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I got one hit on previous thread asking for a desktop build in the 500-600$ range that will be able to play skyrim and games like wow and elder scrolls online. In addition to this request I would like the ability to upgrade this system in the future, I.e. upgradable motherboard ect. This is the only build I was given before. Any other help appreciated. Thanks.

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CPU: Intel Core i3-4130 3.4GHz Dual-Core Processor ($118.93 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI H81M-P33 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($48.98 @ OutletPC)
Memory: GeIL EVO Veloce Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($62.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Hitachi Ultrastar 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($52.00 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 270 2GB Video Card ($179.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($50.99 @ TigerDirect)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $558.86
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-03-29 23:19 EDT-0400)

This would max out skyrim with mods and mild enbs.
 
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I mean this is what you could do.

A) Start with a GTX 760 ( $223)
upgrade: a GTX 780 ( $490)

or B) Start with a GTX 760( $223)
upgrade: another GTX 760 ( $223)

The GTX 760sli( two of the same card) is stronger than a single...
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i got the same mobo and procie for my budget gaming rig. the difference is my memory only 4GB, 500GB of storage, 500Watt 80+ Bronze PSU, and a R9-270X. It can do skyrim nicely with mods and enbs, but I haven't tried ultraHD mods yet.
 
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Here's a much better and future proof option for only 594$
This computer won't have any problems maxing out Skyrim or most games coming out in the future.

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CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor ($151.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus M5A97 LE R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($72.98 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($63.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 270 2GB Video Card ($179.99 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $593.91
 
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No such thing as 'future proof' when it comes to pc's. The AMD FX series is up to 9xxx so there's a good chance that's the end of FX line, good chance its the end of the line for AM3+ boards too, although knowing AMD, they'll make a new line that uses AM3+ boards.
Somethings in my build are upgradeable, others the cost difference was so small, went for the better stuff that won't need upgrading by the day after tomorrow.

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CPU: Intel Core i3-4130 3.4GHz Dual-Core Processor ($118.93 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Extreme3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($109.99 @ Micro Center)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($63.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB Video Card ($169.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Source 220 ATX Mid Tower Case ($44.99 @ TigerDirect)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $607.85
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-04 22:32 EDT-0400)

There are sales in this build so choose quick, you may loose the prices and promo's.
 
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Not bad, but there are a few problems in that build. I wouldn't get a Corsair CX PSU due to their poor reliability and also that graphic card is known to go to extremely high temperatures.
 
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No such thing as 'future proof' when it comes to pc's
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Yes there is, sort of.
When building a PC i always go for the best performance at the lowest price.
This way, i don't have to upgrade anything for at least 2-3 years.
And that's exactly what I've done here.

Realistically speaking, most games won't be using 8 cores and more than a R9 270 of worth power in 2 years.
Example, my GTX 460 still performs decently today after 4 years but, it's definitely time for an upgrade.
 
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ok, darkritual, the mobo you chose.. best performance? no even close. The LE is about the worst OC board version Asus makes. There are no heatsinks on the VRM's so stability with any real attempt at making a really good cpu better are slim at best.

Skyrim is an Intel dream, its pretty much single threaded, and AMD suffers in that game, by a large margin. If you don't OC an AMD CPU for all its worth the Skyrim is just going to suck. You could take an i3-3220 and still do better than an FX-8320 in Skyrim.. and that's not even talkin mods.

As for games? who knows. With the Maxwell gpu's hitting soon, GTX 9 series etc, there is bound to be games written to take advantage of that architecture, and who knows what AMD is workin on with their partners, COD 5, WoW expansions etc. Its really a crap shoot as to whats going to happen day after tomorrow, which is why there is no future proofing as such, more like future 'faith' that what you have will work well with what just hit the shelves.
 
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ok, darkritual, the mobo you chose.. best performance? no even close. The LE is about the worst OC board version Asus makes. There are no heatsinks on the VRM's so stability with any real attempt at making a really good cpu better are slim at best.
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Of course the mobo sucks, we're on a 600$ budget here, I'm no miracle worker.
Beside, cutting corners anywhere else would have decreased the overall performance significantly.

OP never talked about overclocking either otherwise, i would've chosen a decent CPU cooler instead of going for the stock one.

Skyrim is an Intel dream, its pretty much single threaded, and AMD suffers in that game, by a large margin. If you don't OC an AMD CPU for all its worth the Skyrim is just going to suck. You could take an i3-3220 and still do better than an FX-8320 in Skyrim.. and that's not even talkin mods.
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You're right but, do you honestly believe an i3-3220 has ANY long term value?
I think not, in fact, buying an i3 would be a complete waste of money.

If my out of date PC running an Athlon II X4 640 can play Skyrim at 1680x1050 maxed, there's no way this one won't be able to overkill it.

As for games? who knows. With the Maxwell gpu's hitting soon, GTX 9 series etc, there is bound to be games written to take advantage of that architecture, and who knows what AMD is workin on with their partners, COD 5, WoW expansions etc. Its really a crap shoot as to whats going to happen day after tomorrow, which is why there is no future proofing as such, more like future 'faith' that what you have will work well with what just hit the shelves.
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It's more of an educated guess, most big titles are optimized for consoles which brings down the requirements significantly.

Also, games in general are optimized so your average john doe with a best buy PC can play it so obviously, there won't be much change in the gaming world anytime soon.



 
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Karadjgne is there any changes you might make based off of comments made by RazorZ? Is there a graphics card you would recommend differently? Thanks all for the responses. RazorZ did you have anything else to add?
 
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Well the price point 609$ is really right around where I wanna stay unless someone makes a compelling argument where spending slightly more will make a drastic difference. Having said thati have never OC'd anything, but would have no problem doing so if I found the information on how and if my gear could handle it. I don't have the finances for (crossfire?) Two GPU. And I'm not sure what you mean by replacing gpu, nothing has been purchased as of yet so I'm open to suggestions. Thanks again.
 
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I mean this is what you could do.

A) Start with a GTX 760 ( $223)
upgrade: a GTX 780 ( $490)

or B) Start with a GTX 760( $223)
upgrade: another GTX 760 ( $223)

The GTX 760sli( two of the same card) is stronger than a single GTX 780.
 
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I went with the cx because it works, its also something I figured would be upgraded later to maybe a good 650w, enough to power a 770, 4670k etc. The mobo I went better with because the 4130 can be upgraded to a 4670k with no additional expense for a new mobo. The gpu rates somewhere between a 270x and a 280 and for the price was the best card possible without sacrificing performance. The build was thought upwith future upgrades in mind, that won't break the bank replacing stuff. The ram won't require upgrade neither will the HDD.
 
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