change.
So if you want extreme performance just get the i7 and be done with it.
Is the i7 better for overclocking?
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Fewshin
March 28, 2014 8:59:17 PM
eden2012
March 28, 2014 9:26:23 PM
Fewshin
March 28, 2014 9:28:52 PM
eden2012 said:
CTurbo said:
Yes but not by a whole lot. Will it be speedier within the is as well? Booting apps?
Yes! Definitely. I am running an i5 (Mac) and an i7 (PC). My PC is super fast. Starcraft 2 launches instantly and so does Diablo 3. With my mac it is a bit slower. Also my Mac is nearly 2 years old.
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Fewshin
March 28, 2014 9:33:56 PM
sunder25 said:
eden2012 said:
CTurbo said:
Yes but not by a whole lot. Will it be speedier within the is as well? Booting apps?
A good SSD will have the most impact when booting apps.
The i7 will be marginally better than the i5 when opening apps.
Where it will shine is data calculations, multitasking and such.
This seems more accurate than my post.
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Fewshin
March 28, 2014 9:35:49 PM
benchmarks were putting the 4770k at opening a very large app @10 seconds, the 4670k @11 seconds. Anything smaller than that app and you'd not be physically able to tell the difference. Its only during high calculation, data processing, multithreaded stuff like some 3d rendering apps and parts of autocad and other apps like that that the hyperthreading really comes into its own.
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Fewshin
March 28, 2014 9:46:02 PM
Karadjgne said:
benchmarks were putting the 4770k at opening a very large app @10 seconds, the 4670k @11 seconds. Anything smaller than that app and you'd not be physically able to tell the difference. Its only during high calculation, data processing, multithreaded stuff like some 3d rendering apps and parts of autocad and other apps like that that the hyperthreading really comes into its own.Go for the i7. It is more likely to be powerful for longer. Rumors are out about the next i core. When that comes out the i3 will most likely become obsolete and your i5 core will be shittier because of its weaker capabilities and more demanding games. That's just me though. (Earlier post if you missed it)
i7 is more future proof. This dude has a high budget and personally I am a go big or go home kind of guy. SO, I highly recommend a faster core, especially if that is an option.
Side note: Where is the guy we are trying to help. Honestly we aren't even trying to convince him anymore. Just each other.
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Fewshin said:
Karadjgne said:
benchmarks were putting the 4770k at opening a very large app @10 seconds, the 4670k @11 seconds. Anything smaller than that app and you'd not be physically able to tell the difference. Its only during high calculation, data processing, multithreaded stuff like some 3d rendering apps and parts of autocad and other apps like that that the hyperthreading really comes into its own.Go for the i7. It is more likely to be powerful for longer. Rumors are out about the next i core. When that comes out the i3 will most likely become obsolete and your i5 core will be shittier because of its weaker capabilities and more demanding games. That's just me though. (Earlier post if you missed it)
i7 is more future proof. This dude has a high budget and personally I am a go big or go home kind of guy. SO, I highly recommend a faster core, especially if that is an option.
Couldnt agree more.
The point of this whole thread is moot. There is no situation in which the i7 is worse than the i5
You can deal with heat since i will assume that you will get some serious cooling for your systemthatcostsasmuchasahouseinsomecountries.
Good luck.
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Fewshin
March 28, 2014 9:54:32 PM
sunder25 said:
Fewshin said:
Karadjgne said:
benchmarks were putting the 4770k at opening a very large app @10 seconds, the 4670k @11 seconds. Anything smaller than that app and you'd not be physically able to tell the difference. Its only during high calculation, data processing, multithreaded stuff like some 3d rendering apps and parts of autocad and other apps like that that the hyperthreading really comes into its own.Go for the i7. It is more likely to be powerful for longer. Rumors are out about the next i core. When that comes out the i3 will most likely become obsolete and your i5 core will be shittier because of its weaker capabilities and more demanding games. That's just me though. (Earlier post if you missed it)
i7 is more future proof. This dude has a high budget and personally I am a go big or go home kind of guy. SO, I highly recommend a faster core, especially if that is an option.
Couldnt agree more.
The point of this whole thread is moot. There is no situation in which the i7 is worse than the i5
You can deal with heat since i will assume that you will get some serious cooling for your systemthatcostsasmuchasahouseinsomecountries.
Good luck.
This post made my day. That is impressive considering it's almost midnight in my timezone. And honestly it is up to the dude who is actually buying the system. We have all of each other's opinions out he gets final pick. (I hope he picks me because I haven't gotten picked for a best solution yet).
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vaethshuxun
March 28, 2014 10:06:12 PM
eden2012
March 28, 2014 10:32:34 PM
eden2012
March 28, 2014 10:33:37 PM
Fewshin
March 29, 2014 6:17:51 AM
eden2012 said:
Okay everyone. I will probably go with the i7. This puts my build at a whopping 3.5 k USD.I know Arma is very CPU intense as well. And I've heard from multiple sources that Watch Dogs recommends 8 cores for max performance.
You are going for an AMD? I honestly wouldn't recommend it. They may look cool with their 8 cores and high GHZ but most are as strong as an i3 OVER CLOCKING. I would stick with the i7.
Edit: Also the i7 knows how to use its cores better and they are typically high class cores. It may seem expensive but it it will be worth it.
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eden2012
March 29, 2014 6:35:43 AM
Fewshin said:
eden2012 said:
Okay everyone. I will probably go with the i7. This puts my build at a whopping 3.5 k USD.I know Arma is very CPU intense as well. And I've heard from multiple sources that Watch Dogs recommends 8 cores for max performance.
You are going for an AMD? I honestly wouldn't recommend it. They may look cool with their 8 cores and high GHZ but most are as strong as an i3 OVER CLOCKING. I would stick with the i7.
Edit: Also the i7 knows how to use its cores better and they are typically high class cores. It may seem expensive but it it will be worth it.
No I'm going with the i7 and it basically has 8 cores....virtual cores that is.
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Fewshin
March 29, 2014 6:43:35 AM
eden2012
March 29, 2014 6:46:29 AM
Fewshin
March 29, 2014 10:35:22 AM
eden2012 said:
Fewshin said:
Glad I could help.Is the Kraken x60 any good for overclocking?
AMD are known for overclocking. But please refer to this article. http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-2085269/overclocki...
I made this post. You can see a few people's opinions.
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Fewshin
March 29, 2014 2:14:17 PM
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