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First Time Build - Looking for Video Card & Ensuring Parts Work [Home & Gaming]

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March 30, 2014 12:42:12 PM

I am building a desktop this summer (May/June) for the first time so that I can have a decently powerful Windows machine alongside my MacBook, and so that I have some experience with the hardware aspect of computers (Computer Science major!). I have selected a barebones kit from TigerDirect that seems to fit the basics of my needs:

TigerDirect Barbones Kit

Includes:
Intel Core i5-4670K Processor
MSI Z87-G41 PC MATE Intel Z87 Motherboard
Patriot Viper Xtreme 8GB Desktop Memory Module
Ultra LSP Series V2 550-Watt Power Supply
ULTRA Etorque Mid-Tower ATX Gaming Case

To my knowledge, this is about all that I need to have a functioning computer that isn't too terribly bad. My price range is between $500 and $600 but I may stretch up to $700. This is also an exercise in how good of a computer can I make with a restricted budget (I'm a college student, here!). So my first question is: am I correct in assuming this is all that I need to have a functioning computer, sans a hard drive?

So from here, I would like to get a video card to up the ante for gaming. I don't do any hardcore gaming like Diablo, WoW, Battlefield, etc., but I would like the graphics capability if I were to so choose to play later on down the road. What kind of graphics cards would you guys recommend?

I also want a wireless card so that I don't always have to be jacked-in. My room is very far from our router and modem so ethernet is out of the question. I was looking at this Wireless card:

Intel 7260HMWDTX1 Dual Band Wireless-AC 7260 PCIe plus Bluetooth 4.0 AC1200

since it supports AC and also has Bluetooth. The major issue I've though of is having enough power from the power supply to allow the video and wireless card to work. Many guides always have triple emphasis on MAKE SURE YOUR POWER SUPPLY CAN SUPPLY THE JUICE and it's something I'm very worried with (and very uninformed about).

I have my own mouse and keyboard so that is not an issue. I also get free access for Win7 and 8 through my University so that is also not an issue. What recommendations do you guys have to go from here? Any and all help would be greatly appreciated since I am VERY new at this. Thanks!
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March 30, 2014 1:19:18 PM

For low budget amd is the way to go with sexy blue gaming pc. and should play games at 1080p ultra.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor ($139.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($30.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-D3P ATX AM3+/AM3 Motherboard ($89.97 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB Video Card ($165.38 @ Newegg)
Case: Enermax ECA3280A-BL ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($15.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $692.25
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-03-30 16:19 EDT-0400)
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March 30, 2014 2:10:52 PM




I specified in the text that I had knew I needed an HD, but I'm comfortable selecting my own. It was easy to miss if you didn't read every word of the post. Thanks for being aware, though! I sure would have had a foot-in-mouth experience if I would've forgotten a hard drive.

As for the graphics cards, those are a little pricey for me. What exactly do I want to look for in a video card? What type of specifications? Or is that the general price that I would pay for anything particularly useful?

Also, noticing the fans on the video cards, that leads to me ask. Is the cooling sufficient in the barebones kit? It states that it comes with 2 125(I think)mm cooling fans. Would that be enough or will I need another cooling system for the CPU? That was another big issue that slipped my mind whilst creating my post. I know some cooling systems can be crazy pricey.
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March 30, 2014 2:16:30 PM

If those are 125 mm then they are enough, i can't get to open tiger direct website so i can't read the specs posted there exactly.
See the problem is that your processor is too good. If I tell you a graphic card that is too low then the processor will be the bottleneck means the processor will not reach it's full potential the while the graphic card will be stuck at 100% load all the time.
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March 30, 2014 2:29:33 PM

goku1234567890 said:
If those are 125 mm then they are enough, i can't get to open tiger direct website so i can't read the specs posted there exactly.
See the problem is that your processor is too good. If I tell you a graphic card that is too low then the processor will be the bottleneck means the processor will not reach it's full potential the while the graphic card will be stuck at 100% load all the time.


I'm not sure how cooling works inside, but these specs come from the tiger direct. Under the processor specs, it mentions that the processor works with the 84 watt fan. The power supply comes with a 135mm cooling fan. The casing has 3 fan ports each holding 120 or 140mm fans. There is a port on the top, and two on the sides. Included in the kit are 2, 120mm fans (with blue LED). Does that sound reasonable? Should I go ahead and try to fill that third space as well?

Back to the pro/VC, correct me if I am wrong, but the processor has integrated graphics (Intel HD 4600, I believe) that handles the exact same thing that a video card does, correct? Adding a video card into a PCI slot would basically boost my graphics capability? Instead of having 1 man working, I would have 2 men working on the graphics. Or would the PCI video card serve a different purpose? If you notice, I have 0 knowledge about video cards except that they process graphics information. And we don't want to have a video card that is less powerful than the processor because that would essentially defeat the purpose of the VC, right? Sorry for being so noobish, but the purpose of the project is to learn. I'm very, very grateful that you're taking your time to help me. I really appreciate it!!!
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March 31, 2014 11:19:17 AM

goku1234567890 said:
You can only go as low as this price below this card will start bottle nacking from slightly to full:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

By the way if you can afford that 10$ get the card in the second link.


I was analyzing the graphics cards that you have shown me and came across a question. Could you point out why the EVGA GeForce 750Ti is better than the Sapphire Radeon R7 260X? I was looking through some of the numbers, and it seemed like the Sapphire had some better specs. However, like I said, I am no expert in Graphics Cards. I'm simply curious since the GeForce is significantly higher priced to be seemingly worse, to an untrained eye. Thanks! I think this will be last question! You will certainly be marked as solution for this thread.
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March 31, 2014 1:06:28 PM

nalexander50 said:
goku1234567890 said:
You can only go as low as this price below this card will start bottle nacking from slightly to full:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

By the way if you can afford that 10$ get the card in the second link.


I was analyzing the graphics cards that you have shown me and came across a question. Could you point out why the EVGA GeForce 750Ti is better than the Sapphire Radeon R7 260X? I was looking through some of the numbers, and it seemed like the Sapphire had some better specs. However, like I said, I am no expert in Graphics Cards. I'm simply curious since the GeForce is significantly higher priced to be seemingly worse, to an untrained eye. Thanks! I think this will be last question! You will certainly be marked as solution for this thread.

You can see this link for comparison:http://www.game-debate.com/gpu/index.php?gid=2072&gid2=...
Read what is written on the right hand site. Look as performance wise both are almost equal. Both the cards have different compatibility. Like amd cards are best performed on amd motherboards and asus motherboards on the other hand nvidia best performs on intel boards. There is one advantage in r9 260x that it has mantle technology that will help your card perform better than the nvidia one in some games (only those games which have mantle technology supported). For example there are total of only 2 games right now which have mantle support and those are Watch Dogs and Thief 2014. Otherwise both are almost equal so if you want the AMD one go for it it is cheap and consumes less power too.
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