How to solve cause of crash?

IonHaq

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Hello, tom's HARDWARE world.

Today I completed a small gaming rig for my little brother so I can get him STEAM games for much, much cheaper than Xbox games and for the fact that at the same price of a nex Xbox One I could build him a gaming computer that does about the same amount of work.

I'm 21 (so still a little wet behind the ears/green horn/rookie) and I've been building for just over 4 years now and I really haven't seen anything like this behind three specific reasons. But I'm almost certain that these aren't the reasons to the crashes. Before going further allow me to explain to you the exact situations and paths to these crashes.

Perfect POST with the ability to enter BIOS.
Windows Completely boots and I am free to do essentially any processing based task (Computing, fetching and receiving data, execution of programs, etc.) I can run monitoring programs and I can stress the living sh*t out of my processor on Prime 95 with no problems and very little heat (maximum recorded 63C on prime 95 and normally it sits at I would say a safe average of 36C, idle, no prime 95.) Also I should point out that I have tested Youtube on 1080p running a 8 minute CGI short at, again, 1080p with absolutely no problems.
I can leave the system on and idling and it has been on for the last 3 hours while I use my own computer to attempt to resolve this problem.
The crashes ONLY OCCUR when and if I attempt to use the card to render, or do anything beyond out putting just frames to the monitor. (Ex. Run a game to the point of 3D rendering, run Furmark, Bench tests, GPU stressing.)

This all leads me to believe that my GPU, upon taking any stress AT ALL, causes the crashes.
The three reasons that I can think of that would cause this are:

1) The power supply unit is starving the GPU and CPU of energy resource thus causing either a flux of power to the motherboard that instantly shuts the system off... Or at the time of both the CPU and GPU consuming their relative required energies that it splits the power and both are not receiving enough power due to the fact that they are fighting for energy resource.

2) My graphics cards drivers are "too new" for the selected card, are "too old", or are simply broken.

3) Because of the fact that the GPU was used Daily, steadily for 1 full year. And the fact that it has been sitting in storage with absolutely no use at all for the last 4 months. The GPU has simply deteriorated over time and storage and is glitching because of strictly hardware deficiencies like possible worn out PCI pinns, possible burst capacitors, possible dysfunction with the cooling block on the PCB of the card, etc.

I understand that these are all possibilities and that I should try and see if these are causes before asking. But I simply want to hear from a community of people what they think, if they agree with any specific Idea of mine, or if they know exactly why this may be happening. Thank you all SO MUCH for your time and help in advance.



SYSTEM SPECS OF CRASHING COMPUTER:
FX-4100 (Base - No OC)
MSI GTX 560 Ti OC Twin Frozr ii 2Gb special edition
Corsair Value Select 2x8Gb @ 1333
Seagate Barracuda 7200 RPM
GA-LMT78-SP2
Eagle Tech Voltas 500W

 
Solution
Could also be the PSU. You may just be on the cusp of the power suppy dropping out and adding a GPU load causes it to fail.

There is two ways to test. The best would be to try a more powerful PSU in the system in question. The next best would be to try the graphics card in another system under the same test conditions.

If it works with a different PSU in the system in question, troubleshooting done.

If the card fails in another system in the same manner as in the first, then it's most likely the card. If it works, it could be the power supply.

Obviously trying with another supply would give you a definite answer as to whether or not its the PSU.
Could also be the PSU. You may just be on the cusp of the power suppy dropping out and adding a GPU load causes it to fail.

There is two ways to test. The best would be to try a more powerful PSU in the system in question. The next best would be to try the graphics card in another system under the same test conditions.

If it works with a different PSU in the system in question, troubleshooting done.

If the card fails in another system in the same manner as in the first, then it's most likely the card. If it works, it could be the power supply.

Obviously trying with another supply would give you a definite answer as to whether or not its the PSU.
 
Solution

Markkk

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If you Cannot test the GFX card in another PC

Install All the DX10/11 Drivers
Make sure the power cables are plugged into the GFX card and the 4 Pin Is also attached to the MB (MB has 24pin/4pin)

Has you installed the Drivers Directly from Nvidia?
 

IonHaq

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Thanks allot, I tested it on another system and the GPU was just dandy. I decided to swallow my pride and admit that; I did in fact, choose the wrong power supply for this build and should have went with no less than 600w. Tested on my EVGA NEX750 modular and everything was fine on the same system.