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Hi all!
So I'm planning to make new build based around a Haswell CPU and either a GTX 760 or 770.

For the case, I wanted to get a case that had the window on the right (*looking from the front), which I have learned to call B-ATX (,correct me if I'm wrong.) What are some merits and demerits of B-ATX and what do you recommend?

Also, I already have a PC that is based on the i5-3570k. I've heard that Haswell isn't very OC friendly. Would it make any sense to get an aftermarket cooler? and for what purpose would I get one for?

Thanks, Thomas.
 
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As I said much earlier . The silverstone TJ 08e
http://www.silverstonetek.com/product.php?pid=303

the board is flipped and fitted upside down from the right side of the case .
Yes you do have to go m-ATX but most people never use even 4 expansion slots let alone 7 .

The window can be cut by you . There are plenty of online tutorials

The suggestion that BTX form factor computers were a failure because they ran hot is also incorrect . BTX moves the very hot processor lower and closer to the front fans and IMPROVES processor cooling . The Dells mentioned run extremely quietly with a single case fan pushing air over the cpu cooler . I know a few that are still running perfectly even though they are 6-7 years old
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Have you tried to find a B-ATX motherboard? The idea is old and dates from pentium 4 days when processors , especially the intels , ran very hot . I havent seen any B-ATX boards recently but I havent looked too hard for them so they may still exist

Or you could use a Silverstone TJ 08e . Its a micro ATX case that flips the board upside down and mounts it from the right side . Micro ATX only , and you might have to cut your own window . Cooling is excellent
 
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ATX is a motherboard standard, Standard ATX, Micro ATX and Mini ITX. I believe B-ATX was mounted on the left side, instead of the right side. It's manufacture specific, I doubt you'll find any.
As in HP made a few, or Dell made a few. Nothing that was consumer grade.

I currently have the HAF 932 Black Edition, which has a side Window. I don't think they sell it any longer.

Something like the HAF X has the Window and the side fan
http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=6_111&item_id=031796
 
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They haven't used the BTX standard since the days of the early Pentium D's - you won't find any modern hardware using that form factor anymore. They weren't the best design... things heated up very quickly and they were generally left to the OEM market for prebuilt systems with system-specific cooling hardware. Let's just say that there's good reason behind BTX not replacing the much older and more proven ATX layout. I remember that these board were used specifically in the Dell Dimension E5xx series... I can honestly say that those were the worst prebuilt systems that anyone has ever put out on the market - I can't count the number of dead motherboards I've been asked to work on, and I've never seen a system consistently killing so many CPUs, either. I think it was because of heat buildup and insufficient cooling.


I'd honestly just keep that i5 at its stock clock, but if you do want to overclock, you will need an aftermarket cooler. It's your call whether or not you think the extra 1-2% performance would be worth paying $30+ for a replacement cooler.
 
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Wow! That Black Edition one looks pretty cool. With the exception of that, I don't really like HAFs, sorry :(.

 
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I'm sorry guys, I didn't realize B-ATX was an actual motherboard size. I meant inverted ATX (as in, a case that fits ATX, and is built for ATX, but you can change components from the right side of the computer.)
 
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Yah, it's BTX. It's an inverted Motherboard, but they do not manufacture them any longer. It was a niche for branded workstations.

All my towers are cooler master, I haven't had any issues with them. I have an Elite 120, and Elite 343 and the HAF 932. Good bang for the buck.
 
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You could go to the Extreme, no idea what the temps in this would be like

http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=6_111&item_id=036371
 
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Looks cool but a little too showy. I would like something with a minimal design, sorta like a Fractal Design Define R4. Not quite minimal, but as a guide, that is what I'm looking for. Something like the Silverstone FT04 would be a good example.

 
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Hah, I see. Well, the only company that comes to mind is SilverStone, but those aren't really 'inverted' per say... they offer some of the stranger motherboard mounting layouts you'll see - I know my favorite is the Fortress series with the I/O pointed upward, which means all of your exhaust is pointed out the top of the case. Problem is that they can get pretty expensive, and I'm not sure of any that do exactly what you're looking for and flip the case layout.
EDIT: Heh, you beat me to it with the above post.

I'll keep my eyes open, though, and let you know if I run into anything. :)
 
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Alright, thanks man!

I'll be sure to give best solution to whoever gives the best recommendation!

 
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As I said much earlier . The silverstone TJ 08e
http://www.silverstonetek.com/product.php?pid=303

the board is flipped and fitted upside down from the right side of the case .
Yes you do have to go m-ATX but most people never use even 4 expansion slots let alone 7 .

The window can be cut by you . There are plenty of online tutorials

The suggestion that BTX form factor computers were a failure because they ran hot is also incorrect . BTX moves the very hot processor lower and closer to the front fans and IMPROVES processor cooling . The Dells mentioned run extremely quietly with a single case fan pushing air over the cpu cooler . I know a few that are still running perfectly even though they are 6-7 years old
 
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