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March 30, 2014 12:04:20 PM

Hello everyone, as you can probably already tell I am a PC build noob. I would like to get a new gaming budget build PC for $750. I got sent this budget by my friend who has a really good PC and has a lot of knowledge about builds. I was just wondering if this mobo could support the 2 ram sticks and all the things listed in the build and if their is enough room for the case to fit everything. I also realized that their is no fan in the build so could somebody please recommend me a fan that this mobo/case could fit. I also have in mind I need to get a new windows 7 download but I already have that in mind. Thank you everyone who answers! :)  Here is the link to the build: http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx...

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March 30, 2014 12:09:36 PM

Ok. Do you want me to put together a build? because you don't need to spend $220 on your CPU. Is there any reason for the 2x8gb sticks?
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March 30, 2014 12:16:07 PM

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3j9PM
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3j9PM/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3j9PM/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4570 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($159.99 @ Micro Center)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($30.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus H87M-E Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($95.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Club 3D Radeon R9 270X 2GB Video Card ($199.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($44.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: XFX 750W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($79.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $691.92
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-03-30 15:15 EDT-0400)
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March 30, 2014 12:21:35 PM

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3ja1I
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3ja1I/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3ja1I/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($119.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($30.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI 970A-G46 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($67.50 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($239.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($84.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $748.39
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-03-30 15:21 EDT-0400)
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March 30, 2014 12:23:36 PM

if your going with a locked cpu use a h chipset mb with 8g of ram. unless your doing cad or high end editing then up your ram to 16g. if you have a local micro center there 4670k are onsale with mb combo. look into the asus-a mb. if you dont like small cases look as cosair r-300 for a little more money. the gpu i put in is faster then yours. also use a larger power supply so that you could add a faster gpu latter on if needed. the 270 is the replacment for the 7850 line. the 270x is the 7870. the 280 line is the 79xx line.
http://www.techspot.com/review/722-radeon-r9-270x-r7-26...
it an older review look at the frame rate per the 260x and the 270x you see in most games paying 50.00 more for the higher end gpu is worth it.
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March 30, 2014 12:49:21 PM

That case looks like it comes with a window,but oit doesn't when you look at the nzxt site.
The case comes with one 120mm fan,so if yo think that's enough it's fine,you could always add a second one or more.
You could go for the i5 4570,it makes quite a differenc in price,not in performance.
You don't need 16gb's of ram,just buy 8gb's=2x4gb

I took a look and made a build,took prices from newegg seeing that you were looking there,

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4570 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock B85 Killer ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: A-Data XPG V1.0 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($63.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($85.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 270 2GB Video Card ($179.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Cooler Master R4-L2S-122B-GP 39.8 CFM 120mm Fans ($5.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $765.90
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-03-30 15:37 EDT-0400)

In your build no hdd.in this one a ssd+a hdd.You could let the ssd go for a still better gpu

In mine a already better gpu,a slightly lesser cpu,but not worth mentioning.

I took your choice of case and added a two pack of 120mm fans,they are fnas with leds though (blue).

This power supply should be good enough for this build,but when upgrading to something more power hungry might a higher wattage one be better like the one you already chose.Again,if you loose the ssd money is free to upgrade this build.

Like i talked about, a different build with no ssd,but a better gpu and psu,

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4570 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock B85 Killer ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: A-Data XPG V1.0 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($63.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($239.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 600W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($44.99 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Cooler Master R4-L2S-122B-GP 39.8 CFM 120mm Fans ($5.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $764.92
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-03-30 15:46 EDT-0400)

About the same price,no ssd,but a gtx 760 and the corsair 600watt cx modular psu.

In neither build a dvd player or windows,but wasn't in you list too.
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March 30, 2014 1:22:54 PM

Vic 40 said:
That case looks like it comes with a window,but oit doesn't when you look at the nzxt site.
The case comes with one 120mm fan,so if yo think that's enough it's fine,you could always add a second one or more.
You could go for the i5 4570,it makes quite a differenc in price,not in performance.
You don't need 16gb's of ram,just buy 8gb's=2x4gb

I took a look and made a build,took prices from newegg seeing that you were looking there,

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4570 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock B85 Killer ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: A-Data XPG V1.0 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($63.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($85.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 270 2GB Video Card ($179.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Cooler Master R4-L2S-122B-GP 39.8 CFM 120mm Fans ($5.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $765.90
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-03-30 15:37 EDT-0400)

In your build no hdd.in this one a ssd+a hdd.You could let the ssd go for a still better gpu

In mine a already better gpu,a slightly lesser cpu,but not worth mentioning.

