Using onboard graphics along with 1 graphics card

pmc8888 · Mar 31, 2014

I would like to have the capability to run 3 lcd 1440x900 20" monitors via the motherboard/cpu graphics and 1 to 3 of the same lcd monitors via a separate low profile graphics card rated for 400w or less power supply. Prefer a Gigabyte card, and would like some recommendations on which to consider. System as follows:

Gigabyte GA-Z87MX-D3H
Kingston Hyper X 8GB
Intel i7-4770K Haswell socket 1150
Cooler Master Elite 400w Power Supply

Thanks !!

goku1234567890 · Mar 31, 2014

Hello, how are you? First of all you can't run on-board graphic card and the the pci-e graphic card at the same time. You can run 3 to 4 monitors on a graphic card. I seriously recommend this card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125502

drtweak · Mar 31, 2014

I've read of ways that you can do this but I have never gotten it to work.

As Goku said most video cards these days can support up to 3 Video cards. You probably want at least a 3GB video card possible more depending on what you are doing. Also to make the 3rd monitor work you need to use either need to use Two DVI and a Display Port or DVI, HDMI and DP.

BUT the real trick is you need to make sure you get an ACTIVE Display port to DVI/HDMI adapter UNLESS those monitors have a Display Port connection on them then you don't need it.

goku1234567890 · Mar 31, 2014

Yeah i also heard that you can run on-board and graphic card at the same time but only heard it never seen it. 3 GB is not totally necessary 1 GB will also work if you have a powerful graphic card or 2 GB is enough if you have a mid-level graphic card.

pmc8888 · Mar 31, 2014

goku1234567890 :

Hi and thanks for the response. With Win 7 (I'm running Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit) you can run onboard graphics along with a graphics card on the Z87 chipset and 4th Gen Haswell cpu with the proper bois configuration. I am just not sure of which card may be better to use. It is for a work environment (no games) running standard non-demanding applications and charts. Want a low profile and passive pcie 3.0 or 2.0 card if possible. Thanks !!

goku1234567890 · Mar 31, 2014

pmc8888 :

Thanks for giving prove

. Is your pc a tower or a desktop. Can you tell me the model of your casing? See the problem is that if i recommend you a simple budget card then it is going to be bottle neck. I mean the graphic card will always remain at the 100% load and your processor at 50%, 40% or 60% depending upon what you are doing because your processor is good and the card have to be on par with the processor.

pmc8888 · Mar 31, 2014

goku1234567890 :

pmc8888 :

Thanks for giving prove

. Is your pc a tower or a desktop. Can you tell me the model of your casing? See the problem is that if i recommend you a simple budget card then it is going to be bottle neck. I mean the graphic card will always remain at the 100% load and your processor at 50%, 40% or 60% depending upon what you are doing because your processor is good and the card have to be on par with the processor.

Great.....!! My case is mATX, and that's the reason for the need of a low profile card. I have looked at the Gigabyte GeForce 610 series with 1Gb and 2Gb DDR3 as well as the Nvida NVS 310 with 512 Mb, Vision Tek Radeon 5450 with 1 GB DDR3, and Gigabyte 210 with 1 GB DDR3. What are your thoughts and possible suggestions? Thanks !!

goku1234567890 · Apr 1, 2014

OK first of all those cards are all too simple, basic and considered entry level cards. At least try GT 630 or GT 640 in nvidia or if you want a amd card at least try HD 6670.

drtweak · Apr 1, 2014

Also half of those cards don't support more than 2 montors. You need to read up and see which one support 3 monitors. Most of the AMD video card do support 3 monitors. For the Nvidia area you have to choose the higher end side of the 500+ series.

drtweak · Apr 1, 2014

OR you will just have to get Two low end video cards if you have the space for it.

pmc8888 · Apr 2, 2014

drtweak :

Hi drtweak and thanks for your comments.....In my original post I stated "and 1 to 3 of the same lcd monitors via a separate low profile graphics card rated for 400w or less power supply". I appreciate your comments on the AMD cards. My decision is the AMD FirePro 2270 professional graphics card. This will allow me 2 monitors via DVI output to the DVI monitors. Additionally I will run 2 additional monitors via the motherboard (DVI and HDMI outputs). As I stated I do not need the cards for games, but rather financial charting and standard business applications. Your additional comments are welcome regarding my decision !!

drtweak · Apr 3, 2014

You can try that. Again as far as me and also goku1234567890 said even though they say there is a way to use onboard and addon graphics we have yet to gotten it to work. So if that doesn't work then you will either need to get a single video card capable of more than 2 monitors OR you will need another video card to run the other 1-2 monitors.

