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R9 270 vs R9 270X vs GTX 760- Best Performance for Value

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April 4, 2014 3:00:35 AM

Hello,
I am building my first computer and am going for about a 600-650 dollar build. However, I cannot decide on which GPU to get. I have heard from many that the R9 270 is basically the same performance as an R9 270X, just cheaper. However, the price difference between the two cards at this point in time has me wondering. Also, the GTX 760, in my understanding, is a superior card to both the 270 and 270X, but the reference model is about $80 more than the MSI 2gb gaming edition of the R9 270X I am looking at costs ($180). Besides that, I see that most of the R9 270X's are going for around the same price as the 760, about $260. I am not sure if this pricing on the 270X is due to bitcoins and such or if the card truly is a better performer. Basically, my main question is, are the R9 270X and GTX 760 truly worth the price gap between them and the 270? Also, is the GTX 760 considered a much more powerful card and does it, being an Nvidia card, bring more to the table than the AMD card do themselves? Beyond this, which card manufacturerfor each of the cards would be best. I find myself leaning towards MSI and their gaming edition being a great deal for added performance, but am not 100% sure about that either. Thanks for help from anyone who contributes and I will link the cards that I am currently looking at below as well as leave my expected parts for my build.

MSI R9 270 2GB Gaming: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00GMGGZQE/?tag=pcpapi-20
MSI R9 270X 2GB Gaming: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00FR6XP6I/?tag=pcpapi-20
MSI N760 TF 2GD5/OC (GTX 760): http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00DIH8OW8/?tag=pcpapi-20

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core
Motherboard: Asus M5A97 LE R2.0
Memory: G.Skill F3-14900CL9D-8GBXL (2x4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive-or-Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (my next online question)
Video Card: TBD
Case: Corsair Carbide Series 300R Windowed ATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply
Some of the parts in my build may change slightly, but this is my basic structure
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April 4, 2014 3:07:12 AM

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April 4, 2014 3:12:32 AM

SamoanSavage824 said:
Hello,
I am building my first computer and am going for about a 700-750 dollar build. However, I cannot decide on which GPU to get. I have heard from many that the R9 270 is basically the same performance as an R9 270X, just cheaper. However, the price difference between the two cards at this point in time has me wondering. Also, the GTX 760, in my understanding, is a superior card to both the 270 and 270X, but the reference model is about $80 more than the MSI 2gb gaming edition of the R9 270X I am looking at costs ($180). Besides that, I see that most of the R9 270X's are going for around the same price as the 760, about $260. I am not sure if this pricing on the 270X is due to bitcoins and such or if the card truly is a better performer. Basically, my main question is, are the R9 270X and GTX 760 truly worth the price gap between them and the 270? Also, is the GTX 760 considered a much more powerful card and does it, being an Nvidia card, bring more to the table than the AMD card do themselves? Beyond this, which card manufacturerfor each of the cards would be best. I find myself leaning towards MSI and their gaming edition being a great deal for added performance, but am not 100% sure about that either. Thanks for help from anyone who contributes and I will link the cards that I am currently looking at below as well as leave my expected parts for my build.

MSI R9 270 2GB Gaming: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00GMGGZQE/?tag=pcpapi-20
MSI R9 270X 2GB Gaming: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00FR6XP6I/?tag=pcpapi-20
MSI N760 TF 2GD5/OC (GTX 760): http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00DIH8OW8/?tag=pcpapi-20

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core
Motherboard: Asus M5A97 LE R2.0
Memory: G.Skill F3-14900CL9D-8GBXL (2x4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive-or-Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (my next online question)
Video Card: TBD
Case: Corsair Carbide Series 300R Windowed ATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply
Some of the parts in my build may change slightly, but this is my basic structure


You can get R9 270X for $199, which is pretty sweet deal and it is the initial price that it was at launch, before the miners inflated the prices
Here is the link:
http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=PC-R927XTD&c=C...

Or the Sapphire version

http://www.ncixus.com/products/?usaffiliateid=100003150...

R9 270X vs GTX760 Benchmarks:
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1043?vs=1038
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April 4, 2014 3:29:08 AM

Thanks for that benchmark link, I can't believe I didn't find it while comparing the cards myself. My question to you is, though, do you think that the added power of the MSI version of the R9 270 would exceed that of the powercolor and sapphire edition of the 270X. Sorry, I am only asking this because I have heard a lot of good things about MSI's gaming cards boosting performance and that they were good at overclocking and I am less familiar with powercolor and sapphire.
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April 4, 2014 3:35:25 AM