I took your choice of case and added a two pack of 120mm fans,they are fnas with leds though (blue).

This power supply should be good enough for this build,but when upgrading to something more power hungry might a higher wattage one be better like the one you already chose.Again,if you loose the ssd money is free to upgrade this build.

Like i talked about, a different build with no ssd,but a better gpu and psu,

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4570 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock B85 Killer ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: A-Data XPG V1.0 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($63.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($239.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 600W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($44.99 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Cooler Master R4-L2S-122B-GP 39.8 CFM 120mm Fans ($5.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $764.92
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-03-30 15:46 EDT-0400)

About the same price,no ssd,but a gtx 760 and the corsair 600watt cx modular psu.

In neither build a dvd player or windows,but wasn't in you list too.

Thank you so much! You really went into detail about what was wrong with mine and why yours was a more superior choice. Just another question if you do not mind, for the cpu, it says (overridden) what does that mean?
Just want to thank you once again and I will most likely be getting that 2nd build you made. Also, if you were to upgrade something to make this build be around a total of 800ish dollars, what would you upgrade?
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March 30, 2014 2:36:47 PM

"Overridden" means it was probably cheaper at another site,but because you were looking at newegg did i change the seller to newegg.If you don't mind looking at other shops might the buld get cheaper.

:lol:  I was reading my post back and all those typos... :pfff: 

Looked at $800 and saw that i put a 2tb hdd in,changed that to a 1tb hdd and the possibility to overclock,

PCPartPicker part list

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Zalman CNPS10X Performa CPU Cooler ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Pro4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($239.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 600W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($44.99 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Cooler Master R4-L2S-122B-GP 39.8 CFM 120mm Fans ($5.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $800.91
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-03-30 17:33 EDT-0400)

Overclocking is really something for the future,so when the system is gonna need some extra speed you could go for it.You could wait with the cooler untill that point in time,but for $25 is this one a very good cooler.It comes with a resistor cable to lower the max, fanspeed and thus lower the decibels.

There comes probably some paste with the cooler,but it can't hurt to get some extra just in case,
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/prolimatech-thermal-paste-...
or
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/arctic-cooling-thermal-pas...
a difference in price,but also the amount in the syringe.
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March 30, 2014 5:10:00 PM

Vic 40 said:
"Overridden" means it was probably cheaper at another site,but because you were looking at newegg did i change the seller to newegg.If you don't mind looking at other shops might the buld get cheaper.

:lol:  I was reading my post back and all those typos... :pfff: 

Looked at $800 and saw that i put a 2tb hdd in,changed that to a 1tb hdd and the possibility to overclock,

PCPartPicker part list

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Zalman CNPS10X Performa CPU Cooler ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Pro4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($239.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 600W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($44.99 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Cooler Master R4-L2S-122B-GP 39.8 CFM 120mm Fans ($5.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $800.91
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-03-30 17:33 EDT-0400)

Overclocking is really something for the future,so when the system is gonna need some extra speed you could go for it.You could wait with the cooler untill that point in time,but for $25 is this one a very good cooler.It comes with a resistor cable to lower the max, fanspeed and thus lower the decibels.

There comes probably some paste with the cooler,but it can't hurt to get some extra just in case,
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/prolimatech-thermal-paste-...
or
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/arctic-cooling-thermal-pas...
a difference in price,but also the amount in the syringe.


Thank you that is now my new priority build and I also changed some of the Overridden items on the build, thanks! On the compatibility notes, it says two things.
---ASRock Z87 Pro4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard has onboard USB 3.0 headers, but the NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case does not have front panel USB 3.0 ports. ---
---In order to fit, the MSI GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card may require removing drive bays from the NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case. The case only supports video cards up to 230mm in length without removing drive bays, while the video card is 260mm long.---
Would you mind helping me find a case that supports the motherboard and also should I remove driving bays or just get a new case in general that solves both of these issues? Cheers.
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March 31, 2014 12:45:36 AM

Lorenzo13335 said:
Vic 40 said:
"Overridden" means it was probably cheaper at another site,but because you were looking at newegg did i change the seller to newegg.If you don't mind looking at other shops might the buld get cheaper.