Now again I don't know if you have accomplished this or not but there are various reports of people running descrete with intergraded and other saying you can't do it. I come across a LOT of New and Used Dells with my work being a Dell Reseller and all and I have tired to do what they ask and I can never get it to work. I might just be a Dell thing as I have not tried this on a Non Dell PC as of yet. But if you get it to work then any low profile video card that doesn't require more than 75 watts will work without issue. But if you can't get the onboard to work you will need to get a second video card.

goku1234567890 · Apr 4, 2014

See drtweak if it has a motherboard which doesn't have 2 pci-e slots he is vain. May i simply suggest buy a low profile hd 7750 or a simple budget r7 250 low profile card, they both will run like a charm and are great for their money too. And can support upto 3 monitors.

pmc8888 · Apr 10, 2014

OK, I very much appreciate all the comments, BUT.....there is no magic involved in using the 4th Gen Intel onboard CPU graphics with an added graphics card. Just make sure the bios is set up properly (enable onboard graphics). As I stated previously, I decided on the AMD Firepro 2270 simply because I wanted 4 or 5 monitors, a good card (the Firepro 2270 is designed for my type of financial charting applications) and something inexpensive (got a new card in sealed box $40 ebay). The build is complete, up and running with 5 monitors (3 onboard & 2 on one Firepro 2270) with no setup issues or problems. As follows:

Motherboard: GA-Z87MX-D3H (VGA, DVI, HDMI, and Displayport)
CPU: i7-4770K Haswell socket 1150
Ram: 8 GB Kingston HyperX
1 AMD Firepro 2270 graphics (2 DVI)
5 HP 2072a Monitors
CoolerMaster 400w supply
Windows Ultimate 64 bit
Samsung 840EVO for os
WD Black 7200 rpm 500GB for data
Rosewill micro tower mATX FBM-01
LG M-Disc DVD

Nothing special, cheap to build, and best of all, hassle free.

drtweak · Apr 10, 2014

For the onboard did the 3rd had to be Display Port? Just woundering because again out of the many dell PC's I've setup and I've followed every instruction i could fine (I'm now assuming is a dell thing because in the past it wasn't possible period to do onboard and add-in card) I've never been able to get onboard and addin to work with each other. I am also still running a Core 2 Quad with no onboard video but even if i did i don't think those older generations won't work either way. But yea It seems as if me and Goko have been well. Shown XD

urmamasllama · Apr 10, 2014

Thank you OP I had been looking forever too see if you could run onboard and dedicated for multi monitor my needs are fairly similar tonyours except that I needed it on a gaming rig if you're still looking a I understand that its an Matx board but if your case has a second expansion bracket look at a 750 in fact some of them only take one bracket On the outside of the casehowever the fan does need the space of a second bracket

pmc8888 · Apr 10, 2014

drtweak :

Hi drtweak.....I have connected onboard as follows: 1 via vga (didn't like this but I don't have a Displayport monitor), 1 via DVI and, 1 via HDMI. The 4th Gen Intel CPU's will support upto a MAX of 3 monitors. My MB has a total of 4 connections, but only 3 (any 3) will drive a monitor due to cpu limitations. I then have 2 DVI connections via the AMD Firepro card.

I did research this quite a bit over the last few months, and did see some conflicts reported with certain Dell products, but Dell apparently put out a fix. In-so-far as the older generation CPU's with graphics on the MB only (as in NOT in cpu), you are pi__ing up a rope. No Go in my experience (Gigabyte boards). Thanks !!

drtweak · Apr 10, 2014

Hmmm ok yea see all the 3+ monitor setups I've done were with AMD cards and you need to use Display Port for every monitor past the 3rd one. I will have to experiment when i get some other dells in on this.

Thanks for the info!

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