The Powercolor comes factory overclocked, but the Sapphire one has slightly better cooling. Al of those marketing tricks that you see on the GPU, like Turbo boost or OC MAX or Gaming OC, will give you only 1-2 FPS plus in different games. The problem is why to spend $270 for the MSI R9 270X, while the 199 Sapphire or Powercolor will do the same thing but maybe 1-2 FPS less in some games. $79 for gain of 1-2FPS is not worth it in my opinion.
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April 4, 2014 3:46:19 AM

I definitely see your reasoning behind this, I was only mentioning the R9 270 from MSI (MSI R9 270 2GB Gaming: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00GMGGZQE/?tag=pcpapi-20) as it was a pleasant $180 and I have seen from Linus on YouTube( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sa-H2auvlHs ) that the R9 270 has nearly equal performance to the R9 270X. If you could watch Linus's video briefly for me and give me your opinion on it I would be grateful and also thank you for all of your help so far. Also, do you have personal experience with both of your recommended cards? (Just wondering so I could hear how loud or heated the became from a trusted source)
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April 4, 2014 3:56:43 AM

I watch almost all Linus videos (subscriber). What linus is not telling is that if you overclock R9 270X, R9 270 doesn't stand a chance. Yes overclocked R9 270 is equal to the R9 270X's performance , but if you overclock the R9 270X, than game over for R9 270.
From personal experience, as you can see my signature at bottom right, i use R9 270X. The game i mostly play now is Battlefield 4
Here are some fraps benchmarks that i made with my R9 270X, while playing at 1080p resolution on High Settings without AntiAliasing

Multiplayer benchmark 64 man map

2014-03-10 21:53:19 - bf4
Frames: 43110 - Time: 500812ms - Avg: 86.080 - Min: 52 - Max: 108


Test range

2014-03-21 19:30:33 - bf4
Frames: 7088 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 118.133 - Min: 99 - Max: 142


This is run at stock speed both of the CPU and GPU, nothing was overclocked

Btw, this is my version of R9 270X

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00FW4A5YU/?tag=pcpapi-20
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April 4, 2014 4:06:03 AM

WoW, thanks for all of this so far, it's been eye opening. Also, those frames are impressive (golf clap). I think that you have just about convinced me, but if I can ask you one more thing, which is which manufacturer do you trust more or would you recommend out of the two you provided. I would go with your card if it weren't out of my budget (hmm should I bump my CPU down to a 6300:)  I may just make adjustments to get your version, but, besides yours, which of the two would you recommend and what do you feel is more important, slightly better cooling or a stock overclock.
Would you expect there to be a large performance gap between your Asus R9 270X and one of the two you recommended to me?
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April 4, 2014 4:08:24 AM

Maybe i can help you with the entire build. I didn't understand whether the build that you posted is what you have or what you want in the future. If it is something that you want in the future, just tell me your budget, and i can build you something on PCpartpicker.com
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April 4, 2014 4:11:35 AM

maurelie said:
Maybe i can help you with the entire build. I didn't understand whether the build that you posted is what you have or what you want in the future. If it is something that you want in the future, just tell me your budget, and i can build you something on PCpartpicker.com

PCpartpicker is what I am using to plan my build so if I could somehow allow you to access the parts as well maybe that could work
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April 4, 2014 4:11:37 AM

Sapphire is the leading brand for AMD gpus. They only make AMD gpus.
If you are comfortable OCing and have a good PSU and case cooling, you could consider the 270, as it can reach 270x lvls.
If not, the 270x is a good all around performer at 1080p. At $200 it is a very good price/performance gpu.
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April 4, 2014 4:13:54 AM

Embra said:
Sapphire is the leading brand for AMD gpus. They only make AMD gpus.
If you are comfortable OCing and have a good PSU and case cooling, you could consider the 270, as it can reach 270x lvls.
If not, the 270x is a good all around performer at 1080p. At $200 it is a very good price/performance gpu.

Cool, but is overclocking held back by the motherboard such as the MSI 970A-G46
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April 4, 2014 4:16:28 AM

SamoanSavage824 said:
maurelie said:
Maybe i can help you with the entire build. I didn't understand whether the build that you posted is what you have or what you want in the future. If it is something that you want in the future, just tell me your budget, and i can build you something on PCpartpicker.com

PCpartpicker is what I am using to plan my build so if I could somehow allow you to access the parts as well maybe that could work


I just need your budget numbers, and i will find something for you.
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April 4, 2014 4:18:21 AM

maurelie said:
SamoanSavage824 said:
maurelie said:
Maybe i can help you with the entire build. I didn't understand whether the build that you posted is what you have or what you want in the future. If it is something that you want in the future, just tell me your budget, and i can build you something on PCpartpicker.com

PCpartpicker is what I am using to plan my build so if I could somehow allow you to access the parts as well maybe that could work


I just need your budget numbers, and i will find something for you.


