New i5-4570 build, help needed

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Hi.
Help needed for choosing motherboard. Cooling questions too.

My planned build:
CPU: i5-4570
PSU: XFX 450w
Case: CM Silencio 352 (mATX case) http://www.coolermaster.com/case/mini-tower-silencio-series/silencio352/

SSD: 840 EVO 250gb
HDD: WD Caviar Blue 1TB

As you can see I haven't decided on MOBO
The CPU is non K, no O.C.
So how low can I go for the mobo? Is H81 chipset out of the question? The new System Builders Marathon had a build with H81 mobo? Are they just too low quality to be taken seriously?

Next up is B85M or H87M. I am goint mATX because it is a lot cheaper than ITX. Also can have 4 RAM slots even on B85.

Please help me choosing the mobo!

Cooling question: The Silencio 352 case has solid side panels. So if I want to get a GPU later, is this going to be a problem? No air coming from the side for the GPU.

I should get a workstation GPU (Quadro or FirePro). Haven't decided on that, need to do background work first. Low- to midend. So the thermals are not as crazy as for a full-blooded gaming GPU:
 
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Now I got it (I hope so). I've just compared the chipsets H81, H87 and Z87: http://ark.intel.com/compare/75016,75004,75013.
The most important differences I noted is that H81 won't make max usage of the SSD performance, because it do not have some features like rapid storage, smart responde and rapid start (you can check it all (and the description) in the link above).
And if you want to go low with such a good performance, Intel 3rd gen are as good as the 4th gen, there's more MB with socket compatibles (more models) and and you save more money.
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I have the page open all the time ;) Just need someone experienced to give some advice on the chipsets. The chipset comparison is in front of me, but user experience is always welcome. Don't want to have any USB 3.0 issues like some mobos had. Also don't want the mobo just go rotten in 2 years. Z87 is covered so well in all the articles, but the budget versions of socket 1150 mobos are not so well discussed.
 
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Well... All future proof MB are the expensives one. So, I suggest you this one MB: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-motherboard-maximusvigene.
But this one should do fine too: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-z87mextreme4, perhaps it don't have the same quality as a Asus.
 
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Thanks, but we are thinking in different directions here :) I want to know "Just how low can you go" I could just go and by the most expensive mobo on the market, but that is the easy way. I try to get best bang for the buck.

I can think of better use for my money. We just had a 100£ difference on some H81m and Maximus.

NOTE! There is no point futureproofing Haswell system anymore. Going, going, gone. New chips have been published already. You could get great performance in a VESA-mountable tiny box in june-july. I am not going to be an early adopter and pay the big bucks.

EDIT: Not "Published" but introduced
 
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Now I got it (I hope so). I've just compared the chipsets H81, H87 and Z87: http://ark.intel.com/compare/75016,75004,75013.
The most important differences I noted is that H81 won't make max usage of the SSD performance, because it do not have some features like rapid storage, smart responde and rapid start (you can check it all (and the description) in the link above).
And if you want to go low with such a good performance, Intel 3rd gen are as good as the 4th gen, there's more MB with socket compatibles (more models) and and you save more money.
 
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Oh, cannot compromise on SSD performance and booting times... That intel smart response tech is not needed actually. That was important when SSD was way more expensive. People had 32gb or 64gb ssd and SRT was using that. Nowadays with bigger SSDs this is not needed anymore. Need to check on those other 2 features.
 
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Okay I checked those Intel RST issues. B85 and H87 chipsets are fine for RST. Intel H81 does not support it. Not sure how much I need that tech, but going from H81 to H87 is not such a big price difference. Better have those intel buzzwords than not.