:lol:  I was reading my post back and all those typos... :pfff: 

Looked at $800 and saw that i put a 2tb hdd in,changed that to a 1tb hdd and the possibility to overclock,

PCPartPicker part list
If you have enough to spend a bit more I recommend the Corsair 200R and the CoolerMaster Storm Enforcer

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Zalman CNPS10X Performa CPU Cooler ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Pro4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($239.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 600W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($44.99 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Cooler Master R4-L2S-122B-GP 39.8 CFM 120mm Fans ($5.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $800.91
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-03-30 17:33 EDT-0400)

Overclocking is really something for the future,so when the system is gonna need some extra speed you could go for it.You could wait with the cooler untill that point in time,but for $25 is this one a very good cooler.It comes with a resistor cable to lower the max, fanspeed and thus lower the decibels.

There comes probably some paste with the cooler,but it can't hurt to get some extra just in case,
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/prolimatech-thermal-paste-...
or
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/arctic-cooling-thermal-pas...
a difference in price,but also the amount in the syringe.


Thank you that is now my new priority build and I also changed some of the Overridden items on the build, thanks! On the compatibility notes, it says two things.
---ASRock Z87 Pro4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard has onboard USB 3.0 headers, but the NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case does not have front panel USB 3.0 ports. ---
---In order to fit, the MSI GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card may require removing drive bays from the NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case. The case only supports video cards up to 230mm in length without removing drive bays, while the video card is 260mm long.---
Would you mind helping me find a case that supports the motherboard and also should I remove driving bays or just get a new case in general that solves both of these issues? Cheers.


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March 31, 2014 1:41:23 AM

Lorenzo13335 said:

On the compatibility notes, it says two things.
---ASRock Z87 Pro4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard has onboard USB 3.0 headers, but the NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case does not have front panel USB 3.0 ports. ---

That doesn't mean anything,just that you don't have usb 3.0 ports at the front.If you want a case that has those let me know.
And looked anyway,more expensive though.
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/antec-case-gx500
although no extra fans would be needed so that's $6 saved from this list.It comes with three 120mm fans already.


Lorenzo13335 said:

---In order to fit, the MSI GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card may require removing drive bays from the NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case. The case only supports video cards up to 230mm in length without removing drive bays, while the video card is 260mm long.---
.

On the NZXT site it says the following,


Quote:
VGA Clearance Maximum 230mm w/ hard drive, 330mm w/o hard drive

This means that when you put that card in you can't put a hdd on the same hight in the case.if you put the hdd on a different hight=at the top or bottom in the rack,will the card fit just fine.
For the site,
http://www.nzxt.com/product/detail/105-source-210-case
look under specs->Clearance.
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March 31, 2014 8:35:25 PM

Vic 40 said:
Lorenzo13335 said:

On the compatibility notes, it says two things.
---ASRock Z87 Pro4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard has onboard USB 3.0 headers, but the NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case does not have front panel USB 3.0 ports. ---

That doesn't mean anything,just that you don't have usb 3.0 ports at the front.If you want a case that has those let me know.
And looked anyway,more expensive though.
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/antec-case-gx500
although no extra fans would be needed so that's $6 saved from this list.It comes with three 120mm fans already.


Lorenzo13335 said:

---In order to fit, the MSI GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card may require removing drive bays from the NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case. The case only supports video cards up to 230mm in length without removing drive bays, while the video card is 260mm long.---
.

On the NZXT site it says the following,


Quote:
VGA Clearance Maximum 230mm w/ hard drive, 330mm w/o hard drive

This means that when you put that card in you can't put a hdd on the same hight in the case.if you put the hdd on a different hight=at the top or bottom in the rack,will the card fit just fine.
For the site,
http://www.nzxt.com/product/detail/105-source-210-case
look under specs->Clearance.

Thanks a lot man I will most likely be getting this rig around late may or something after I finish my school work but there is just one more compatibility issue and it is
---Antec GX500 ATX Mid Tower Case and Zalman CNPS10X Performa CPU Cooler height clearance could not be verified. -----
Im pretty sure that this doesn't matter, correct? Just want to thank you so much for all the help.
Here is the final build link just to make sure everything is correct:
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/Lorenzo13335/saved/4er4
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April 1, 2014 1:19:17 PM

The performa will go in the gx500,it's a cooler of "only" 154mm high,already about 5mm less high than most tower coolers.

In the next review,
http://www.google.nl/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=we...
are they using the next cooler "Noctua NH-U14S" which is 165mm high.

Edit:

didn't take a look at your build,but the zalman cooler has become quite expensive with a price of $35.If you want a nice cooler for not to much the next,
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/zalman-cpu-cooler-cnps10xo...
or
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-cpu-cooler-r...
or for more and better
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/xigmatek-cpu-cooler-primes...
or a nice aio watecooler,
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-cpu-cooler-h60cw90...
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