I'd say my budget would be at about $650. Also, I would say that my main areas that could be changed are my motherboard and gpu and if I needed to gain some money somewhere else I might be willing to settle for a 120 GB SSD to start with
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April 4, 2014 4:22:57 AM

I tried to fit 8 core AMD into the budget, but it would past $700 mark, i hope this will serve your needs well

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus M5A97 R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($94.23 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($57.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 270X 2GB Video Card ($199.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Thermaltake Urban 21 BOM ATX Mid Tower Case ($44.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NSB0 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $647.16
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-04 07:22 EDT-0400)
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April 4, 2014 4:28:24 AM

maurelie said:
I tried to fit 8 core AMD into the budget, but it would past $700 mark, i hope this will serve your needs well

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus M5A97 R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($94.23 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($57.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 270X 2GB Video Card ($199.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Thermaltake Urban 21 BOM ATX Mid Tower Case ($44.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NSB0 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $647.16
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-04 07:22 EDT-0400)


Thanks for all of the help you're awesome!!! Also, that build you setup seems great and I was originally going to use the six core anyways, so that build is nearly perfection for me, though I may try to make some quick money to fit that 8-core in there :)  Thanks so much for all of your help!
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April 4, 2014 4:31:29 AM

No problem, glad that i could help.
I would suggest you if you have extra money on the side, better get aftermarket CPU cooler. The stock one that comes with the CPU might be loud on load. For better cooling and overclocking, get the Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo, it is the best air cooler for the money and it will cost you $30. Plus you can overclock you CPU with than cooler much better and cooler than the stock one.
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April 4, 2014 4:34:16 AM

maurelie said:
No problem, glad that i could help.
I would suggest you if you have extra money on the side, better get aftermarket CPU cooler. The stock one that comes with the CPU might be loud on load. For better cooling and overclocking, get the Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo, it is the best air cooler for the money and it will cost you $30. Plus you can overclock you CPU with than cooler much better and cooler than the stock one.


Sounds good to me, I'll make sure to add that to the checklist! (I still have until June as well, so I'm sure I can find some pennies in the couch by then) btw that case is really nice, I've never seen it before but I just fell in love with it :) 
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April 4, 2014 4:39:40 AM

Aw what a bummer, I just read the comment for the case on newegg, but they messed up their picture. The case in the picture is $100. I knew it was to good to be true. Ah well, the case still doesn't look too bad, just like its younger brother
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April 4, 2014 4:39:44 AM

Haha , yeah it is nice and sleek case.
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April 4, 2014 4:47:34 AM

maurelie said:
SamoanSavage824 said:
Aw what a bummer, I just read the comment for the case on newegg, but they messed up their picture. The case in the picture is $100. I knew it was to good to be true. Ah well, the case still doesn't look too bad, just like its younger brother


What about this 2 cases:
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/enermax-case-eca3261b
or
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/thermaltake-case-vp300a1w2...


Those two are nice as well. I can't thank you enough for all the help you've given me. Thank you so much, hopefully we talk again.
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April 4, 2014 4:49:09 AM

Send me a private massage any time you want, if you have some other issues or problems about the build. See ya.
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April 4, 2014 4:51:08 AM

maurelie said:
Send me a private massage any time you want, if you have some other issues or problems about the build. See ya.


For sure, see ya
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April 4, 2014 5:43:30 AM

Just read the chain and wanted to say what a great build has been put together for you. I built almost the identical setup 2 months ago (went with a cheaper gigabyte MB) and its Lovely!! The FX6300 is a great value CPU, I went with he MSI R9 270X because on the day I purchased the price was low for some reason, its now gone up by another £25!

So far I have been chucking all my games at this and its really not had any problem at all! Metro Last light looks great and runs smooth (I had to run Psyix X off). Skyrim, Far cry 3, all in glorious HD on my TV. Going to give TESO a go this weekend :)  the only thing I want to do is get a new cooler, so will take the advice given and be going for the 212 Evo next month. Although stock isn't as noisy as I thought it would be, The MSI R9 270X runs really quiet, you can overclock with the app provided (how easy!) or run in gaming mode which adds a slight OC and the noise level is still pretty nice or run in Quiet mode and have silence!

Sapphire Cards are great though and would have been my first choice had I not got this MSI so cheap on the day (from Amazon prime), the price fluctuations are nuts!

Fx 6300 with 8GB DDR3 and a R9 270X is just a Great budget gaming build. Good choice!

Report back in June once you have built it :) 
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July 1, 2014 9:23:57 AM

You choosed the nest solution but i believe the r 270 non x would have done the same job . R9 270x =r9 270+ OC. The have the same config 1280:80:32. Anyways Good Gaming
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